tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post2753101746013413583..comments2024-03-28T06:53:10.383+00:00Comments on MinerBumping.com: A Jester of All Trades, Part 1MinerBumpinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16932737268774492206noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-9555544139154086772013-05-01T18:26:15.825+00:002013-05-01T18:26:15.825+00:00Actually EVEkill doesn't show the kills in a h...Actually EVEkill doesn't show the kills in a handy single list, so here's the Battleclinic link: <br /><br />http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Vonn+Gauser<br /><br />Thanks for bringing me back to good memories!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-39406850907146923182013-05-01T15:36:50.634+00:002013-05-01T15:36:50.634+00:00You're free to do believe what you want, but I...You're free to do believe what you want, but I pointed out with logic why the results don't tell what you want them to tell. I would appreciate If you could counter my points with logic if you believe they're wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-44618368152383536572013-05-01T15:33:37.509+00:002013-05-01T15:33:37.509+00:00Alana,
yes i did play EVE in 2009 for a year (bu...Alana, <br /><br />yes i did play EVE in 2009 for a year (but i played just a few days per month). After making some ISK with missions I started doing what I originally intended to do, solo low sec piracy. I learned to fit a rifter, scan and ambush. <br /><br />I had one of the best MMO experiences I ever had when I for example managed to take down a couple brutix with my single rifter (not at the same time!), or when during a duel with another rifter the other guy called backup and i ended up being against two rifters. After popping the first one, i started orbiting the second without much hope (I was in low armour). But I realized I had a "secret weapon": i was in a passive armour fit, with a neut. I neuted him enough to deplete his cap, so his scrambler went off and i managed to warp away with my rifter with just some crumbles of hull left. I never had an adrenaline rush like that in a game, ever.<br /><br />But in the end, i quit. I was not satisfied with low sec: before joining I thought i could be a miner and transports ambushing pirate, extracting ransoms and living the "criminal" life. But i found out that low sec was very empty, and inhabited by pirates and ratters only. I had fun, but to get that fun i had to scan for hours, often with no result. It was also my fault though, as I wanted to be a solo hunter and I never joined a corp, but as I told you I had just a few days a month to play and I thought I didn't have time enough to commit to a corp, and low sec was a disappointment anyway.<br /><br />But I never lost contact with EVE: the idea behind it was simply the game of my dreams, even if in practice it doesn't always work like you would expect. In the following years I had various real life situations that prevented me to commit to a MMORPG anymore, but I periodically checked for updates and read the forums. <br /><br />And then, I read James' manifesto about highsec miners. It was the greatest EVE-related read I ever seen. Weel written, very long but not unnecessarily so, to the point and fearless. It made a lot of sense, and when I finished I officialy was a James 315 fan. If the game followed James 315' direction, it would be the game of my dreams, with the low sec I imagined I would have found when I first started reading about the game in 2009.<br /><br />So I kept checking the forums like always, following with particular interest James. I then read his post about bumping in Halaima and from there Miner Bumping. Since then, I check the blog daily: it's intelligent, engaging, informative, ironic and very fun, wirtten with knowledge and mastery. I desired to be a part of it. Therefore, I started to feel like playing EVE again. As i previously said, I don't have a decent internet connection at the moment and I have also little free time due to study, but I hope I will be able to join the game for a new beginning soon (I like to start from scratch when I re-join MMORPGs, It's irrational but that's what I like).<br /><br />So this is my story, I hope you enjoyed it. If you want to check the Brutixes, here's my killboard (check april and march): http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_ext_id=257415253Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-27000916521139272902013-05-01T08:01:49.766+00:002013-05-01T08:01:49.766+00:00You can argue minerbumping had little influence if...You can argue minerbumping had little influence if you like - to me the results speak for themselves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-35378240518377647912013-05-01T04:58:24.516+00:002013-05-01T04:58:24.516+00:00Anon @ 7:05 pm,
Did you previously play EVE, or h...Anon @ 7:05 pm,<br /><br />Did you previously play EVE, or have you never played before? Your earlier comment/analysis suggests you've played in the past. I'm always curious how players who don't play EVE manage to stumble across minerbumping.com.Alana Charen-Tenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12744322643950613859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-50956003390807019902013-04-30T19:15:02.620+00:002013-04-30T19:15:02.620+00:00From empirical evidence, the minerbumping.com prot...From empirical evidence, the minerbumping.com protocol dictates that anyone in agreement with someone else must be accused of being the same person. So, without further a do...<br /><br />Alana, why are you conversing with yourself? Is it because no-one else listens to you? Don't worry sweety, I'm sure someone loves you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-64560295026332464462013-04-30T19:05:06.462+00:002013-04-30T19:05:06.462+00:00Thank you Alana, I'm not native english and I&...Thank you Alana, I'm not native english and I'm sure there are mistakes here and there so I'm even more honoured by your appreciation. I'm not a member of the New Order as I'm not playing EVE but I'm following it with passion. I plan to get in game out of inspiration from the Order, I just need to get a decent internet connection and create an account (hopefully this month). Players like you are the best publicity this game could ever get.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-74480357918534895582013-04-30T18:32:35.381+00:002013-04-30T18:32:35.381+00:00*applauds Anon @ 4:05 PM"
That was a work of...*applauds Anon @ 4:05 PM"<br /><br />That was a work of art.Alana Charen-Tenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12744322643950613859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-54738620029232733172013-04-30T16:05:37.477+00:002013-04-30T16:05:37.477+00:00I highly doubt your conclusions. Without James 315...I highly doubt your conclusions. Without James 315 as a candidate, you can't really judge his popularity among EVE players. An endorsment is very different from a candidacy, and the name Psychotic Monk is far less recognizable.<br /><br />You seem to conclude that this blog negatively influenced the vote by looking at the results, but you can't ignore that even before Miner Bumping Ripard Teg was a very popular blogger and Psychotic Monk an independent with no backing. The result we got was exactly what you would have guessed without taking James 315 in consideration: many votes from Jester Trek fans, few votes for an independent player. <br /><br />What you could say then is that Miner Bumping didn't influenced much the vote. You have no real data to state that endorsing it is damaging.<br /><br />If you want to judge James 315 and this blog objectively, you should do it with real data. How many visits the blog gets, how many comments, how many tears like the rude comment up here, how many players join or rejoin EVE just because finally they have something fun and emergent to do in game. In the comments you will find many new or almost new players that instead of quitting because of boredom, joined the New Order and found out what's so good about EVE: interaction and emergent gameplay.<br /><br />Judge James 315 and the New Order by what they're doing in game, and you will find that no honest EVE player can deny that this creation is an extraordinary thing made by extraordinary players, one of those things that you can tell to your friends to explain why EVE is so special and unique.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-15920665991221212892013-04-30T12:25:48.700+00:002013-04-30T12:25:48.700+00:00Indeed. Whatever James 315 touches does seem to tu...Indeed. Whatever James 315 touches does seem to turn to shit. Trouble is, I've heard he likes to touch a lot of his followers in very strange ways. The poor shit bags.Credible Crispnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-50469003328627268812013-04-30T11:44:01.350+00:002013-04-30T11:44:01.350+00:00It says a lot for James 315 real influence that th...It says a lot for James 315 real influence that the candidate that he most opposed, Ripard Teg, and wrote several articles to undermine, topped the polls.<br /><br />In fact I am sure these articles boosted his support. Just as his support for Psychotic Monk was the kiss of death.<br /><br />Ironically Psychotic Monk was recommended by Jester's Trek as well as the null sec block vote. I can only speak personally and say that prior to Psychotic Monk joining minerbumping he would have been high on my list probably #3. Indeed he was even seen haranging New Order and stating he only did real pvp and didn't gank miners. <br /><br />Lesson here supporting minerbumping and getting their support can be seriously damaging to your objectives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-33775274198999596932013-03-10T00:17:21.424+00:002013-03-10T00:17:21.424+00:00right now James's biggest problem is that he d...right now James's biggest problem is that he doesn't understand how the CSM position actually works.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-2164860892435403422013-03-09T08:47:11.074+00:002013-03-09T08:47:11.074+00:00So many people complain about the terrible injusti...So many people complain about the terrible injustices James has done upon them, its really a sheer joy to read!<br />All the people at their keyboards...not just miners, but everyone, voices ringing aloud with keystroked opinion. Somehow unaware that theyve already become the solution that James has made it his duty to solve!<br />NOONE is in favor of bot use, for mining, for market advantage....any and all botting seems to be one issue that the complete eve base isnt fond of. So bot miners get blown up....GREAT! So people who can do math know exactly how many minutes after they press their mining button until they need to come back to the computer and fly to station for unloading. This is what is considered "bot aspirant". Theres no PLAYING involved...push a button and leave...give me a break. <br />How would you consider that "PLAYING" this great game, full of so much human to human interaction possibilites?<br /><br />Now how is it that these same people cant understand how 10 million isk will prevent with nearly 100% certainty the loss of 100s of millions of isk in ship and pod loss?<br />In the end, smart people act stupidly because they dont want someone else to tell them what to do. The same people who join a corp because they need someone with an orca to sit nearby and provide them with extra isk, free of charge through mining bonuses... "Pay to mine, or get blown up...Hell No i wont pay, come blow me up if you think you can" BOOM! that takes care of that.<br />Quite a double standard the way i see it.<br /><br />I am, by definition, a carebear. I mish, i play on the market, i bump but have never ganked. Try to stay in highsec to keep my ass from getting shot off regularly!<br />I try to make enough to buy a plex every 30 days. So dont think im some hardened vet, ready to pewpew at a moments notice with a hangar full of billion dollar ships, cause im not.<br />When i found minerbumping, i thought it was great that someone would dedicate his time, not just killing indiscriminately, but to righting what he felt was a wrong.<br />I dont care what claims are made about whos "behind" James, i stand BESIDE! him in his efforts! <br /><br />Hes got my CSM 8 vote!Rennseslearnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-46348710099912957162013-03-08T22:00:16.956+00:002013-03-08T22:00:16.956+00:00Anon 11:04, maybe you could suggest that to CCP in...Anon 11:04, maybe you could suggest that to CCP in the DUST Forum if you haven't already. Now that is an idea I would get behind.<br /><br />---Alistair DrakeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-64453195152986990512013-03-08T21:51:15.644+00:002013-03-08T21:51:15.644+00:00Just gonna leave this here Dank. It's what you...Just gonna leave this here Dank. It's what you wrote...<br /><br />"In Eve if you find yourself in a fair fight, you've done something wrong."dominonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-54216328103958889782013-03-08T19:09:03.385+00:002013-03-08T19:09:03.385+00:00Wow way to guess way off the mark. Actually most ...Wow way to guess way off the mark. Actually most of my pvp carear was small roaming corps that usually fought outnumbered. The quote came from my first FC in an alliance war back in 2004. When you actually wanted to win the war and not get 'goodfites' or whatever you kids are calling it.<br />So yeah *facepalm* at what people are playing Eve this day. Also, way to make baseless assumptions. I would actually call myself more of an industrialist building stuff these days than a blobber. Keep on failing dude.Danksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-72839846812100297282013-03-08T18:28:47.379+00:002013-03-08T18:28:47.379+00:00*facepalm*
Thankfully there are still people like ...*facepalm*<br />Thankfully there are still people like me in the game who like to use skill, knowledge and reflexes to win fights where the initial odds aren't good. Unfortunately James wants to make EvE into one step above a themepark where people like you Danks, go around blobbing PVE'ers. I really hope CCP resists the urges of the unskilled blobbers like you & James and avoid dumbing the game down to PvP'ers vs PvE'ers.<br />dominonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-36155478330985563252013-03-08T17:16:05.713+00:002013-03-08T17:16:05.713+00:00I left EVE for awhile due to personal reasons. In...I left EVE for awhile due to personal reasons. In early 2010, I returned, and the game had changed.<br /><br />I started flying to highsec moons, scouting a location for a control tower. They were all taken.<br /><br />I went to an asteroid belt to mine. It was empty. So was the next belt I visited.<br /><br />Highsec had never had so many people in it. It wasn't quiet anymore. It wasn't cold anymore. It wasn't dark anymore. It didn't even feel dangerous anymore. Something had happened. Highsec had changed. People treated highsec as a place where they could live free of any risk at all. I couldn't handle it. If I wanted to carebear around in a game without the human element of risk weighing on me, I'd play a singleplayer game. <br /><br /><br />Carebearing wasn't risky anymore. Carebearing wasn't fun anymore. My character had 36 million SP, a billion isk in the wallet and that much more in assets, and extremely high faction standings when I biomassed him.<br /><br />I've kept an eye on EVE ever since. I've always wondered if it'd become what it used to be -- an MMO where even the most risk-free activities were still not risk-free. I was not encouraged to return to EVE when I heard about the CONCORD and miner buffs; I was not encouraged to return to EVE when can flipping was driven into permanent extinction. But this blog, and James 315's campaign -- his effort to reform EVE in the face of an army of carebears who have grown even more disgusting and shrill since my departure from EVE -- convinced me that maybe, just maybe, there's a little bit of hope for carebears like me.<br /><br />If I just wanted to mine, manufacture, and grow fat without any risk, I'd play X3: Terran Conflict, abandoning the human element altogether. I want EVE to be something better. Having seen what James 315's accomplished in the past, I have hope for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-71158059047503379732013-03-08T17:15:40.891+00:002013-03-08T17:15:40.891+00:00Okay, I posted the comment at 0431. I should spea...Okay, I posted the comment at 0431. I should speak up about my position here.<br /><br />I'm a dyed-in-the-wool carebear. I've done roaming PVP and didn't like it; I've done nullsec fleet ops and didn't like them. I've played EVE for awhile and found that I like the game best when I'm doing carebearish activities -- I sorta like mining; I somewhat like missioning if I'm doing it with a goal in mind other than more missioning; I really like manufacturing. In the past, I did quite a bit of nullsec mining -- in the days before the updated sovereignty system, mind you, so the only mining to be done was in asteroid belts. I couldn't mine AFK, because the territory was prone to invaders, and if a hostile showed up in local, he could always be counted on to head straight for the asteroid belts in search of miners and ratters. The moment an unknown appeared in local, I'd warp back to station, dock, and notify my alliance while hoping the invader wouldn't destroy my jetcans. It was tense; it was dangerous; it was fun.<br /><br />I also did some mining in highsec. Barges had smaller cargoholds back then, and of the exhumers, only Hulks could extract any reasonable amount of ore. Jetcan mining -- in which a miner jettisoned his ore for pickup by a corpmate or alt. Risks included suicide gankers (who, unlike the New Order, ganked miners exclusively for loot and tears) and can flippers, who often worked in teams to steal miners' ore. Orcas did not exist. Mining AFK for any period of time was not possible, unless you fitted a mining laser to an Iteron or something and stayed logged in all night. It was a tense job, requiring a lot of attention to the game, a lot of awareness of my surroundings -- and it was fun.<br /><br />I even set up a control tower, once I had the standings to do so. I did research and manufacturing in my cozy little highsec starbase, utilizing my considerable Industry skills to make T2 ammunition and equipment, and turned an impressive profit. But I knew that it wasn't risk-free: any day of the week, somebody could wardec me and begin sieging my factory starbase 24 hours later, seeking to prey on the expensive blueprints and supplies stored there. It was a fact of life. So I anchored my tower in a stationless highsec system, erected defenses (at the cost of some profitability), and checked up on my starbase at least once every 24 hours; I was perpetually ready to tear down my control tower and evacuate all my assets to the safety of a station. It was highly profitable and required somewhat less effort than other types of carebearing, but it was still risky -- and because of that, it was fun.<br /><br />(continued in next comment)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-86106585662429342042013-03-08T17:11:17.913+00:002013-03-08T17:11:17.913+00:00You must be new to Eve, that's one of the firs...You must be new to Eve, that's one of the first things I was taught. RvB is all well and good but the rest of Eve doesn't live by those rules.<br />Makes me sad people don't get that about Eve.Danksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-33117908354766824292013-03-08T16:35:36.897+00:002013-03-08T16:35:36.897+00:00No you didn't resubscribe, you were already su...No you didn't resubscribe, you were already subbed. This is obviously ganker rhetoric. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-52926453313902243422013-03-08T16:31:27.247+00:002013-03-08T16:31:27.247+00:00@Agent Trask: The carebear tears win you more vote...@Agent Trask: The carebear tears win you more votes anyway. I resubscribed to vote James 315 after reading the comments on this blog for awhile; the highsec miner tears are just too delicious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-48293187582944125022013-03-08T16:06:27.707+00:002013-03-08T16:06:27.707+00:00Oh. My. God. I can't believe what you just wro...Oh. My. God. I can't believe what you just wrote Danks. I think you'll find RvB is mostly about "fair fights" (though not always). I hadn't realised all of the RvB pilots plus many thousands of others were all "doing something wrong". You are more proof of what I think James would end up doing. Makes me sad.dominonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-10410648618500019292013-03-08T15:54:18.617+00:002013-03-08T15:54:18.617+00:00As I commented here before: James315's followe...As I commented here before: James315's followers do more damage to his campaign then his own positions.<br />-BantaraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-52604289844090129812013-03-08T15:49:09.757+00:002013-03-08T15:49:09.757+00:00It'a a far better argument than those who simp...It'a a far better argument than those who simply *have* to pretend that anyone not voting for J315 is a high-sec miner. Kinda sad that most 315 supporters only have the ability to see things as black or white. Says something about their mental aptitude. FOAD!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com