Saturday, April 27, 2013

CSM8 Results Announced

CCP has just announced the results of the CSM8 election! You can view the names of the winning candidates here, but why go to the trouble? I'll just copy-paste them on this post for you. The members of CSM8 will be (in alphabetical order):

Ali Aras, Chitsa Jason, James Arget, Kesper North, Korvin, Malcanis, Mangala Solaris, Mike Azariah, mynnna, progodlegend, Ripard Teg, Sala Cameron, Sort Dragon, and Trebor Daehdoow.

If you want to look up more information on the candidates, the page I linked lists the winners' names, corp/alliance membership, and links their EVEgate profiles. Now let's take a closer look at the CSM8 results. How did the election go?

Long story short, it was a knockout win for organized voting, especially nullsec bloc voting. Nullsec bloc candidates took the lion's share of the seats. The highly-organized wormhole community took an additional two seats. Of the few "independent" candidates who won, Mangala Solaris of RvB was also included on the nullsec bloc lists.

I wouldn't be surprised if these results trigger another overhaul of the voting system prior to the CSM9 elections. Carebears have already begun the waterworks on EVE-O. Many observers predicted nullsec dominance, but CCP had other ideas. Remember CCP Dolan's analysis of the STV system?
"One of the things that's wonderful about Wright-STV is that it greatly, greatly lessens the advantage of being organized... It greatly decreases the power of 0.0 blocs."
What was a bit of a surprise to CSM-watchers was the sharp decrease in turnout. Voter turnout had risen over the past few CSM elections, but CSM8 suffered a drop of about 16% in raw numbers. Since EVE subscriptions have risen quite a bit since the last election, the turnout drop as a percentage was even more severe. You might recall that Xander Phoena of CrossingZebras frequently debated CCP reps on this point, warning that the complicated voting system would depress an already-low turnout. This election's drop seems to vindicate Xander, as well as other CSM skeptics, such as The Mittani.

What else can we glean about the character of CSM8? A lot of good candidates won, including mynnna, Malcanis, and Chitsa Jason, among many others. But not all of them did. Psychotic Monk, a MinerBumping favorite for his highsec shenanigans, didn't prevail. Though nullsec bloc voting was overwhelmingly powerful, it was not omnipotent; candidates like Kaleb Rysode and Banlish didn't make it on, either.

Though much less carebear-friendly than previous CSMs, the bears weren't entirely shut out. Mike Azariah, perhaps the only true "wildcard" candidate who defied the conventional wisdom with his win, is a proponent of nerfing suicide ganking. Meanwhile, notorious carebear champion Trebor Daehdoow won reelection, as expected. And popular blogger Ripard Teg, of course, had no trouble winning a seat of his own. He has described himself as undecided as to whether "unfair" wardecs should be removed from the game. Now he'll have the opportunity to make up his mind--to see reason or to become a "+1" for all of Trebor's bad ideas.

The chairman of CSM8 was not announced, since that will be determined by a vote among the CSM8 members themselves. When I was invited to be included on the CFC bloc lists, I was told that the bloc candidates who won CSM seats would also be organizing to maximize the chance of picking the chairman. It might be interesting to see who wins the chairman seat, though in the past it has generally been viewed as a figurehead position.

CCP did announce the winners of the two "permanent" Iceland seats: mynnna and Ripard Teg were the two top vote-getters. As the official Goonswarm candidate, mynnna was expected by all to get the most votes. Ripard's win shouldn't come as too much of a surprise either, since he has the most name recognition of any of the candidates. (Indeed, one might say he was the only candidate who carried a lot of name recognition among the EVE community at large--though I still think he would have gotten even more votes had he run on an alt named "Jester Trek".)

As a side note, Trebor has expressed his desire to be chairman. He would presumably hope that his friend Ripard, whom he has mentored throughout this process, would repay his loyalty by supporting him in that endeavor. But since Ripard got more votes than Trebor (probably a lot more votes), shouldn't Trebor be supporting Ripard for chairman instead? Especially since Trebor has already had several CSM terms to prove his worth by now? Actually, forget I asked. We don't need to be encouraging any infighting among the carebear contingent.

So there you have it! A hearty congratulations to those candidates who won seats on the CSM (aside from the carebears, who needn't be encouraged). For those who ran but didn't win, my condolences (again, unless you're pro-carebear). If, after observing the activities of CSM8, you are still eager for the job, your experience in running this time will have built a good foundation upon which to make a second attempt.

85 comments:

  1. Awww, James doesn't like playstyles outside his own.

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    1. He doesn't like people who intend to destroy his playstyle. That's a bit different.

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    2. you mean like he intends to destroy theirs? or am i confusing greedy goblin with him? one or the other said some thing about replace industrialists with NPC's.

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    3. You sound confused. AFK-ing and botting isn't a playstyle, it's a way of obtaining benefits without playing.

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    4. We're not confused.

      The New Order has popped ATK miners just because they mine too much, or because they don't want to bow to extortion by purchasing a permit.

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    5. I fail to see how popping AFK miners is in any way impressive or smart.
      I guess PvP standards have reached an all time low.

      Likewise, I can't think of any sane reason to think that whatever is happening in high-sec is a threat to low/null sec.

      I can guess why someone would want to kill noobs and pretend it's a noble cause but I don't file that as impressive.

      Cowardly, maybe. Lazy, certainly. Impressive...No.

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    6. It's our preferred style of play. We don't understand how AFK mining is in anyway impressive or smart either.

      On a side note, you should see the changes coming to mining over the next few years. CCP showed us a great prototype for mining changes at fanfest.

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    7. Do you turn your skill que off when you are afk? If not then you should consider yourself one of those detestable people you want to kill.

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    8. @anon 2:28 AM.

      No, I don't; and no I shouldn't. I don't mind if you turn your skill off while you're afk, though.

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    9. Anon 2:28, skill training is not something you do while in space. You even do it while offline. Mining, however, is something you can only do while online, and only while in space with your ship.

      You can't compare skilling with AFK mining.

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  2. Not going to discuss Ali Aras? She isn't not-nullsec, but she sure isn't part of the big blue bloc either.

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    1. If "the big blue bloc" refers to CFC/HBC, I would credit them with capturing 5 seats (Kesper North, Malcanis, mynnna, Sala Cameron, and Sort Dragon). Their voting lists also included at least three other winners, though they were lower on the lists and probably didn't rely on CFC/HBC for their votes.

      Other nullsec blocs won seats as well: N3 (progodlegend), Provibloc (Ali Aras), and Russian bloc (Korvin). The wormhole bloc won two seats: Chitsa Jason and James Arget.

      I would classify Ripard Teg and Trebor Daehdoow as independent nullsec candidates. The two highsec independents would be Mangala Solaris (despite being on the HBC/CFC lists) and Mike Azariah.

      Based on my classifications, nullsec blocs won 8/14 seats and nullsec candidates won 10/14 seats. Genuine bloc voting (null or wormhole) took 10/14 seats. If we disqualify Mangala Solaris, then Mike Azariah would be the only independent candidate coming from highsec. No lowsec winners.

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    2. Wow!!!! Look everyone. A comment from James 315 himself! James 315 supporters are probably too busy masturbating to actually comment at the moment.

      Good to see you justifying your inaccurate and biased nonsense by arbitrarily assigning blocs to the elected candidates. Brilliant. I'm sure your supporters will swallow every last drop of it. They won't want to let any of it dribble down their bearded chins.

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    3. Sexually frustrated much crompdaddy?

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    4. It's okay, crompdaddy isn't used to dealing with people, so we get his socially awkward comments instead.

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    5. 0/10 Playing with peoples names because you're too stupid to manage anything else.

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    6. LOL I totally don't understand these anti James 315 carebears.
      It's like they're trying to make EVE into something it's not.

      James 315 ftw.

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  3. Carebear contingent? Really? You're way more carebear than Ripard Teg. He fights in Syndicate, you mine AFK miner hulls. Too bad you were too scared to run, suck it up and shut it up.

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    1. Show us on the doll where we touched your Mackinaw.

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    2. Good to see Agent Trask adding some in-depth content to this site. It certainly needs it.

      P.S. For future reference, the whole "show me where you were touched on this doll" meme is nonsensical and retarded when you're asking someone to show where a mackinaw was "touched". It is probably the most idiotic thing to have ever been posted on the internet. Be proud.

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    3. Agent Trask - 1
      Crompton Buffer - mad

      ROUND TWO!

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    4. Mad as in angry, or mad as in insane? Or both? Do be more explicit next time!

      P.S. For future reference, doing some kind of scoring thing where you use an integer and an adjective for scalable comparative values is nonsensical and retarded. You'll be glad to know it's not quite the most idiotic thing to have ever been posted on the internet, but close though.

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    5. Here there be trolls

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    6. "Do be more explicit next time!"

      Being explicit is for children or porn, depending on which definition of explicit you're using. Careful you don't use the wrong one with the wrong group above, or you'll go to prison for a long time. Which one are you, child or porn star?

      "You'll be glad to know it's not quite the most idiotic thing to have ever been posted on the internet, but close though."

      #1 in that category is "For future reference, doing some kind of scoring thing where you use an integer and an adjective for scalable comparative values is nonsensical and retarded. "

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    7. Alana Charen-Teng - 1
      Crompton Buffer - madder

      ROUND THREE!

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    8. WTF are you waffling on about anon?

      The most common usage of the word explicit is defined as:
      "fully and clearly expressed or demonstrated; leaving nothing merely implied; unequivocal"

      Which perfectly fits the context used by Crompton. You stupid inbred twat of pedo.

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    9. but Alana, he's got you to reply twice. so its more

      Crompton Buffer - 2
      Alana Charen-Teng - sucker

      ROUND SUCKER!

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    10. I'm in Syndicate. Doesn't that mean that since I'm in Syndicate, that NO is in Syndicate as well? Being a representative of NO and all.

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    11. Note that the carebears posting here are still playing anon games, still butt-hurt about their losses, and that Crompton Fluffer still refuses to show us on the doll where we touched his barge.

      And they are STILL ice mining without permits.

      It's like that old bear joke ... a hunter gets raped three times by bears instead of being able to kill a bear in three hunting seasons, and during his fourth raping the bear involved asks him, "You aren't really here to hunt, are you?"

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    12. yo momma so poor, when she clicks 'place buy order' in the market browser, it just laughs at her!

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    13. WTF are you waffling on about other .0. pseudo-anonymous ?

      "Which perfectly fits the context used by Crompton."

      Who said it didn't?

      "You stupid inbred twat of pedo."

      I'm under 18, and you're referring to me with a term used for genitalia, which makes you the pedo, mister.

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    14. yo momma so fat, she's categorized as a Large Collidable Object on the overview!

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    15. yo momma so ugly, Sansha Kuvakei created a prettier version of her and called it the Revenant!

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    16. 0/10 terrible jokes in place of quality debate.

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    17. The original post already buried any chance of a quality debate.

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    18. When I want quality debates, I go to the internet!

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  4. the rest of us are wondering why Trash needs to compare himself to pedo.

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    1. The rest of us are wondering why miners keep coming back here, and keep min ing without a permit.

      The only conclusion I can come to is that you miners enjoy it.

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    2. 0/10 Trying to deflect attention away from your own pedo tendencies by calling people miners is as sad as it gets.

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    3. You're calling someone else "sad" after using the word "pedo" to insult him? Really? Please stop for a moment and think about the way you're using the internet in your life.

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  5. in the essence of fairness, if all the trolls could please link us urls of their blogs, webpages, and whatever factual information & effort theyve put into debunking and contradicting James and his opinions.
    otherwise, shut the fuck up and go back to playing with yourselves in the corner.

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    1. -Anon 9:07
      im very certainly a carebear. im ok with it.
      im in highsec, with the noncompliant miners, bumping them out of their stupor, and then offering the chance to save themselves from themselves. Permit tank is certainly the best tank!
      Im also certainly VERY rude. real life spilling over into the game right there...
      but im not angry. just hoping that the trolls will come out from under their bridges and show the backbone to put a fact with an opinion so people can respect it. the New Order places high stock in respect. it has to be earned.
      and im certainly NOT adorable, not by any stretch of the imagination.

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    1. I hadn't realized Rennseslear was a carebear. He's certainly rude and angry though. Wouldn't call it adorable though.

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    2. Lrn2thread. It's not as hard as AFK mining, so you should be able to sort it out if you can be bothered to try.

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    3. I agree with Trask. Fawn, Lrn2thread ffs, then we can easily see that you're talking about Rennseslear's angry post.

      Thanks for the info Trask, I didn't know Fawn Tailor was an AFK miner too. Boy is shit coming out of the woodwork in this thread! Does he gank others in the same belt as him so he can get all the roids for himself? Cheeky little fucker aint he!

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    4. Wow, you know you're in trouble when the Carebears pull out the old, "I know you are, but what am I?" routine.

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    5. Oh Fawn! You're now calling Trask a carebear too? WTF! So Fawn, when Trask told you it was easier to Lrn2thread than AFK mine, was he just joking? Or was he really saying that you AFK mine? Do you AFK mine, Fawn? Also, are you saying Trask is a carebear get back at him? I know he uses many a dodgy "routine", but that's no reason to make stuff up about him now is it?

      You guys might want to consider calming down a bit and providing some proof for all of your AFK mining / carebear accusations that you throw around. I'm sure you wouldn't throw such accusations around when you have zero evidence of such things. I'm also sure You wouldn't want people to think you're just childishly name calling for the sake of it now would you!

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    6. 0/10 broken-record-style-troll is so last millenium

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  7. "He fights in Syndicate, you mine AFK miner hulls." Because we all know James has no history in nullsec. Right? But please go on, it's quite entertaining.

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    2. James specialized for years in financial prevarication PvP as a somethingawful.com member and goon associate.

      His current actions certainly have the carebears screaming, and have put nearly 70 billion ISK in his pocket ( which I hope he spends on booze, donuts, and whores when he gets bored with this ).

      This is certainly more impressive than flying in a goonwaffe fleet, and hitting F1 when the FC wakes you from your drunken stupor.

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    3. I remember a few of his Megathrons winding up on killboards during the goon wars with Band of Brothers, too. He's been fleet ops, just as he's waged one-man terror campaigns.

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  8. Mannnn.... Why do I get the feeling this CSM will be 'business as usual'... Why did you withdraw james whyyyy D:

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    1. Because even with James315 on the CSM, it would still be business as usual.

      And if he broke the NDA and tried to fight CCP, he would simply get permabanned, and threaten with legal action if he talked about why.

      Once you sign the NDA, you are CCP's bitch. Simple.

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  9. I'm gonna love making James 315 my bitch. I have a plan and I'm coming for you James yes it will take time you have about one year left to have fun. Oh and I've never been ganked by you or your sheep and I'm not butt hurt in any way. You're a religious nut and I hate religion and just wanna see you die. I'm looking forward to creating some real evil emergent content.

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    1. A year? Miners are famous for the "going to get you. not now. but real soon" ploy. But a year? Why not give yourself until Eve is 20 just to make sure you aren't rushed.

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    2. You're right Lenda, the anonymous miner should have a more reasonable timeframe like five years at the least! Ten years does seem better though.

      I am certain that everyone in the New Order of Highsec is scared of what is coming... one day... in the future... eventually... maybe.

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    3. I care not for you other vermin, only James soft, luscious lips will do.

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    4. When you come up with a great long term plan, you don't announce it. When you do announce a long term plan, it's because it is an empty threat or you're not smart enough to realize you should not announce it. In that last case, you're not smart enough to come up with a successful long term plan anyway. Conclusion: in any case, your plan is crap.

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    5. @3:39 cry me some more bile I do find it so delicious

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    6. Explaining fallacies is not crying. If you want me to cry, you should take down the New Order, as you announced. So get on it and try. Less words, more facts!

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    7. Raspberries to you good sir... want some dick? I can go on with this insanity forever. Let see how long you like licking the turd.

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    8. 9:08 PM
      > Explaining fallacies is not crying.

      Actually, just posting on this site under the Anonymous pseudonym is sufficient for most minerbumping.com fans to clench their fists, stamp their feet and claim you are a crying carebear who is irrelevant because you haven't made up a fictitious name for yourself. So...

      * puts on minerbumping hat *

      @ anon 9:08 PM
      Hahaha oh the delicious carebear tears, oh your tears are delicious and you are crying so much. You are so angry it's adorable, oh carebear tears are the best tears etc. etc. etc.

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    9. "I hate religion and just wanna see you die"

      So I wonder how he'd feel about a New Order Agent who in real life was enrolled in seminary to become a Pastor.

      This should be interesting.

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    10. He should die in a fire...

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  10. Because unlike you my dear, I am not a cave man frothing at the lips over my meal, I am a connoisseur. I savor every move in this game of chess. You make think I'm a miner but I am not. True I did years ago slave away in the asteroid belts, but I found staring at rocks all day to be rather drab.
    I'm just doing what James has done, and that is finding another way to have fun in this cruel universe that is EVE. I'm an EVE stalker welcome to my play style. I believe even James himself will find this fun.

    PS. Your troll tears are so yummy, keep them coming.

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  11. Please I beg you do not refer to me as a miner. Really shooting rocks with a laser, tis a job not game. And why do you think I choose to do it this way? James has so much "I'm going to get you" miner agro with zero actual retaliation that he has become complacent. He even thinks himself invincible, what a silly thought. I do relish his madness as I do my own. But the point is he will sit in his ivory tower "bumping" miners and think I am safe, but his day of reckoning will come at my hands. He will not know the day or the hour but it will come and he will cry, if only on the inside and they will be tears of joy even that I am released him from his madness.

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    1. *Hands Anon 8:04 the Mackinaw doll*

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    2. What are you doing still playing with dolls at your age? Time to grow up maybe...

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    3. People unable to get what they want like to imagine a future in which they get what they want. It's just fantasy, but it gives them some relief.

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    4. Are you saying I can't play this way? I want to be a space mad man. James is a space cult leader. You can't say he can do that and I cannot do this. I have the right to and you will not stop me.

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    5. You stop yourself so well, why would anyone else step in?

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    6. Audrik Villalona I thus declare you an enemy of the turd... Ah how I love the taste of dung in the afternoon with tea

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    7. But seriously how long are you guys going to wet hump this thread with me? Perhaps you are already losing! Didn't your mammy tell you its pointless to argue with a mad man.

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    8. You argue with yourself so well, why would anyone else step in?

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    9. Oh damn now now sugar bunny don't tease me about cyclic backtalk. Mommy says tis not the good way to talk to myself. But the voices in my head they never seem to stop. Will you good sir please take my pain? Please I beg you...

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    10. The voice in your head is me, fool. Smarten up or you're going to a very hot place.

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  12. /me hands Anon 8:04 his meds.

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  13. OMFG stop feeding the goddamn troll

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    1. ...do you know where you are?

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    2. Ladies... please do not fight over me. Have a seat shall we have a drink? Quinine ah yes bitter like liver juice I'm so glad you two joined me, I'm ever so lonely, but oh how I ramble on how's ya father?

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    3. This motherfucker has got some loose screws.

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    4. yo momma so fat, she needs a cyno alt to get around her Captain's quarters!

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    5. Yo momma so fat, she swallowed a titan. We set up a cyno on her stomach, but the beacon was out of range. We tried to set up a halfway cyno with a needle, but there wasn't enough tritanium in the universe to make a needle long enough. We tried flushing the titan out with moongoo, and CCP had to buff moongoo so much to make enough that Akita T's brain exploded. The moongoo just made her fatter and the titan was still stuck in her, so we told the titan pilot to eject and self-destruct the pod, and we'd get the titan later once we had more Jovian technology. He accidentally hit 'bridge' instead of eject, and yo momma landed on Delve, destroying it completely.

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