tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post411714935329593172..comments2024-03-29T09:31:29.226+00:00Comments on MinerBumping.com: Highsec Nightmare, Part 2MinerBumpinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16932737268774492206noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-37928800860835781182014-03-19T05:23:00.153+00:002014-03-19T05:23:00.153+00:00I genuinely find this TDD guys' writing extrem...I genuinely find this TDD guys' writing extremely difficult to read. "Disloyal and piety..." Huh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-37579797090080911352014-03-10T23:22:05.171+00:002014-03-10T23:22:05.171+00:00I think you forget that pirates in null and low ha...I think you forget that pirates in null and low have had players whose ships they held hostage go onto Team Speak or EVE Voice and sing songs. And let's not forget permission was given by both parties for things to be recorded.<br /><br />Plus I think you are in the wrong comments section, it would be more relevant to the content of the post if you had posted in Jetliner Bumping Parts 1-4, where Erotica actually makes an appearance. Also remember that people are always involved unless AFK no matter what the activity, as it requires a person be behind the character to make them do anything.<br /><br />And above all else, this is a game in a FICTIONAL universe, so it is not a requirement to act like you would in real life.Alistair Drakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-32189324885740730072014-03-10T22:24:58.978+00:002014-03-10T22:24:58.978+00:00But, Erotica 1 goes into real life (Team Speak) to...But, Erotica 1 goes into real life (Team Speak) to humiliate people for ISK. That obviously crosses the line between fiction and reality. How can anyone possibly say that encouraging someone to join a TS server and humiliate themselves is fiction? I think things like that are what completely undermine "The Code" and invalidate this interesting meta-game that James 315 is creating. He may not participate in it but simply by posting about it in explicit detail I learned a lot about him and Erotica 1. He's ok with her behavior, and she's one of those people who is excellent at getting people to punch themselves in the face. I don't believe in Evil, but she's about as close as you get in real life.<br /><br />The line between fiction and reality is crossed when people are involved. You can pretend to be a "fictional persona" but, that's just it - you're just pretending. It's still you. The Erotica 1 who abuses people on TS servers is probably the same, almost evil, person who abuses his/her loved ones. No one can completely compartmentalize themselves away from their actions and anyone who thinks they can is just delusional. That's scary. That's dangerous. And that's what this Code represents - justification of deeply immoral and cruel actions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-60048891158225431342014-03-10T16:47:27.590+00:002014-03-10T16:47:27.590+00:00Looks like I got very lucky when started then, be...Looks like I got very lucky when started then, been in the first corp that I joined for over six years now. Through a very small bit of mining, a lot of missions and four years of pirating. Darek Castigatushttp://www.shadowcartel.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-71468838624519614342014-03-10T15:22:45.178+00:002014-03-10T15:22:45.178+00:00I'm rather curious to find out if people who r...I'm rather curious to find out if people who role-play beta males (and females) in a video game would suddenly nut up in real life to take violent action. I rather think there would be a lot of name calling and crying by a few of them, then a lot of backing down. I'm tempted to go to Eve Vegas with a "Got permit?" shirt to find out.<br /><br />Those making such threats though should realize that the real police are a much bigger deal than the space police. And even threatening to harm someone in real life, at least in the U.S., is a crime. Sadly, "he blew up my internet spaceship", will probably not sway the jury in your favor.Malcolm Shinhwanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-83586535266707365212014-03-10T14:58:15.492+00:002014-03-10T14:58:15.492+00:00How do you bully pixels?How do you bully pixels?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-73443271051772841892014-03-09T20:29:32.007+00:002014-03-09T20:29:32.007+00:00See, this is what worries me most - people who pla... See, this is what worries me most - people who play EVE but don't understand the difference between fiction and reality. Please listen, Anon 1:43, if you're wishing bad things on people in real life (or making threats) because of what their fictional personas do in a fictional world, I don't think that EVE is the game for you. Take a step back and see if you can't clear your head. This kind of threat based on in-game actions is not healthy.Angus Adalwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03181058076801313424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-76053872894808924512014-03-09T18:57:10.955+00:002014-03-09T18:57:10.955+00:00Anonymous 2:08,
The new players that you describe...Anonymous 2:08,<br /><br />The new players that you describe as the weakest link are also our greatest hope.<br /><br />By ganking them before they are stuck in their ways, they get an introduction to the game that is eve, and start to THINK about what they do before they fall into very bad habits and routine... Those that decide to drop the game are probably not suited to EVE in the first place.<br /><br />That is why we even Gank ventures, even when they are cheaper than the ships we lose to CONCORD!LarsUlrikhttps://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Larsulrik%20Napsterbanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-89512225636242808152014-03-09T15:29:24.669+00:002014-03-09T15:29:24.669+00:00Very well-said Sasha.Very well-said Sasha.Alistair Drakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-43804624383320396732014-03-09T15:26:54.479+00:002014-03-09T15:26:54.479+00:00Dear Anonymous,
The excellent researching you say ...Dear Anonymous,<br />The excellent researching you say you engaged in prior to playing Eve seems to have slipped of late. James 315 has addressed every one of your arguments in well reasoned and logically consistent ways, coming from a position of knowledge and a genuine desire to improve highsec.<br />You say that respurces belong to the faction or corp who (sic) own the system. The New Order claims, runs and aggressively defends all of highsec, which like lowsec and w-space, cannot be branded via game mechanics. Would you say that Black Legion does not "own" Hophib at the moment, just because their alliance logo is not able to be displayed on it? That the HERO coalition does not "own" Sendaya? That Pandemic Legion does not own whatever lowsec slum they currently occupy? Of course not. Your argument is invalid.<br /> Eve is counterintuitive, never more so than with the issue of player retention, where emergent (even adverse) content is a key factor in players not quitting out of boredom. You would be advised to stop trusting your instincts and rely on research again. Good day to you sir/madam.Clara Pondnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-61435596242243581282014-03-09T15:02:05.510+00:002014-03-09T15:02:05.510+00:00Hi Anonymous 2.08 pm,
'New miners' are no...Hi Anonymous 2.08 pm,<br /><br />'New miners' are not the only 'weakest links' around. I corrected a 2007 character the other day. Completely untanked, sitting mining in his Retriever, using Drones instead of Modules for protection.<br /><br />And as for chat in Local, today I posted a 'welcome' message, from James 315 and the New Order. Someone piped up 'Is that a threat, Bud?' (the message ends with an invitation to buy a Permit, or risk Bump/Gank).<br /><br />Comment space and Forum threads allow me to be expansive in response to provocative remarks; Local does not. I rarely 'speak' there. On this occasion, I found it sufficient to link the Kill Report, sans comment.<br /><br />That shut them up.<br /><br />A few moments later, a tiny (well, lowercase) voice squeaked 'praise the new order'.<br /><br />Many of our less vocal Supporters are emboldened to speak when they see unassailable proof of the New Order's superiority in performing honourable acts of derring-do.<br /><br />Sasha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-33857921847665219372014-03-09T14:29:14.935+00:002014-03-09T14:29:14.935+00:00Hi Anonymous 12.57, I read your comments with inte...Hi Anonymous 12.57, I read your comments with interest.<br /><br />I am also an older player of Eve Online, and, like you, a fond reader.<br /><br />However, I prefer to read the articles written by James 315. Quite simply, they're better composed, more erudite, more practical than anything else I've read on the subject of Eve Online.<br /><br />You say, 'I do not agree with ganking people who cannot fight back or have limited capacity to fight back.'<br /><br />All New Order Members and Followers know the answer to this one, don't we folks?<br /><br />Navigate to http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/01/how-new-order-will-achieve-final_22.html , or google 'The fact is, ganking carebears who can't shoot back is elite PvP. Indeed, it's one of the higher forms of elite PvP. Because nearly all "elite PvP" in EVE involves shooting people who can't shoot back. People just don't know it.', which is part of the article. <br /><br />It's important to consult original material when researching a subject. Your research is incomplete if you've not read through James 315's published articles. In the interests of balance, I urge you to look deeper.<br /><br />And then act.<br /><br />Sasha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-52528079219436383612014-03-09T14:27:32.664+00:002014-03-09T14:27:32.664+00:00You want something to happen to James and Ero in R...You want something to happen to James and Ero in RL because you don't like their actions in a video game? Get some help dude. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-61052988834617667432014-03-09T14:25:37.003+00:002014-03-09T14:25:37.003+00:00You sound like a Republican.You sound like a Republican.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-45481074141019785942014-03-09T14:08:31.924+00:002014-03-09T14:08:31.924+00:00How about your own Problems?
Codies getting laughe...How about your own Problems?<br />Codies getting laughed at by senior miners when they enter local chat?<br />And no one shut up, because the seniors where tanked and the codie troops only kill the weakest links. thats the new miners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-58006885841038477802014-03-09T13:55:28.943+00:002014-03-09T13:55:28.943+00:00So you are against James 315, The code and everyth...So you are against James 315, The code and everything it stands for?<br /><br />How often have you been approached by agents trying to sell a permit?<br />How often have you been bumped out of an Ice Field, only to come back to your PC after an hour to find you have made nothing?<br />Does not seem like you are part of the biggest problem...Inquisitor Gnomonhttp://www.minerbumping.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-72961792404818469492014-03-09T13:43:34.868+00:002014-03-09T13:43:34.868+00:00gank ok, but humiliations is a no go. Jimmy and hi...gank ok, but humiliations is a no go. Jimmy and his (my oppinion) alt erotica1 dont know when to stop and put that through into real life.<br />i think, if this guy would show up at fanfest and say "im am erotica" or "i am james" it could get very ugly for him. this is not a thread, since he and his guy never killed any of my ships. ( i know everything can be ganked, so it was sheer luck=Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-6275991302316568222014-03-09T12:57:09.231+00:002014-03-09T12:57:09.231+00:00I will admit, this game is *NOT* noob friendly and...I will admit, this game is *NOT* noob friendly and it is really hard to get started because of the multitude of the content that is in the game. The learning curve is very steep. Yes, I was one of those people who went out mining in a venture and was using mining drones instead of combat drones. However, what I would like to point out was I have only been podded twice. The first time was at a gate camp in nullsec. I was flying a shuttle and a PvP gang put a bunch of warp disruption bubbles around the gate at 100km out. The gankers were occupied with other ships so I tried to sneak through. I got to about 50km before they got me. It was a good kill though and I did congradulate them on it. The second one was during actual PvP fleet combat where I had my ECM boat handed to me on my frozen corpse. Although I didn't enjoy the loss, the combat itself was enjoyable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-7822614366812169202014-03-09T12:56:25.452+00:002014-03-09T12:56:25.452+00:00First of all, I am a noob in this game. I've ...First of all, I am a noob in this game. I've been playing this game for about 2 months or so, and I enjoy the scifi format of it. I have played WoW for many years and was looking for something different. In a way, I wish I started playing this game sooner. I am an older player and I find myself in good company which is quite refreshing after dealing with the little kids who play WoW.<br /><br />Now to get something out of the way. I am completely and totally against James 315, the code, and everything it stands for. I think that James 315 is an egotistical maniac with delusions of grandeur who thinks he is the second coming when in fact he hasn't come at all. I do not agree with ganking people who cannot fight back or have limited capacity to fight back. In this game, I see that mining bots are a big problem and it's CCP's place, not James 315, or the CODE., to deal with the problem. The whole idea of a mining "permit" is a scam since the resources belong to whatever faction or corp owns the system. In highsec, that would be the four empires, hence the resources are free for everyone to collect as needed. I look at ganking as the same as bullying, which I find morally wrong. Now that I got that out of the way, let's begin.<br /><br />I guess I'm lucky. If I had the misfortune of joining a corp like TDD's, I wouldn't stay for long, and I would have probably bailed out of the game and gone back to WoW before the 14-day trial was up. You would have to be a fool to stay with a corp like that. If I didn't see it here, I wouldn't believe that people would be so idiotic. Even as a noob, I have been around the block enough times to know when I'm getting the short stick. Unlike alot of people, I researched this game fairly extensively before I jumped in with both feet. So before I even signed up for the 14-day trial, I knew about gate camps, suicide ganking, PvP roams, etc..., and what to do about them. Whatever happened with doing your own research? With a game as complex as this one, you need too or you won't go far and end up quitting out of frustration.<br /><br />I personally like industry, exploration, and PvE combat. Mining is boring as hell, but it's a necessary evil because I need the ore to refine and make ships and modules. I'm not too big on PvP combat, but it really does get the excitement going when that killer instinct kicks in. Being in a mining/industrial corp since about my 2nd or 3rd week, we do have PvP roams in nullsec. For the most part, it's pretty laid back and people generally do their own thing. There are weekly ops and participation is voluntary, and we do get paid quite nicely for our time. The CEO and the senior management have all been online since 2003-2005 so there's a lot of experience with the game there and they do help us noobs when we ask for it. The help and advise they give is sound and competent. The ore buyback program for the corporation is nice as the corp will buyback the ore at rates slightly higher than market, which gives the members the ISK they need to advance in the game.<br /><br />When I first started, I was mining all the time and selling the ore on the open market to get ISK as I couldn't even run level 1 security missions because my ships weren't the best or the best fitted. When I first started, I had no idea what I was doing when I put modules on a ship. Nowadays, level 2 security missions are a cakewalk in my Vexor. I don't mine as much as I used too though. Maybe about 5 hours a day or something, 2-3 days a week when I need to gather materials. What I do during the rest of the time is exploration, mission running, and running combat sites.<br /><br />Ran out of space. Continued below.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-64008199654509161562014-03-09T12:05:22.668+00:002014-03-09T12:05:22.668+00:00New players have no idea what to even expect from ...New players have no idea what to even expect from a corp, or what is involved in providing it. It's difficult to gauge what to realistically expect from a corp/alliance and many newbs on Eve-O seem to have wildly unrealistic expectations of the corps they end up in. <br />They have heard of things like free skillbooks, corp ships on loan, SRP's, that big null alliances commonly offer- but then fully expect the same from the random invite miner corp run by just another newb like them. <br /><br />Newbs like TDD try to use these perks to attract people, but can't honestly support such programs and just end up taxing newbs at insane rates to even try. <br />Many of those newbs will either get wise and leave TDD's corp, or just quit the game entirely- either way they won't be refunded any isk and so the net effect is no different than these newbs being scammed. SollyLamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06911746249966713687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-72207320975983743542014-03-09T11:40:21.419+00:002014-03-09T11:40:21.419+00:00TDD formed a corp as a hissy fit response to being...TDD formed a corp as a hissy fit response to being ganked. It's not a corp, it's one idiot's ego. But the new players he spams invites to won't know this. They will expect a CEO to actually understand the mechanics of the game. They are being offered things that obviously are fantasy, such as an SRP - when he can't even keep an office open at 75% taxes. <br />TDD will only confirm every single negative trope Eve is accused of-<br />-too complicated. hell the CEO doesn't even know the most basic mechanics.<br />-PvP is for 100mil SP Leets. Because they will lose any fight they actually get into under the incompetent leadership of TDD, who will blame the game and thus poison the well for newbies.<br />-that Eve is a 2nd job and it takes forever just to do something new. Because scratching out a living at 75% taxes is ice skating up hill. <br />-that other players are mean. Because he's made himself a target now and I doubt he discloses his 'fame' to new recruits. <br />-His biased views of Eve will sour new players who don't understand the game. For example- will he kick members that purchase a permit? Like we've seen happen before when someone rage forms an anti-New Order corp. <br />He formed a corp to 'take a side' and so is putting new players immediately in the middle of a conflict they likely don't even know exists yet. <br /><br />TDD doesn't want a corp. He just wants people 'on his side'.....but is he being honest with new players that by joining him, they are choosing a side to begin with? <br />Despite the mewlings of care bears...we really do want to make high sec better and Eve more interesting than staring at rocks and blinky wallets. TDD is the exact opposite- he only wants a corp to feed his own ego, he will cause more newbs to leave Eve than gankers RP'ing it up in local. <br />SollyLamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06911746249966713687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-70506422898461554722014-03-09T06:53:36.303+00:002014-03-09T06:53:36.303+00:00This legitimately makes me sick. If this is the ki...This legitimately makes me sick. If this is the kind of thing most highsec corps do, we are providing a greater service to EVE than I ever knew. This is appalling that someone would set up a corp like this and bring new players into it. They need to be introduced to the real EVE and freed from this. My first experience with EVE was mining for a week, and I nearly quit because of it. Only by being shown other aspects of EVE did I stay and learn just how amazing it can be.Angus Adalwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03181058076801313424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-47114610656515746692014-03-09T06:50:25.519+00:002014-03-09T06:50:25.519+00:00Are you twelve?Are you twelve?Angus Adalwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03181058076801313424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-81598937526182466392014-03-09T06:49:35.695+00:002014-03-09T06:49:35.695+00:00This wasn't bullying. TDD's philosophy is ...This wasn't bullying. TDD's philosophy is a cancer that we're cutting out of eve. It must be eradicated to save newbies from this corruption. He's driving people away from EVE by highlighting all the worst parts of it.Angus Adalwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03181058076801313424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-46520893059218587782014-03-09T06:44:54.446+00:002014-03-09T06:44:54.446+00:00Wow, when even our fiercest critics agree with our...Wow, when even our fiercest critics agree with our judgment on this guy, you know he's bad.Angus Adalwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03181058076801313424noreply@blogger.com