Thursday, February 28, 2013

Slow Friends in Nullsec

A peaceful day of bumping and ganking in Kamio, a popular ice mining system in Caldari highsec, when suddenly...


Galadriel Vasquez spent much time complaining about the New Order's activities. When her patience finally ran out, she called in the big guns.


Galadriel is a member of Curatores Veritatis Alliance (more commonly known as "CVA"). It is perhaps the oldest nullsec alliance still in existence. Like so many other members of nullsec alliances, Galadriel was drawn to highsec--increasingly the generator of all income in EVE.


At first, Galadriel was interested in retaliating against the New Order by encouraging CVA to declare war against us.


But when she investigated further, she discovered we are not a thing to be trifled with.


On the bright side, Galadriel didn't compare us to the Nazis.


The New Order faced imminent peril from suicide-ganking Tornadoes, courtesy of Galadriel's powerful friends in nullsec. Was this the end of the New Order?


Tensions rose. Would the CVA gank fleet arrive in time to deliver the decisive blow? Or would they never show up, because they didn't exist?


Meanwhile, I gently nudged miner Khan Martin out of an asteroid belt. He was somewhat familiar with the permit process already--he just needed that extra push.


Galadriel was horrified to watch the New Order extract its fee from a miner. How dare we take advantage of the short window of opportunity before the Tornado fleet arrived?


Her efforts to discourage payment were in vain. The New Order won another glorious victory.


Infuriated, Galadriel created a meme. It showed off the characteristic rebel crudity:


The image strikes such a contrast to the beautiful artwork of our Agents! You can see the futility and ignorance in the meme's eyes. Ultimately, the Tornado fleet never did appear, and Galadriel withdrew from Kamio without explanation. The New Order would live to see another day. Another close call!

34 comments:

  1. Y u no use "Y u no guy"-meme correctly? =(

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    1. Don't be too demanding, she didn't even use the "humor" concept correctly.

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    2. Man, I was so going to post that same comment, but then work stuff pulled me away and now it'd be an unfunny repost!

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    3. Ha I thought the same thing. Fail meme use is fail.

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  2. Hey, that is one of my allies you are talking about James. And I'll have you know we are at war currently, with Pod Repo. The meme I will not get behind however. My only advice is that don't crow about victory just yet, that would be counting your chickens before they hatch.

    ---Alistair Drake

    P.S. I wouldn't know if I would be involved in any CVA operations against you or not, being a new member.

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    1. I forgot to add that it would be up to alliance leadership whether the alliance declared war on you or not. And that is never a guaranteed thing.

      ---Alistair

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    2. He protects himself from war decks by staying in a single man.corp and dropping corp on a Dec. Can you say coward and bully?

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    3. There's little point in declaring wars, when the defender can opt-out at any time by dropping / reforming corp.

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    4. Is anyone else aware James is part of his own corp and the CODE. alliance?

      ---Alistair

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    5. @Alistair

      I had heard rumours about this, but haven't had a chance yet to verify the rumours. Should it turn out to be true that thise CODE. Alliance exists, it would make a great target for those seeking to land a mighty blow against the New Order! But who among the rebels would dare take such a bold risk?

      The rebellion needs a leader! I nominate myself, for this position!

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    6. @Aria

      Just look in my-EVE, it is right there, I had already looked.


      ---Alistair

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    7. Actually, that is EVE-Gate, not my-EVE, my bad.

      ---A.D.

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  3. "At first, Galadriel was interested in retaliating against the New Order by encouraging CVA to declare war against us."
    Do you actually have proof of this, or is it just more huffy talk? Cause you have no problem showing pictures of other things transpiring in local, so where's this war-dec threat. I'm looking in alliance and corp and forum, and I'm not seeing anything.
    -Bantara

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    1. I see, no proof. I find in interesting which comments NO chooses to respond to, and which they don't.

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    2. Audrik VillalonaMarch 6, 2013 at 6:09 PM

      "At first, Galadriel was interested in retaliating against the New Order by encouraging CVA to declare war against us."

      That is a reasonable inference from the screenshots from local which have already been posted. It's rather hilarious that you call a reasonable inference 'huffy talk', when the screenshots provide a real example of actual 'huffy talk'. When one makes a statement about someone else's 'interest in something', a reasonable inference is the best one can do. If you want ironclad 100% proof, even that person swearing that statement on the bible is insufficient, as people are very capable of lying about their desires.

      "I'm looking in alliance and corp and forum, and I'm not seeing anything."

      Why would there be anything there? The statement was about a transient desire of an alliance member, that didn't amount to anything. Do you have a post for every transient desire of every alliance member? That would be trillions of posts per year about sandwiches and hot girls.

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    3. "The statement was about a transient desire of an alliance member,"
      Thank you for proving my point for me. A grunt of a coalition declares his interest in waging a war, and nothing from anyone in leadership. Yet...

      "...she called in the big guns." No, he didn't. Just a grunt with a desire.

      "At first, Galadriel was interested in retaliating against the New Order by encouraging CVA to declare war against us." James apparently arrived at this spin via the quote, "hmmm brb". While encouraging a war dec is not explicitly something he couldn't have been doing, *so many* other alternatives remain possible that landing on any particular one is being irresponsible with the facts.

      "The New Order faced imminent peril from suicide-ganking Tornadoes, courtesy of Galadriel's powerful friends in nullsec." "Would the CVA gank fleet arrive in time to deliver the decisive blow?" Was there other dialog James decided not to include which proves that (1) the Tornado gang was coming from null-sec? Could it not have been coming from the other side of hi-sec? And (2) that the gang was indeed CVA? And I'll even accept any other holder alliance, doesn't have to be CVA specifically.

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    4. "Thank you for proving my point for me." ""...she called in the big guns." No, he didn't. Just a grunt with a desire."

      All I've proved is that you're unable to read.

      Read the very first screenshot again. Galadriel says that there is a death squad being assembled to come kill the New Order. The death squad is "the big guns". L2read.

      "While encouraging a war dec is not explicitly something he couldn't have been doing, *so many* other alternatives remain possible that landing on any particular one is being irresponsible with the facts."

      Except you yourself just interpreted it the same way: "A grunt of a coalition declares his interest in waging a war, and nothing from anyone in leadership."

      Your own words prove you a liar.

      "(1) the Tornado gang was coming from null-sec? Could it not have been coming from the other side of hi-sec? And (2) that the gang was indeed CVA? And I'll even accept any other holder alliance, doesn't have to be CVA specifically."

      She said 24 jumps. Your questions 1 and 2 are frankly insane. The gang NEVER CAME. The gang was IMAGINARY. You are seriously asking us to prove that the gang came from nullsec, and was composed of nullseccers? The gang DIDN'T EXIST. I'm sorry, but I'm done replying to someone so clearly out of his/her mind. Please, seek help from a mental health professional, ASAP.

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    5. And you've proven yourself to be another one of those shithead players that give Eve such a bad rap.

      I can read. What I don't do is *jump to conclusions.* "Big guns" does not mean CVA. Come on, we're talking about CVA here, not PL.

      I am not a liar. I did not interpret it the same way, I said that while the statement does not exclude the possibility, it also doesn't exclude others. i.e.: You are again jumping to conclusions, while I am not. There was no deception or dishonesty in that statement.

      Third, the fact that the gang never arrived doesn't prove a thing. It is equally as possible that he was blowing smoke up your ass as it is that the fleet was detoured by a war target, or that it was recalled to deal with a real problem at home(cause frankly, you all may be bully extortionists, but you're not a real problem,), or that he and others completely intended to follow through but were overrided. James's blog allows for NONE of these possiblities, which is just propaganda, but you either believe it hook line and sinker or you're a tool in the propaganda. But most importantly and it bears repeating--It does not prove that the gang was imaginary. Again, you have leaped to a conclusion w/o sufficient proof.

      You, 'sir', have a hard time distinguishing between facts and beliefs. If anyone needs professional help, it is you.

      And most importantly, if this is the kind of 'logical' thinking that goes on in James's blog, what does that say about his manifestos?

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    6. Audrik VillalonaMarch 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM

      You've added vulgar language to your barrage of lies. I bid you good day, sir.

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    7. psm: You need to realize that most of what James pretends to believe is for the sake of the roleplay, nobody here actually believes that anything the miner said was true. It can be induced that this miner was lying, and that the gang did not exist; indeed, invoke Occam's Razor and that's what you'd get.

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  4. Talking of slow where are the New Order based now so I can visit.
    I could wait until they conquer highsec but I'm afraid I have only a few plexes left :(.

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    1. You don't "get" the New Order.

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    2. I do. They are a little comedy act who get their ships blown up to provide me with amusement. However they are very busy people who cannot visit me to stop me making isk so I need to move to them so I can enable them and also watch the comedy show that is the New Order. Where is the New Order? Are they still in highsec?

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    3. Trustworthy New Order locator agentMarch 1, 2013 at 8:39 PM

      VFK. Come here quick, before we move again.

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  5. highsec--increasingly the generator of all income in EVE.

    [dubious][citation needed]

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    1. Audrik VillalonaMarch 1, 2013 at 8:38 PM

      The delicious irony of an anonymous poster asking for verifiable references.

      I'd ask you what categories of citations you would deem acceptable, but I don't know who you are, so there hardly seems to be a point.

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    2. Reasoned discourse doesn't work that way. If you make an assertion you must provide evidence to support that assertion. My anonymity doesn't release you from this burden.

      Any evidence that proves that highsec is the generator of all income in eve would be sufficient. I'll also accept evidence that income in highsec is increasing proportional to other regions of the game as well.


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    3. Reasoned discourse, in general, doesn't work on minerbumping. If one questions the validity of anything here, personal attacks will be spewed forth and your request or point will go unanswered. Take Audrik Villalona above as the perfect example. He makes no attempt to give a citation, instead he just attacks the OP. It's standard behaviour for people who are of low intelligence and / or have no ability for rational discourse.

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  6. I was under the impression that CVA was a null sec NRDS paradise for nullbears. Why need ice so far away from there?

    Plus, I think you guys state the risk from CVA overdramatically. Unless that pilot was some big head honcho, no one is going to head 20 + or more jumps for some random pubbie grunt in any alliance. Particularly in hi sec.

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    1. I think James was being tongue-in-cheek regarding the risk of hostile actions from CVA.

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    2. I'm going to share this post with my corp mates and see what they think. Maybe they can shed some light on who Galadriel is.

      ---Alistair

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    3. @Anon -- First, your impression is incorrect. Just like any other sov-holding 0.0 alliance of any size, there are a wide range of player types in CVA's ranks. There are plenty of pure pew-pew pilots in CVA. (Not counting against them their chosen ways of generating isk for pvp.)

      Secondly, you are correct that James is overdramatizing the threat from CVA w/o some kind of official war dec. James is doing that on purpose. He isn't stupid, but he knows some of his readers are, and will be easily influenced by propaganda techniques.
      -Bantara

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  7. Don't judge Galadriel too harshly (depite that awful meme)... defending the downtrodden is in his blood :p

    Now, if this was somewhere in the Amarrian Empire...

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