tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post8004800278508696140..comments2024-03-18T00:59:04.944+00:00Comments on MinerBumping.com: The Trial of Krimletch, Part 4MinerBumpinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16932737268774492206noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-42366563324307183942015-02-28T08:10:12.817+00:002015-02-28T08:10:12.817+00:00"Ming TsoFebruary 27, 2015 at 3:58 PM"
N..."Ming TsoFebruary 27, 2015 at 3:58 PM"<br />No, no address no certificate, told you that allready. <br />If you think I'm that bad so I would pick a fight for this you are lower than I thought. <br />Drive to you? <br />You have to live in Sweden for that to be possible. <br />If you are afraid that I would carry a gun I can say that carry guns is not legal here. <br />I do have guns but for hunting and target shooting, wouldn't risk my licenses for a video game unless you try to hurt me or my family. <br /><br />You can give me your nearest vet so I can send it to them. <br />This is the last chance if you want proof, I don't really care if you believe me or not. <br />You seems to be the one that have a lot to hide, not me. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-50036798946846044302015-02-27T22:28:01.133+00:002015-02-27T22:28:01.133+00:00The symbols are supposed to be like a shooting sta...The symbols are supposed to be like a shooting star. I have a thing for stars. I considered 'PoliteAnon' and 'Gallant Miner' and some other things I've been called by yourself or Ming, but any anon title might be confusing if another anon comes along, and I can think of a number of problems with calling myself gallant. My character name would cause me grief, so I didn't use that.<br /><br />I suggest just calling me 'Star', if that floats your boat. It's short, and I already have a number of nicknames like that. As long as you're not trying to be mean about it, though, you can call me whatever you feel like.ミ★https://www.blogger.com/profile/01953691268850032763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-52470646730700993652015-02-27T21:20:43.222+00:002015-02-27T21:20:43.222+00:00No worries, Commenter-Formerly-Known-As-Polite-Ano...No worries, Commenter-Formerly-Known-As-Polite-Anon (not trying to be a smartass with the name thing, I just don't know how to type the symbols which constitute the name you've chosen for yourself). I'm probably at least as verbose as you, so you're not going to bother me by not being succinct.<br /><br />The thing one has to remember about Code Agents (apart from the fact that we're constantly abused and harassed by carebears, and that that tends to make people touchy and suspicious) is that we're a very decentralized, grass-roots kind of group. Kind of like Al Qaeda, James 315 has made public documents detailing our goals, ideals, and preferred methodology, and anyone who agrees with these values can train up a ganking toon, buy a handful of catalysts, and start helping to enforce the Code. It's recommended that people spend time in the minerbumping channel and interact with the ganking community (both through the comments and the forum here on minerbumping, and through teamspeak chats arranged in-game), but none of that is required, or enforceable. Another analogy might be a franchise, except without needing permission from the parent company. Anyone can start bumping miners, ganking them, and selling permits in their area. As long as they themselves aren't also violating the Code, they'll be acknowledged as fellow Agents by any other Agents they may come across.<br /><br />What all this means in practice is that there is enormous variety in the folks you'll meet who will self-identify as Code Agents. Not everyone ganks or bumps, either. I myself have only participated in a couple of ganks, and although I did help scout for loyalanon's freighter ganking fleets once or twice, I could never claim that my main contributions to the Code have been in the form of in-game PvP. Like you, I'm actually pretty damn bad at PvP, and wouldn't feel like I was making a valuable contribution that way. Instead, I've decided to try to help spread the ideals of the Code through culture, by writing haiku and talking with people. As James 315 says in the "Become an Agent" tab, at the top of the page, there are ways to support the New Order other than ganking or bumping ships. Sasha helps support the New Order by lending his amazing voice the cause. Loyalanon helped through his organizational skills, etc. Not everyone you meet will be kind, or well-spoken, or (unfortunately) necessarily polite. Some agents will take all the time you need to explain everything, debate the fine points of the Code, and welcome you into the family. Others will just shoot you in the face and be on their way. No one Agent or set of Agents is truly representative of the whole, and there is little that every single Agent has in common, beyond agreement that the Code represents the best way forward for Highsec.<br /><br />It sounds to me like you agree with the values and content of the Code, Commenter-Formerly-Known-As-PoliteAnon. Highsec *is* too safe these days, and the incentives which formerly existed to leave highsec and join the real game in lowsec and null have been slowly chipped away, until people exist who have spent their entire long EvE careers in highsec and see no reason to ever leave. And habitual carebearism *is* bad for people, it does make them unhappy, and it is perfectly natural to want to do something to help carebears stop being so unhappy all the time. The solutions to all these problems lie in the Code. More risk in highsec, so that people will graduate out of it and go forth to enjoy the real rewards in EvE. Less antisocial PvE, more social PvP. Less filth and hatred in local, more respectful and cordial discussion.<br /><br />I don't think you'll remain a rebel for long, tbh. You're already 90% of the way to accepting the Code. I look forward to calling you a fellow Agent of the Code.Maria Malukkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-84313426386687673332015-02-27T20:47:55.958+00:002015-02-27T20:47:55.958+00:00I don't think I can answer your question, Mari...I don't think I can answer your question, Maria. I'll assume you're looking for some kind of logical rationale, but my motivations are purely naive idealism. It's built into my programming to be unhappy with others' unhappiness and seeing people bent out of shape makes me want to do something to fix it.<br /><br />I haven't played EvE for very long. At the risk of spinning you a tired old tale, I have a 9 year old character who's essentially a newb with only a couple months of training time. We didn't have incursions or ventures then, and going into losec WAS appealing because mining the ores there was profitable. I found out about CODE somehow, read one of James 315's articles on why a risk free hisec was bad for EvE, and seeing my reasons to want to leave hisec essentially erased, I agreed with that.<br /><br />On the blog, I find CODE to be polite, and I don't feel too bad about posting because I don't think anyone is going to respond to me with hate even if they disagree with me. In game, though, my experience with CODE has ranged from being ignored, to kicked from the minerbumping channel, to 'marked red and being actively hunted' for the crime of trying to learn about you. You say, though, that agents are primed to expect nothing but filth, lies, and rage from miners and I'm inclined to think that's probably true. I try to set aside that negative experience and focus on the much better one I'm getting here, but I still have doubts about to what extent your average CODE agent is ganking for ideals vs. tears.<br /><br />I have my doubts that there's a place for me in CODE at all. I would have atrocious combat performance and it's not something I even like to do, regardless of whether I win or lose, and I feel that any function for which I would have talent is not valuable enough to be desirable. My defense against CODE is purely passive, and mostly involves following the code and being chatty and curious enough that checking bios and watching local are second nature. I'm not leading some kind of valiant war effort or anything. If someone came along and offered me a place in an anti-CODE fleet where I could help with their non-combat duties, AND they weren't asses to CODE agents, I'd join because it'd be interesting, and I have greater confidence that you guys could handle the virtual conflict with maturity. If I have to choose a virtual foe, I guess I prefer one that's not going to give me grief. I don't know if that was one of the ways you intended to improve the EvE experience, but it's to your credit that you do.<br /><br />Sorry I couldn't be more succinct. I never did really understand myself well enough to know why I do things the way I do, so I am not very good at trying to explain it. ^^;ミ★https://www.blogger.com/profile/01953691268850032763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-28595885665881026262015-02-27T16:53:47.380+00:002015-02-27T16:53:47.380+00:00It wasn't so he could come fight you, Ming. Yo...It wasn't so he could come fight you, Ming. You ought to know better, miners are far too cowardly for that. But ordering pizzas to your house (to be paid with cash on delivery of course), using your address to learn your irl name and from that phone number or email and harass you, that kind of thing...that's within the scope of a miner's spiteful, cowardly grasp. It's pretty pathetic that Anon@4:07 was stupid enough to think that lies about a dead kitty would be enough to get him that information about you. But then, he hasn't exactly made himself out to be an intelligent or valuable person so far.Maria Malukkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-75266879123592847332015-02-27T15:58:13.045+00:002015-02-27T15:58:13.045+00:00@Anon4:07
Now it sounds like you want me to give y...@Anon4:07<br />Now it sounds like you want me to give you my real address so that you can get in your car, drive here, and come into my house. Which to me, sounds like a bad idea that you haven't really thought through. At all.<br /><br />So let me propose an alternate (better) idea, one that accomplishes your goals without you potentially having to leave your child without a parent. You take a picture of your "cat's death certificate," put it up on imgur, and post a link. And, while you are at it, you could just pop over to the website where your "economy reports" are located, and then put that link right below the first one. This solution would back up both of your claims, would establish your credibility, and most importantly, it would prove me wrong.<br /><br />But I don't think you're going to prove me wrong. Because, frankly, I think you're lying to get sympathy. I don't believe the story about your cat. In particular, not because it's hard as hell for children to get ahold of cats, (albeit possible,) but because I tragically know that veterinarians don't issue death certificates for animals they put to sleep. The only death certificates you can get for pets are custom ones online as mementos. <br /><br />But please, if you're not lying, post the links and make me eat crow. <br />It's been a long time since I've had to eat crow. Please. Make me eat crow.Ming Tsonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-63788523932289167742015-02-27T14:16:59.231+00:002015-02-27T14:16:59.231+00:00Nice to make your acquaintance, commenter-formerly...Nice to make your acquaintance, commenter-formerly-known-as-PoliteAnon!<br /><br />If you don't mind my asking, just why do you feel compelled to defend people who not even their allies can avoid finding repellent?Maria Malukkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-69861294173519695042015-02-27T11:44:33.026+00:002015-02-27T11:44:33.026+00:00For the sake of facilitating communication, I am t...For the sake of facilitating communication, I am the one who posted the root comment that this is in reply to, and I've made a number of polite posts on other recent blog entries on minerbumping. Perhaps all of them that you can attribute to a rebel that isn't rabid, much to my dismay. Uphill PR battle indeed.ミ★https://www.blogger.com/profile/01953691268850032763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-40476226092615875812015-02-27T04:07:49.885+00:002015-02-27T04:07:49.885+00:00"Ming TsoFebruary 27, 2015 at 3:00 AM"
Y..."Ming TsoFebruary 27, 2015 at 3:00 AM"<br />You are so full of shit that half would be enough! <br />I did two things around that time. <br />I had to put my beloved cat to sleep, some coward took out their rage on him and broke his spine. <br />The second thing were I had to visit my daughters kindergarten. <br />I can send you the certificate of my cat put to sleep, just give me your real address. No real verifiable address = no certificate, it's up to you now. <br /><br />You must be a child or a very very bad person. <br />I'm 39 years old and I still don't play chess, teach me and we can play. As you fired the question you must come to my place or consider yourself beaten. <br /><br />What's your next accusation? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-80289552938519663082015-02-27T03:00:30.204+00:002015-02-27T03:00:30.204+00:00@Anon9:21
Hmmm, proof? Will this be the same kind ...@Anon9:21<br />Hmmm, proof? Will this be the same kind of proof that you provided for the existence of your so-called "economy reports?" Or will it be the kind of proof I provided when I told you you didn't have the stones to play me in Chess?Ming Tsonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-11933123181884505542015-02-27T02:01:35.219+00:002015-02-27T02:01:35.219+00:00It's a bit disheartening seeing over and over ...It's a bit disheartening seeing over and over again this carebear obsession with money. No thought of all the good we do or the joy we spread throughout highsec, just money money money. I don't even know what you lot <i>want</i> with all that money, it's not like having it brings you any joy.Maria Malukkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-48572736374793092352015-02-27T01:51:56.183+00:002015-02-27T01:51:56.183+00:00I'm trying to figure out what your goal is her...I'm trying to figure out what your goal is here, M. I mean, I doubt you're actually hallucinating, so you must be aware that Ming's comment has no spelling errors, no double words, nothing wrong with it grammatically. Yet you're acting as if it does. Why? Are you really hoping to anger someone by pretending they've made mistakes when they haven't?Maria Malukkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-10970453145891822942015-02-26T21:57:15.808+00:002015-02-26T21:57:15.808+00:00Tisk tisk tisk.....new order is down to under 50% ...Tisk tisk tisk.....new order is down to under 50% of what it had just 2 months ago....my how the isk flies when they conduct their criminal enterprises.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-73430307098445929552015-02-26T21:53:02.175+00:002015-02-26T21:53:02.175+00:00I love how the more ming gets upset the more he mi...I love how the more ming gets upset the more he mispells and does double words. We should make a ming bingo card, thou honestly everyone would fill it out in no time at all.<br />*tosses ming a copy of "hooked-on-phonics"* Please do try to use it from time to time m'kay?<br /><br />-=M=-<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-70274979450644863232015-02-26T21:22:36.764+00:002015-02-26T21:22:36.764+00:00"Maria MalukkerFebruary 26, 2015 at 8:46 PM&q..."Maria MalukkerFebruary 26, 2015 at 8:46 PM"<br />Have no in game name except for H1Z1, called Floke there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-77008640659332434342015-02-26T21:21:32.487+00:002015-02-26T21:21:32.487+00:00"Ming TsoFebruary 26, 2015 at 8:47 PM"
I..."Ming TsoFebruary 26, 2015 at 8:47 PM"<br />I have proof that I could not post anything at that time so come on and grow some balls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-46872926868384884602015-02-26T20:47:53.212+00:002015-02-26T20:47:53.212+00:00Yeah right, like this isn't you:
[i]"Mar...Yeah right, like this isn't you:<br /><br />[i]"Maria MalukkerFebruary 25, 2015 at 7:37 PM"<br />No one dare to challenge me at chess since they won't survive to the end.<br />Read a few studies about games and rage and you will quickly see why Code is the wrong way of doing stuff in EVE. [/i]<br /><br /><br />Like I said: You don't have the guts. Typical for a carebear though.<br />I will count your refusal as a loss. Not like you could have beaten an Agent of the New Order even if you had the stones to try.<br /><br />ANOTHER VICTORY FOR THE NEW ORDER!!!!Ming Tsonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-11526961509006944712015-02-26T20:46:01.032+00:002015-02-26T20:46:01.032+00:00If you don't like people confusing you for one...If you don't like people confusing you for one of the other 15 cowardly Anons, why not start using a name, Anon@8:36? It doesn't have to be your in-game name (or perhaps you're one of the Anons who swears up and down that he "doesn't play EvE and it's a dumb game" yet spends 4 hours a day on a blog relevant only to EvE-players), but using a consistent handle we can know you by would enable better communication.Maria Malukkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-1149917152646692682015-02-26T20:36:48.194+00:002015-02-26T20:36:48.194+00:00"Maria MalukkerFebruary 26, 2015 at 7:45 PM&q..."Maria MalukkerFebruary 26, 2015 at 7:45 PM"<br />Nope, I'm not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-50968082558340079052015-02-26T19:45:56.812+00:002015-02-26T19:45:56.812+00:00It's so hard to keep all the cowardly anonymou...It's so hard to keep all the cowardly anonymous miners straight. Aren't you the guy who was saying that nobody would survive until the end of a chess match with them?Maria Malukkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-54956589274809675872015-02-26T19:45:04.718+00:002015-02-26T19:45:04.718+00:00There are many colorful Anons in the comments sect...There are many colorful Anons in the comments section that we've grown to know and love. There's BuffoonAnon, who loves using the word 'buffoon'. There's VeersAnon (well... there's quite a few of those). There's TuffAnon, who is willing to accept any RL duel to the death.Alana Charen-Tenghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12744322643950613859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-1998486278296296342015-02-26T19:42:06.756+00:002015-02-26T19:42:06.756+00:00"Ming TsoFebruary 26, 2015 at 7:26 PM"
M..."Ming TsoFebruary 26, 2015 at 7:26 PM"<br />Ming one of the Code player that can't read or understand that every company are forced by law to produce economic reports and that they are not secret at all.<br />Read again and see if I'm a miner.<br /><br />I don't play chess so you need to find another player if you have to play chess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-90114657839349666442015-02-26T19:26:28.357+00:002015-02-26T19:26:28.357+00:00@Anon7:07
Miner, calm down. You're out of line...@Anon7:07<br />Miner, calm down. You're out of line. <br /><br />And by the way, I'm still looking forward to you backing up your claim about how anyone who challenged you at Chess wouldn't survive until the end of the match. (Because, presumably, you would kill them.)<br /><br />My challenge stands. Which color do you prefer? Black or White?<br />Or do you not have the GUTS to face me?<br />Ming Tsonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-48836852321541475692015-02-26T19:07:58.095+00:002015-02-26T19:07:58.095+00:00"Maria MalukkerFebruary 26, 2015 at 6:45 PM&q..."Maria MalukkerFebruary 26, 2015 at 6:45 PM"<br />You need to play EVE to be able to even think of the fake agents you are talking about.<br />Still Ming spells like a retard so start spelling better or go gank yourself....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1359240470593955814.post-73925652605335483512015-02-26T18:45:30.927+00:002015-02-26T18:45:30.927+00:00There's no need to be rude, Anon@6:41. And giv...There's no need to be rude, Anon@6:41. And given that you are speaking to an Agent of the Code, there is every reason not to be. Though I suppose you do serve as a perfect example of the reprehensible behavior Ming was talking about.Maria Malukkernoreply@blogger.com