tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post4810238825188649725..comments2024-03-18T00:59:04.944+00:00Comments on MinerBumping.com: CCP Study Vindicates New Order PhilosophyMinerBumpinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16932737268774492206noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-18662096333124651542019-03-04T08:56:10.987+00:002019-03-04T08:56:10.987+00:00أيضاًً تقدم مؤسسة بخ مبيدات بجازان افضل الخدمات لت...أيضاًً تقدم مؤسسة بخ مبيدات بجازان افضل الخدمات لتحصين جميع الأماكن من الحشرات قبل عملية التشييد سواء كانت بيوت أو مصانع فحيث تقوم المؤسسة ببخ الأرض ودواخلها قبل أي عملية تشييد للتأكد من أنها شاغرة على الإطلاقً من الحشرات وخصوصا النمل الأبيض الذي يقوم بتدمير البنية الأساسية في اغلب الأوقات، فكل ذلك حفاظاً من المؤسسة علي ريادتها لمجال بخ المبيدات بجازان.<br /><a href="https://www.elnogom.com/" rel="nofollow">شركة النجوم لمكافحة الحشرات</a><br /><a href="https://www.elnogom.com/%D9%85%D9%83%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%AD%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B5%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D8%A8%D9%85%D9%83%D8%A9/" rel="nofollow">شركة مكافحة الصراصير بمكة</a><br /><a href="https://www.elnogom.com/%D8%B4%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A9-%D9%85%D9%83%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%AD%D8%A9-%D8%AD%D8%B4%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A8%D9%85%D9%83%D8%A9/" rel="nofollow">شركة مكافحة حشرات بمكة</a><br /><a href="https://www.elnogom.com/pest-control-in-jeddah/" rel="nofollow">شركة مكافحة حشرات بجدة</a><br />ahmedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02217357804798167780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-15816057049500391472014-01-15T18:56:08.940+00:002014-01-15T18:56:08.940+00:00Nope, looks like someone needs to reread the Code....Nope, looks like someone needs to reread the Code.Right Tutornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-81217105615816055872014-01-15T17:47:51.067+00:002014-01-15T17:47:51.067+00:00Actually, since a lot of (not all) carebears AFK m...Actually, since a lot of (not all) carebears AFK mine and sell their ores for such low prices, miners that actually pay attention can't make a decent profit. With carebears dying, the decent miners will be able to make a good profit. And there is nothing stopping PVP'ers from making alts to mine the belts.Alistair Drakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-15653472626295227182014-01-09T09:34:35.884+00:002014-01-09T09:34:35.884+00:00I have a lot I could post on this but I won't....I have a lot I could post on this but I won't. Maybe you have already heard it all before. I don't necessarily agree that killing carebears is the way to go (please correct me if I'm wrong) but while I've been annoyed at the empty belts just as anyone else, on the other hand I just don't see how anyone can mine for very long. As boring as missions can get, and I've ran l4s for quite a long time before I started thinking about venturing in PvP realms again, I can't think of doing anything in Eve quite as boring as mining. Not to justify it, but without the bot miners to mine all the necessary ore for making items and ships in Eve...wouldn't the cost of everything eventually go up to prices that make buying necessary items unreasonable for the newbie and other people not yet financially established in Eve?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-7251311488291873642014-01-07T18:17:50.386+00:002014-01-07T18:17:50.386+00:00But the New Order is wrong, and always has been. G...But the New Order is wrong, and always has been. Ganking miners? Please, go do some real PVPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-57322743650171593712014-01-07T18:16:24.863+00:002014-01-07T18:16:24.863+00:00Prime example of bullying in the New Order.
And h...Prime example of bullying in the New Order. <br />And he's right, you're wrongAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-6467565552714031082014-01-07T17:14:53.964+00:002014-01-07T17:14:53.964+00:00Well I am new to EVE and as a new player coming fr...Well I am new to EVE and as a new player coming from other MMO's EVE is different. Other MMO's you can happily run around by yourself for 5 years never really talking to people because you level up and go to another area of the map talking to NPC players and you follow a story.<br /><br />You are part of that story and world or even you are the centre point for the story of the MMO but if you want to join a group of players and be more social then sure that is available to you as a player.<br /><br />I think EVE players expect every player to join corporations and get on comms so you can talk to others because it’s what’s been done for 10 years. If you don’t like this type of game play then you see that door over there… yup that’s the door you need to go to, yes the exit and never come back again door.<br /><br />If you are new like myself and come to EVE. It’s very easy to understand why people come into the game play for a bit and then leave.<br /> <br />You are most likely looking at people that play other MMO games that are used to my first point I made about other MMO’s. Now take that person that likes to just do missions and play by himself and does not really want to get on comms and join a corporation that is part of a Massive Alliance that is at war with another Alliance over some system. They simply want to log in and have fun.<br /><br />EVE is not that fun for them. You want to do missions and fly space ships then guess what you going to do the same missions over and over and over and over again. Do you know what you get if you finish them. Yip another mission to do it again. No story behind it. Go here shoot come back and do it again. I’m bored just writing that.<br /><br />The sisters of eve story line mission arch are the way that Eve missions need to go. It makes the whole mission feel like what you doing in game is making a difference and as you then go up in levels the missions get harder and then will take you out into low security and then finally into null or even WH space. This allows the player to slowly skill up his toon and gets to know what is out there for him/her in EVE. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-15741532308669280612014-01-06T18:30:53.582+00:002014-01-06T18:30:53.582+00:00It doesn't make them right, they were always r...It doesn't make them right, they were always right. No one can make you right when you are already right. All someone can do then is confirm you are right, or prove you are right, which is what these minutes have done.Right Tutornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-82012329720225381402014-01-06T17:10:40.182+00:002014-01-06T17:10:40.182+00:00So by never referring to the idiots of the New Ord...So by never referring to the idiots of the New Order at all it still makes you right? <br />Logic, not something the New Order of Murderers is known for apparently Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-2761357354549048982014-01-06T13:14:25.237+00:002014-01-06T13:14:25.237+00:00I've seen a lot of high sec care bears almost ...I've seen a lot of high sec care bears almost quit Eve until they get war decked or harassed. One guy I knew had two characters in high sec, one mining and the other running missions. and now one of them is in W space and the other was -10. It all happened after our high sec corp was repeatedly war decked and we started fighting back. As for me I've been in W space for about two years now and go on low sec / null sec roams in addition to PVP in W space. Never would have happened had we not been greifed in the beginning...Dalantechhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17491343159917303555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-60385886903060096712014-01-06T06:49:35.998+00:002014-01-06T06:49:35.998+00:00No.No.Smart Guynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-22058167964389353712014-01-06T04:52:10.399+00:002014-01-06T04:52:10.399+00:00Likening a random gank to "engaging" a p...Likening a random gank to "engaging" a player is about the same as saying that the "Knockout Game" is like a first date.<br />Well, ok, perhaps it's like a first date with me: traumatic and full of tears. Enough about my love life, though.<br />"Engaging" players is like being that smart guy that comes along after aforementioned date with me, and holds them, going "It's ok, he was a jerk anyway. Here, let me show you some better guys to hang out with."<br />Only in EVE, I happen to be the "smart guy", and I do know some hawt chicks thanks to EVE. >:-D<br />/nonsequiturHong WeiLohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14702284760088727892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-60126286998425892482014-01-06T04:51:00.017+00:002014-01-06T04:51:00.017+00:00Ripard Teg will only admit to being wrong with abo...Ripard Teg will only admit to being wrong with about 20 caveats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-65313441709090511302014-01-06T00:07:50.392+00:002014-01-06T00:07:50.392+00:00Current CSM member Ripard Teg likes to promote him...Current CSM member Ripard Teg likes to promote himself as a reasonable person, who, when faced with hard data that contravenes his point of view, will admit to being wrong and take a different stance. I'm wondering if he will take the time to revisit this post from last year:<br />http://jestertrek.blogspot.ch/2013/01/cotw-ganking-isnt-pvp-and-never-was.html<br /><br />... and explain how his point of view has changed since his visit to Iceland.<br /><br />He certainly went to some lengths at the end of last year to revisit his "Best of 2013" blog posts, in his end of year review of his favourite blog entries he even pointed to a piece that he wrote back in March 2013 (http://jestertrek.blogspot.ch/2013/03/things-could-be-worse.html) in response to James 315's CSM vision for Highsec. Not only did he completely fail to mention how his views on new player retention were shown to be completely wrong in every way by CCP themselves and instead, continue to promote his erroneous viewpoint, but In reviewing his own work, he managed to give himself credit for something he had nothing to do with:<br /><br />I'm convinced this post went a long way toward driving James315 out of the CSM8 election (http://jestertrek.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/best-of-2013-15-11.html - #11).<br /><br />Which is probably just an inkling of the kind of thing we'll be hearing from him in respect of his efforts on the CSM as re-election time approaches.<br /><br />In the meantime, James, working tirelessly for the betterment of Eve outside of the restrictions of the CSM has been shown to be right time and time again.<br /><br />When James 315 talks, CCP listens.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08058886788180984981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-55946812014405913832014-01-05T23:08:54.322+00:002014-01-05T23:08:54.322+00:00Oops, that's a mirror you were looking at. Yo...Oops, that's a mirror you were looking at. You don't really look that much like the Savior, but perhaps your imagination was filling in the gaps. And I do mean gaps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-87641344422388848442014-01-05T21:22:20.422+00:002014-01-05T21:22:20.422+00:00oh look. James is frantically self-pleasuring in p...oh look. James is frantically self-pleasuring in public again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-72824696241876500342014-01-05T19:42:33.834+00:002014-01-05T19:42:33.834+00:00It's called the rookie systems. Those are the ...It's called the rookie systems. Those are the only areas in EVE people can be punished for normal things(griefing, suicide ganking, suspect baiting, scamming)<br /><br />Source: Me getting a 3 day ban.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-83126370239691259272014-01-05T17:03:24.912+00:002014-01-05T17:03:24.912+00:00I've said it in the past but I'll say it a...I've said it in the past but I'll say it again in a slightly different way.<br /><br />Corporation CEO's are the backbone to the player experience. If you have a bad CEO that doesn't embrace emergent and diverse playing styles you're left with a player base of apathetic players who slowly but surely fail to log in, group and promote Eve Online.<br /><br />Malcolm Shinhwa is the shining example in this comment section alone, and there are many others who didn't get or take that opportunity and left Eve with a bad or worse, an indifferent attitude to Eve Online.<br /><br />The entry barrier to becoming a CEO is in my opinion too low, which has lead to many many bad CEO's wanting the title but not prepared for the responsibility.<br /><br />If CCP wants to address this issue and they have started the process with the redesigned tutorial levels (namely the mission where you're given a ship to take out, which you will lose), plus the now awesome corpse death screen - makes seeing it so much more rewarding after suffering from a pod loss.<br /><br />They have to do more. Extra isk to create a corporation, a minimum of two or three signatures that will act as co-ceo/directors. Yes of course alts can and will be used, but that will take effort that a lot of the lazy CEO's will not take it upon themselves to do.<br /><br />I've set up corporations only for the divisional hangar access for easier separation of modules etc because of the clunky inventory window (even with filters), means it can be annoying to find and sort.<br />Sidrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07120481116949387059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-12133933337985002132014-01-05T05:55:08.485+00:002014-01-05T05:55:08.485+00:00Shout this from the rooftops. Ripard Teg and Trebo...Shout this from the rooftops. Ripard Teg and Trebor Daehdoow will ruin Eve if left to their ridiculous ideas on new player retention. CCP doesn't need to blur the lines between PvP and PvE by making PvE more PvP "like/" They need to get the PvE players involved in PvP through "procedurally generated" and progressively more difficult incursions where both PvP and PvE happen in the same place.NocturnalDeathhttp://noirmercs.com/forumdisplay.php?200-Recruitingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-74812962083106468732014-01-05T01:33:23.620+00:002014-01-05T01:33:23.620+00:00"Dr. EyjoG has been on CCP's staff for so..."Dr. EyjoG has been on CCP's staff for some years; he wasn't hired specifically for the purpose of determining player retention in EVE. His research into EVE's economy demonstrated some years ago that PVP is EVE's endgame."<br /><br />Actually, the meeting minutes state pretty clearly that this is indeed an ongoing project; and the article here stated that the Dr. was already a CCP expert before this project; so you're basically zero for two, here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-47109684367238162082014-01-05T01:28:41.475+00:002014-01-05T01:28:41.475+00:00Also, it warms my dead heart to see Ripard Teg'...Also, it warms my dead heart to see Ripard Teg's pet theory get publicly smacked down by an economist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-34276280489707198042014-01-05T01:19:59.325+00:002014-01-05T01:19:59.325+00:00Great writeup about the CCP meeting minutes, thoug...Great writeup about the CCP meeting minutes, though I have one point I wanted to bring up:<br /><br />Dr. EyjoG has been on CCP's staff for some years; he wasn't hired specifically for the purpose of determining player retention in EVE. His research into EVE's economy demonstrated some years ago that PVP is EVE's endgame. Awesome guy, really good with numbers and data mining; I'd totally love to have a beer with him sometime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-49694406791150774172014-01-05T01:16:31.941+00:002014-01-05T01:16:31.941+00:00As I've said many times here and on the eve-o ...As I've said many times here and on the eve-o forums, 3 mo into my Eve life I had one account and was getting ready to cancel that one. If I had to save that g-d damsel one more time I was going to biomass anyway. Then I found this blog and spent all weekend reading every entry. Created a ganker that weekend and went on my first gank with some legends of the Order:<br /><br />http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16779986<br /><br />Now I have 3 accounts, live in a wh with Ophidia Black, and we shoot at all the things and sometimes die in a hilarious fire. Without the NO bringing the sandbox and emergent gameplay into my Eve-life, I'd have no Eve-life. The PvE in this game is some of the most boring I've ever seen. Its no wonder that those who just PvE quit.Malcolm Shinhwanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-48140917806946174462014-01-05T01:14:22.975+00:002014-01-05T01:14:22.975+00:00i suspect CCP are grappling with the issue of tryi...i suspect CCP are grappling with the issue of trying to bring in new players, simple as that really. In almost any business i have looked at, c80% new joiners (whether it be online games, or online betting etc) tend to drop out after 5 years anyway, but those remaining 20% end up being more valuable than the entire starting 100%.<br /><br />The problem CCP has is that the "sandbox" that is Eve is so different from other online games that they need to prepare or protect their new players. CCP appears to want to go down the "prepare route" whereas others suggest the "protect" route.<br />Crodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16620994327943613623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-75002677860764961822014-01-04T23:52:29.695+00:002014-01-04T23:52:29.695+00:00Imagine a James Bond movie without a villain. Just...Imagine a James Bond movie without a villain. Just Bond and no "bad" guys, just how boring would that be? The better the Bond villain, the better the movie. If playing Eve is akin to carving your own personal story in to the sandbox, then how boring would it be without challenges to overcome and villains to fight against? May I suggest a single player version of Eve for those that disapprove of the New Order.virm pasuulnoreply@blogger.com