Over the past several days, I have been deluged by EVEmails asking me about my fittings and bumping techniques. To my great embarrassment, I have been forced to resort to sending copy-pasta responses. By popular demand, I'm addressing these questions in a post. This should be particularly useful to those of you who are new to bumping and interested in joining the New Order. I will be linking this post on the Become an Agent page for easy reference.
Let's start with the most common question. Pictured above is the schematic for my succeedfit Invincible Stabber. It's actually a Stabber Fleet Issue, which gives it a little extra. I would like to stress that a regular stabber is just fine for bumping, and there's no need to spend the extra isk on a SFI unless you really want to; the stabber is a great, affordable bumping ship. I'm including this only because so many people ask about my own fittings. Some of them just want to make an estimate of my EHP for future assassination attempts, but most are just curious for their own bumping.
I use a 10mn microwarpdrive and a combination of nanofibers and inertia stabs. As you can see, the rest is shield tank, and a cloak for AFK cloaking. I also use a power diagnostic system, which provides a little extra shields and capacitor (since I use my MWD a lot). A regular stabber fitting would be similar.
Some people like to fit an oversized 100mn MWD, but my preferred method is to use the 10mn and apply multiple bumps until the miner has been sent the desired distance. At a distance of at least 5km or so, fire up your MWD and approach the target. After you hit him, stop your ship and wait for him to travel another 5km or so from you, then hit again. Just a couple bumps will do the trick. Ice miners have a range of 10-12km, or roughly 17km with orca bonuses.
You don't need to ask my permission to join the New Order. If you believe in the Code, you are authorized to enforce it. Nor is it strictly necessary to only bump miners in current New Order territory; some prefer to go abroad. This is referred to as "ranging" or "going on a range". In doing so, you offer miners of other highsec systems a preview of the joy they'll eventually experience as we take all highsec.
How to enforce the Code?
Pictured above is an Agent demanding 10 million isk from a miner who failed to adequately prove he was at his keyboard. The usual routine is as follows: Find a miner and ask him in local if he's AFK or botting. If he fails to respond, he is guilty. If he does respond, ask him for his 10 million isk mining fee. If he pays, he's good for 365 days. If he fails to pay, he's guilty of breaking the Code--just as if he were mining AFK. Paying the mining fee is extremely beneficial to the miners, so they have no excuse.
When a miner is in violation, it's time to bump. What you are doing should be announced in local so as to inform other miners and set a good example. In the above picture, you see an example of a copy-pasta notification suitable for use. My typical one is a bit shorter, "You have violated the Code. Pay 10M or risk bump. See www.minerbumping.com for details." It's a matter of preference.
Bumpers have informed me that linking the website in local as pictured above is particularly useful in obtaining compliance, since the miners understand you're part of an organized effort, rather than a one-off bumper who will be gone tomorrow. Using the "www" in front of the website address makes it an automatic link. While you are bumping one miner, the other miners will be reading about the Code. Also, mission-runners and random passersby in system will also be directed to the website, which is a powerful recruitment tool. Many an Agent first became aware of the New Order simply by noticing the message while they were en route to Jita.
There you have it! You are now fully authorized and equipped to advance the cause of civilization across highsec.
I spent the last two days reading through all the posts on your website. Just wanted to say I love the role you're playing, keep up the great work!ReplyDelete
Was posting he Dilbert was in local and before I knew it a random local passer by joined the cause. Aakari is being saved as I tpye this.ReplyDelete
^^ Totally drunk when wrote this. =pDelete
There goes Dilbert Jenkins setting a beautiful example to the rest of us agents.ReplyDelete
"Your" on thin ice, Anonymous. Watch yourself.ReplyDelete
James 315 I hail you as an awesome provider of popcorn moments.ReplyDelete
The only "Popcorn Moments" James 315 is capable of consist of blasting popcorn balls from his colon. LOLZORWINZ!!!Delete
what will you do if he doesn't? Ban him from this sad excuse of a website? Go eat poop nuggets.ReplyDelete
This is ingenuous! They've already nerfed everything I once loved about this game. But I feel I may yet have a purpose... To enforce the code on the very scum that have caused the current state of the game.ReplyDelete
Inspired by and drawn towards the Cause, but alas being a Caldari pilot, I tried to find a substitute to the Stabber fit the best I could come up with is a Moa.ReplyDelete
Lows: 4x Power Diag System 2's
Mids: 100MN MWD and 3x Cap Battery 2's
Highs: Empty (strictly a bump ship, but could probably fit some guns for rats)
Rigs: Cap Control Curcuit 1, and 2x Ancilary Current Router 1's
Performance: Max speed is about 3.3km/s Problem is it takes 200km to reach that speed, and cap only lasts 1m30sec with my imperfect skills. Perfect skills makes the cap last 3minutes. Once cap is depleted, it takes 4-minutes to recharge to full.
Use: Warp to belt at 100km, find target, distance 200km from target with clear LOS, approach until max speed is reached, kick in MWD and hope he doesn't notice. Takes about a minute to reach target.
Results: I tested this in Osmon. Target's Mackinaw was AFK, so perfect alignment and approach was possible, providing for an optimal bump which sent the target 26km in the opposite direction. Not bad. It was fun watching her drones follow her all the way. It was also able to bump an Orca 20km. Perhaps pointless, but since it was shield repping a Mackinaw, I felt it served a small point.
Have you tried downsizing to a cruiser microwarpdrive?
If you intend to stick with Caldari cruisers, you could also try using the Caracal - I believe you'll get more speed out of it. For example,
-----CARACAL with Tank-----:
MID: 10mn mwd, 4x large shield extender
LOW: Damage control, 2x nanofiber, overdrive injector
RIG: auxiliary thrusters, anti-kinetic screen reinforcer, anti-thermal screen reinforcer
This gives me about 40k ehp against hybrid turrets, and 2200 speed. Overheating gives me 3060 speed. You could make this fit cap-stable by sacrificing tank.
-----CARACAL Capstable, less tank -----
MID: 10mn mwd, 1x Cap Recharger II, 3x large shield extender
LOW: damage control, 2x nanofiber, 1x capacitor power relay (meta4)
RIG: medium auxiliary thrusters, 2x medium capacitor control circuit
This gives me about 24k ehp against hybrid turrets, 2080 speed.
Still, I guess Stabber still reigns supreme...
MID: 10mn mwd, 3x large shield extender
LOW: damage control, 2x nanofiber, overdrive injector
RIG: anti-kinetic screen reinforcer, 2x anti-thermal screen reinforcer
36k ehp against hybrid turrets, 2800 speed (3970 overheated).
What are you? Five?ReplyDelete
James 315 is no idiot. He is Hi Sec's last beacon of hope in a bot-aspirant infested land. Your should be thanking him for hi courageReplyDelete
Ulrich Firelord - Breaker of Mountains
Hi..I was destroyed in my retriever in Hi Sec..My local chat was hide and i am new to EVE. I was very mad for getting podded. But i am not here to cry, agent that killed me was very polite and helpful. He described me how thing works and give me reference to this site. I read memos from this guy and to tell the truth i believe him. I believe in what he is doing and have great respect. I will follow the code and be part of the family. Tnx James for your causeReplyDelete
Quick question about this (as i do believe in the cause), i read constantly Agents saying they are invincible.ReplyDelete
i am fairly new(ish) and how is it that you enforce the permit, what is to stop someone from getting bumped and coming back in their shiny BC to gank you for bumping them? is it just the high EHP so you can survive long enough for them to get CONCORDed.
i just want to understand the mechanics so i can become an effective agent for the savior of HiSec.
Haha you're a Cunt!! Just let people enjoy the game!!ReplyDelete
Can you still suicide gankt hem after they pay the money or is that a breach of the code ?ReplyDelete
Read the code.Delete
A Permit is not enough to ensure safety. Code-Compliance is all important. If you have a permit but are AFK or Bot-Aspirant.... you can be righteously ganked.
Therefore you take people's money then blow them up for any reason you find fit. Yeah that's a cause to believe in. A group of lairs you are.Delete
You ganked me today, without stating your intentions in Local. You have violated your own code. You are therefore simply a cunt who is simply ruining the game for others.ReplyDelete
Where does it say about announcing intentions in local?Delete
"When a miner is in violation, it's time to bump. What you are doing should be announced in local so as to inform other miners and set a good example. "Delete
It's on this page!!! RTFS.
But the Anonymous at 8:51pm is complaining about being Ganked. This page is about bumping. Bumping is not Ganking. Ganking and Bumping are different.Delete
Quite often the kill mails from the Gank will be posted in Local, to inform other miners and set an example! And quite often the ganked miner will get sent a mail, so that when he comes back to his keyboard, he will know what happened and why!!
lol I find this site hilarious. the dude that started this site need to go outside and see the real world. Start with your back yard . Your dog probably long dead man . Eve ain't real at all man its a game. Come join RVBReplyDelete
I laughed my ass off, love ya :DDelete
Just another reason to get out of Hisec and afk mine in 0.0ReplyDelete
I've been playing EVE for several years, sticking strictly to high sec and building a massive 5 account manufacturing Empire. I now travel the space lanes carrying billions every day to various markets. Lately the game has started to tarnish, the fun has not given me the heart racing thrill that it used to, until a couple of months ago. Two of your agents appeared at a belt I was fleet mining with my max trained orca and 5 exhumers and proceeded to slag one of the exhumers. Once I realised what was happening my heart rate shot up and I desperately tried to remove my ships from the scene but alas, it was too late. Your agents cost me over 200 million ISK in a few short seconds.ReplyDelete
I didn't cry, I didn't complain to local. I studied the ships that killed me. I bought bpos for the ships and the weapons and started manufacturing them. I made lots of money from it. Still the rush wasn't there.
Then I thought back to the attack, how my heart had raced, my fingers trembled as I desperately fought the controls of my ships trying to escape the scene. Maybe this is what I needed? And so three new capsuleers were born. One to kill, one to clean and one as bait. Now we three roam the .5 systems looking for unsuspecting violaters of the glorious code! When a criminal is found, the bait lures the misguided minions of concord to a remote corner of the system, the cleaner moves in and stands ready, then finally the killer moves in and dispenses true justice! The thrill is beyond description! They may be afk miners with no defences, but the thrill is there, it's exciting, it's wonderful, it's magnificent! I will, with your permission of course, start to preach the CODE to these criminals, try to teach them the error of their ways. However if the responses of some of them in local chats are anything to go by, they will take a lot of 'education'.
So thankyou for blowing up my exhumer, thankyou for costing me 200 million ISK, and above all, thankyou for bringing back the THRILL OF EVE!!
What a self-written shit-Delete
Sooooo, you get pleasure and a thrill by killing defenseless people. Like Hitler, Like mass murderers, like that guy who shot up a school full of children. I understand its a game but there is still something deep down inside of you that enjoys such thoughts. Eventually you will get bored with the game and want to move onto larger targets, say animals. I hate to see where this road will lead you. I will pray for you.Delete
You are reading a 2.5 year old blog post, and commenting solely to compare the writer to Hitler.Delete
You may want to reexamine what you are doing with your life.
I am commenting on a 5 year old blog post, to mention that Hitler's intention was to remove innocent people from his country, albeit for racist reasons, not to kill them.Delete
It's also worth mentioning that when he sent them away on boats and trains to other countries, before the war even started proper, the other countries around the world sent them *back*.
James 315 wishes only that the Carebears and Miners perform their chosen roles in a way that adheres to the CODE. Nobody gets killed. According to EVE lore, clones provide immortality - an escape from death. And so, at worst, the CODE only inconveniences non-compliant players, just as your own government would fine you instead of execute you for minor infractions of real world law.
Lol sad excuses of lowlifes trying to make themselves happy i will personally gank u once i see u in local ;) with t2 btw fuck this website peaceReplyDelete
Why don't you come to Scheenins some time? My name is James Nikolas Tesla. I am a miner who doesn't even think the New Order even exists. Prove me wrong.ReplyDelete
I like you, got ballsDelete
I'm too lazy to log in, so sorry if my name is anonymous. I just want to reply to the other anonyms. (for my identity, see signature at the end of this reply)ReplyDelete
Before you start whining and ranting, please go and finish an English grammar course. Proper punctuation and appropriate use of words is crucial for making your point. If your comments are missing symbols (comma, question mark, full stop, semicolon, exclamation mark) or if you fail to follow the most basic grammar of the language (mixing up your and you're or there, their, they're, etc.) your comment will be ignored or - in most cases - laughed at, regardless the content.
Furthermore, randomly throwing in insults that blindly assume physical and mental disability as well as minor age or parental abuse, will result in increased hostility against you and your affiliates. Such behaviour will be met by random acts of violence against your mining buddies where destruction of your spacecraft will be guaranteed.
Finally, regardless of the OP's intentions, in my point of view, the above CODE applies to high-sec miners, who firmly believe in the false notion that Empire space and CONCORD assures usage of said systems as infinite ISK/real money milking source. Regardless weather you use a scripted software to assist you, or you sit in front of your computer 24/7. Should you wish to make great profits, you really should do so in a way that will actively benefit others instead of pursuing the most disgusting form of selfishness. The best method to do so is by leaving high-sec and joining a nullsec or wormhole alliance where your mining activities provide raw materials for your fellow alliance members, effectively helping them to build new combat ships. Mining in high-sec and selling your ores and minerals in Jita isn't only meaningless, it effectively damages the market as a whole. For clear proof, please refer to the recent inflation in PLEX prices.
Your senseless activity in high-sec not only annoys those who really play the game, but it is also a great blow to new players, who have increasing difficulty in getting into the game as even the smallest ship and module prices skyrocketed in recent months. This means, these new players have to find a way to earn more money than we, veterans had to several years ago; and in turn, it ultimately leads to the promotion of bot-mining, leading to a never-ending cycle.
Please respect the CODE posted by the OP, for if it was up to me, I would ban ALL mining activities from high-sec, shooting every single miner on sight, without warning, regardless of weather the victim is a legitimate miner or a bot.
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I love this !ReplyDelete
I think I have put off my moral obligation to enforce the code far too long... I'm making a suitable alt and buying a catalyst.ReplyDelete
just orbit the ice asteroid AFK -- bumping problem solvedReplyDelete
And the 6 times I've been ganked in a procurer while manning my ships, not afk. Then while aligned as soon as the fleet hits the grid on top of my personal bookmark I get exploded for this. And it did take a moment because I was defensive fit incase such a thing was tried. Supriesed that they could get through an 80% resist on all and a total of 43k ehp before concord could finish them. But don't worry! I laughed because the total cost to kill me was 3 or 4 derp cats filly fitted, than what I lost. Good job on losing money for one gank. But its only one.... Well no its been a several times. I keep local and all goins and code are orange. Not red because yall are are ppl to enacting on an idea that is believed to be better. I'm just trying to build my own ammo and ship so I don't have to buy it from other poor sap. That way I can sell the ships to the 0.0 people because I use to be goons till the betrail in branch happen. But enough venting about that. It was years ago. I don't like being exploded under the wrong idea. I'm not selling the ore. I'm using it to be damn use full for my corp with my corp so that we can make ship and fill up the sell order slots in jita. As well as a few hi-sec low-sec boarder systems for those who do friget pvp in low.ReplyDelete
I digress now, I do think its cool you all are trying to make eve better by getting ride of the damn bot players things, and the afkers and just givin the "this is eve, if ur gonna do it do it right, because this isn't WoW or some other ever day MMO"!
I love Eve, and I'm going to stick with what I like to do in the game, because to me what I do in Eve, this is Eve to me. This is what I think about while I'm at work. Eve in general and overall is my hobby, my second life, my to go to game, my listed favorite game, and without Eve I know i would be really board playing garbage games and not know what its like to play a MMO where its like I was really there.
Your US Tier 2 Cellular Technician.
Tonight was the first I had ever heard of these idiots, I have to say that they are nothing short of in game bullies who think it is funny to bully miners into paying them ISK. School yard bullies get suspended from school, perhaps CCP should look at this and suspend these idiots. No I am not a miner I just happened to be in high sec roaming tonight when I saw in local some snotty nosed brat sprouting off that a miner was in violation of the code and insisted he/she pay ISK for a fucking permit. I would have told you to go and fuck yourself personally.ReplyDelete
So here is something for you morons to consider.
We will now be doing a lot of high sec roaming, purely to find you dickheads and wipe you off the grid. We will continue to do so until you are wiped from EvE existence just like we have done with many a corp and alliance in the past, we will not stop now until you and this pathetic school boy bully idea is gone.
I bid you good day, see you dickwads on the grid!!
So much rage, so much empty promise. Go back to paying your taxes to your betters little miner.Delete
What will Alpha clones mean for future agents of the code?ReplyDelete
Lol this is the funniest shit I have ever saw on any game. How about this go out to RL and do something useful. Stopping running from the big mean bullies that keep you in your parents basement and do yourself a favor get a girl friend.ReplyDelete
I do sincerely hope you will follow your own advice and work to improve your language and writing skills. When I read an idiotic mistake like 'Regardless weather you...', it stops me from taking you seriously. I'm going to guess you weren't going to talk about the weather, but we're trying to show us you indifference to certain behaviour. (I know you are stupid so I'll just tell you: It is whether, not weather)
P.S. Apart from the obvious bad spelling and punctuation, your stylistic mistakes are beyond trying to repair.
so cool, u shoot him. I dont like this Adolf.H. stuff "new Order" ....ReplyDelete
in game isn't real life.ReplyDelete
I´m wondering.... what if i use a mining barge to bump other mining barges? would a battleship be too overkill for that too?ReplyDelete
i paid for a permit and posted it to my bio and you guys still blew me up not more than ten minutes later. wtf. i want an explanation. this is not following the code.ReplyDelete
So you write in here that you talk to people and if they dont respond or pay they will get shot.ReplyDelete
as you see in comments above people still get shot after paying or even get shot whitout talking. new players who dont know about your society loose all the stuff they earned and you dont get more isk because they cant pay. your agents become angry if you have questions because they dont send you informations about all this. had to search your page by myself. there are lots of differences how your people treat others and thats why just a few people know about them and treat them with respect.