tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post3377522273743942465..comments2024-03-28T06:53:10.383+00:00Comments on MinerBumping.com: One Side to Every StoryMinerBumpinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16932737268774492206noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-49697115963644221722014-02-06T21:57:27.511+00:002014-02-06T21:57:27.511+00:00Step 1: Miner decides to fly a tanked up proc so t...Step 1: Miner decides to fly a tanked up proc so they can mine in peace.<br /><br />Step 2: Miner realizes all the rets and macks around him are mining faster than him, and that without gankers, those rets and macks are "beating" him, while botting and/or afk.<br /><br />Step 3: Miner realizes that gankers, who prey on these macks and rets, are now benefiting him, as a procurer miner.<br /><br />Step 4: Miner is converted to loyal New Order Miner.<br /><br />Obviously, each of these steps requires a modicum of thought, so they may take quite a long time for some miners, but the point is clear: shipping into a procurer is the first step to becoming a loyal New Order supporter. These rebels who advocate for all miners to jump into procurers are benefiting the New Order hugely.Procurer Tutornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-55148944314342343342014-02-06T20:15:02.824+00:002014-02-06T20:15:02.824+00:00Tasty delicious tears, Capsti was my best :DTasty delicious tears, Capsti was my best :DDon Purplenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-86920889207982827122014-02-06T16:55:55.598+00:002014-02-06T16:55:55.598+00:00I love liberty! Whenever she's in local it mak...I love liberty! Whenever she's in local it makes waiting for the GCC to run out seem so much faster when engaging in conversation with her!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-15805968372848288902014-02-06T16:27:52.435+00:002014-02-06T16:27:52.435+00:00This doesn't surprise me. Entitled rebs/carebe...This doesn't surprise me. Entitled rebs/carebears need some sort of a victory, so they go with something we've been talking about.. since.. they came out and they declare the skiffs/procs are ungankable.. which they're not, but we know that. I like how you told people to use them, I did as often as I could, but like you said the cargo hold (ore hold) was never big enough for them.<br /><br />And like what John was saying, any miner in a proc, but especially a skiff, is doing it right and is a victory for the New Order. Capt Starfoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07296278896949865271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-33902217154597831032014-02-06T15:42:17.759+00:002014-02-06T15:42:17.759+00:00Skiffs and even Procurers can be ganked economical...Skiffs and even Procurers can be ganked economically. The highest bang:buck for ganking are Catalysts that cost about 1.6m and achieve 400 DPS. It takes five to kill a moderately tanked Procurer. The problem is just that it takes a lot of gankers, and it takes valuable gank-time that can be applied elsewhere, and usually for much more effect.<br /><br />Make no mistake, though. All miners are vulnerable to economic gank. If every bot-aspirant miner started flying a Procurer tomorrow, the NO would still gank them. Gladius Codicishttp://www.minerbumping.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-66702460399835459182014-02-06T14:15:59.996+00:002014-02-06T14:15:59.996+00:00I like how suddenly this is news that procs/skiffs...I like how suddenly this is news that procs/skiffs are rarely ganked by us. Heck, you can find forum posts by me telling new players to buy procs. But hardly anyone does because you can't hardly even make a sammich before the things are full. You actually have to play the game. Much sad, no AFK.Malcolm Shinhwanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-34495933923579333662014-02-06T14:07:17.996+00:002014-02-06T14:07:17.996+00:00@anon 1:42
http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail...@anon 1:42<br /><br />http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=8504<br /><br />CODE. lost over 1000 ships in January 2014 alone, and almost 9000 ships since Jan 2013...and those are just losses where a player is involved. Losses inflicted only by Concord do not generate eve-kill lossmails, Total gank ships lost is well over 10,000 and could be double, when you count multiship ganks and failed ganks. How do you think we've killed over 19,000 ship, but "only" have 9000 losses, when we die every gank? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-9548698640098823982014-02-06T11:34:37.278+00:002014-02-06T11:34:37.278+00:00Sacrificing yield for tank and flying a Skiff is a...Sacrificing yield for tank and flying a Skiff is a victory for the New Order. Seeing Skiffs in the belts always makes me happy. <br /><br />gfAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12934232460933897444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-4996579650817652432014-02-06T09:33:01.398+00:002014-02-06T09:33:01.398+00:00did someone say skiffs are not gankable?
http://ev...did someone say skiffs are not gankable?<br />http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21071746<br />and the follow up pod<br />http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21071745Capsti Basherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18385379590913129424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-22489950126456959312014-02-06T04:42:35.116+00:002014-02-06T04:42:35.116+00:00A procurer with a meta tank costs ~20mil ISK. Fac...A procurer with a meta tank costs ~20mil ISK. Factor in insurance payout and a player can be expected to lose ~10million ISK when ganked. A ganker, assuming he retrievs his dropped mods loses 5mil per ship. At best, a ganker can deal roughly 15k damage before dying in a 0.5 system with a CONCORD prepull. Even a crap skilled pilot can boast well in excess of 50kEHP (up to 70k with good skills). This means that the 4 gankers required to down a procurer will cost 20million ISK in best case scenario. 20mil ISK loss for gankers, 10mil ISK loss for procurer pilot.<br /><br />At best.<br /><br />Who's complaining that miners don't have enough defense?Ekkentros Mercarihttps://gate.eveonline.com//Profile/Ekkentros%20Mercarinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-24892558839335916342014-02-06T02:41:12.186+00:002014-02-06T02:41:12.186+00:00dont forget to activate orbiting at 500-1500m arou...dont forget to activate orbiting at 500-1500m around asteroid you will have pure protection vs. bumping,too.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-24346582945087758472014-02-06T02:38:41.979+00:002014-02-06T02:38:41.979+00:00So thanks for spread the worth:
Procurer / Skiff ...So thanks for spread the worth:<br /><br />Procurer / Skiff is not gankable<br /><br />For every one that want to go afk/bot:<br /><br />USE a Procurer / Skiff and you´ll be 150% safe<br />(you may be 15min. afk until you have to dock or call hauler)<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-68482456054380152552014-02-06T02:21:54.354+00:002014-02-06T02:21:54.354+00:001. If everyone flew a procurer/skiff to mine, then...1. If everyone flew a procurer/skiff to mine, then X.<br /><br />Counterarguments<br />A. Implausible, will never happen, so X is irrelevant.<br />B. Even if it did happen, the response would just be CCP nerfing skiffs/procurers, and the New Order moving on to the next easiest bot-aspirant target, changing tactics, etc.<br />C. Going afk in a procurer/skiff is pointless, small cargo hold makes it unuseful.You seem to have forgottennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-15171947891441844512014-02-06T02:12:15.662+00:002014-02-06T02:12:15.662+00:00Please please please:
Post a high sec Procurer / ...Please please please:<br /><br />Post a high sec Procurer / Skiff gank (no suspect bait)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-91772612406442197782014-02-06T02:10:36.548+00:002014-02-06T02:10:36.548+00:00Really strange isnt it?
No Procurer / Skiffs are ...Really strange isnt it?<br /><br />No Procurer / Skiffs are ganked!<br /><br />Everyone can use them : Theres no gank possible!<br /><br />NO TARGETS = NO ORDERAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-43707356543322514072014-02-06T02:07:25.274+00:002014-02-06T02:07:25.274+00:00You can't be serious.. :/
All donated isk is ...You can't be serious.. :/<br /><br />All donated isk is distributed to members of the New Order for the ships mentioned above (minus the Titans). <br /><br />"...Why? Because I am a river to my people!"<br /><br />You carebears really need to learn how to read and pay attention better. Capt Starfoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07296278896949865271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-47220926858171338022014-02-06T01:42:39.563+00:002014-02-06T01:42:39.563+00:00the Order has 200bill or doesnt the Order has 200b...the Order has 200bill or doesnt the Order has 200bill?<br /><br />What are you doing with the 200bill?<br /><br />A catalyst T2 fit cost approx. 11-15mill (Jita / Rens / Ammar price).<br /><br />A Thrasher T1 (gank) fit fit cost approx. 11-15mill (Jita / Rens / Ammar price)<br /><br />200bill / 2 = 100bill . 100bill / 15mill = 13333 Thrashers & Catalyst.<br /><br />There are maybe 200 active gankers so 66 Thrasher & Catalysts for every member. Isnt that enough?<br /><br />Or diid James 315 spendt all the ISK for Plex and new Titans?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-56902384208512559842014-02-06T01:33:04.268+00:002014-02-06T01:33:04.268+00:00It's perfectly economically viable to gank pro...It's perfectly economically viable to gank procurers and skiffs. Consider the income in tears that you loot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-63534045242039193772014-02-06T01:30:32.714+00:002014-02-06T01:30:32.714+00:00i thought the Order is so rich 200bill?
so why th...i thought the Order is so rich 200bill?<br /><br />so why the hell it isnt possible?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-47143840429152216802014-02-06T01:28:35.249+00:002014-02-06T01:28:35.249+00:00so it is not economically
How much does it cost g...so it is not economically<br /><br />How much does it cost gank one Procurer?<br /><br />(i doesnt know it)<br /><br />But a Procurer fit T2 cost 20-25millAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-80894652180656447332014-02-06T01:25:21.662+00:002014-02-06T01:25:21.662+00:00I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Procs a...I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Procs and Skiffs get ganked. It just isn't economically viable, for the most part.<br />But they DO get ganked.<br /><br />---Mike AdoulinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-54561697322064841842014-02-06T01:09:46.843+00:002014-02-06T01:09:46.843+00:00Its so simply to stop Ganking / Bumping in high se...Its so simply to stop Ganking / Bumping in high sec:<br /><br />Use a Procurer / Skiff activate Orbiting at your Asteroid / Ice at range 500-1500m<br /><br />You will never see a gank or bump and you can go afk/bot all the time.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-39865924387454076312014-02-06T00:59:42.273+00:002014-02-06T00:59:42.273+00:00Thanks for the Cliff's notes on that one James...Thanks for the Cliff's notes on that one James. I usually decry people that say 'wall of text, tldr'. But after the first block of useless runnon crap, there was no way I was sifting through the rest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-39345998834794844482014-02-06T00:42:30.915+00:002014-02-06T00:42:30.915+00:00Its so simple to stop a wardec. In 3 steps:
1. Cl...Its so simple to stop a wardec. In 3 steps:<br /><br />1. Close Alliance, Close Corp.<br /><br />2.Create a new Corp in 5 minutes, cost 5 mill. Invite the former members(5-10minutes)<br /><br />3. New wardec? No problem. Go to step 1 (wardeck cost 50mill, can be done every 10minutes)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-85491599542049699072014-02-05T23:45:18.419+00:002014-02-05T23:45:18.419+00:00Liberty could probably give War & Peace a run ...Liberty could probably give War & Peace a run for it's money on sheer volume...<br /><br />Also; "because clicking the mouse a couple times an hour is so difficult."<br /><br />Classic James 315 right there.<br /><br />- Guybertini<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com