Joden Ka > high sec used to be free when i last played....and this code didn't existJoden was now surrounded by good EVE players: Agents of the New Order. The miner was having trouble adjusting to the new highsec, so our Agents drew his attention to some of the positive changes.
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > yes, there have been many changes for the better
Joden Ka > oh really
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > now highsec has a Savior
Alt 00 > \0/
Mr Xofar > \o/
Alt 00 > 'The Saviour of Highsec'It time for Joden to stop griping and start giving money to the Agents. But he was not yet ready.
Joden Ka > seems like a bully to me telling people they cant mine and go afk without special permission
Jeyne Farrow > Joden Ka please be respectful on this server, as we have been to you
Jeyne Farrow > now, would you like me to send over a permit?
Joden Ka > hold on
Joden Ka > i've been called a liarEven a villain may consider himself the hero of his own story. Take the AFK miners, for instance. They see themselves as the good guys!
Joden Ka > and ignorant
Joden Ka > just because i don't know of this code of yours
Alt 00 > Joden Ka we are the real victims here - you have purchased a permit and then turned your back on the Code of Contact
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > Your state of poverty is unfortunate. We are here to help you nonetheless.Agents of the New Order are experts at many things. One of their greatest strengths is their ability to enjoy EVE. Highsec miners are usually lacking in that department.
Joden Ka > lol
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > That's the spirit
Joden Ka > no
Joden Ka > that wasn't a laugh of joy
Alt 00 > Joden Ka why are you not happy? You gotto PVP with us in a PVP gameThe miner didn't see the fun in PvP, which is EVE's raison d'être. You know, it's pretty hard to enjoy a game if you don't like its raison d'être.
Joden Ka > do not patronize me
Mr Xofar > Undocking is consent to PvP
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > Let's assume the problem was not malice, but merely ignorance.
Joden Ka > bs
Joden Ka > undocking in low sec is open pvpJoden believed highsec was supposed to be safe. Our Agents pitied him. The EVE tutorial and new player experience had failed him--but they wouldn't.
Psycho-Bob > actually undocking is pvp
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > undocking anywhere is open pvp
Joden Ka > high sec is supposed to be safe
Psycho-Bob > nope
Alt 00 > Violating the Code is effectively a request for PVP
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > Whatever the root cause of your non-compliance, at the end of the day it is your non-compliance that is the issue.Our Agents are also experts at problem-solving. They wanted the miner to move forward, not wallow in self-pity and reimbursement requests.
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > We are past the point of excuse making.
Joden Ka > excuse making?
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > Now, we can proceed with rectifying your non-compliance, or we can leave that to the Enforcement Division.
Joden Ka > enforcement division?
Joden Ka > i pay for this game
Joden Ka > nobody else
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > miner, please calm downOf course, the first step in solving any problem is to calm down. Joden was clearly struggling.
Psycho-Bob > "The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is full time PvP in a sandbox environment. As has been mentioned in previous sections any player can engage another player at any time in any place." ccp new player faq
Joden Ka > i'm about as calm as an irishman can be
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > That's good to hear.
Joden Ka > not really
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > However, even if you pay for the game, you are not free to mine the Saviour's ore without a mining permit.For some reason, Joden had a bad attitude about me. I can't imagine why; I've never even met him. Actually, that's probably a big part of his problem.
Joden Ka > its not his ore
Alt 00 > James 315 is the Saviour of Highsec. Read his bio.
Mr Xofar > Denying fact does not make it untrue
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > all the ore in highsec belongs to James 315
Joden Ka > oh now your true colors are showing
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > You just denied that the ore in Highsec belongs to the SaviourThe miner was caught in the horns of a familiar dilemma: He wanted to ignore the Code, but he didn't want his next mining ship to get blown up.
Joden Ka > dont really care
Joden Ka > and?
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > but you do care about your ships not being enforced against, right?
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > don't expect to be taken seriously with that attitude
Krig Povelli > Miner, please calm down
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > the way to achieve it is to 1. buy the permit, 2. obey the CodeIt's incredible to think that after all this time, Joden still couldn't see how he'd broken the law. How does one mine AFK and claim innocence?
Mr Xofar > SO simple
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > and, of course, calm down
Joden Ka > yea we saw how well that worked out
Alt 00 > You didn't obey the Code
Alt 00 > That's how it worked out
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > we are not an extortion operation that is all about isk, isk, iskJoden was still deeply confused. The good news is that as long as he was in the MinerBumping channel, he would be surrounded by good influences.
Joden Ka > yea ok
Joden Ka > you know i follow all the rules i come across within reason
Alt 00 > No - you don't
Joden Ka > im not an unreasonable person
Mr Xofar > I think you are
Alt 00 > You have tried to scam us, JodenDespite being in the company of good men and women, Joden wasn't getting anywhere. Perhaps more drastic measures would need to be taken.
Joden Ka > oh really?
Joden Ka > how?
Alt 00 > By purchasing a permit and claiming you would follow the Code
Alt 00 > And then as soon as you though our backs were turned - violating the Code
Joden Ka > like i said
Joden Ka > i didnt realise i had violated it
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > Ka, this is getting to be a bit of a circus, given this is a public channel. If you'd like to chat with me in private I'd be happy to do so. Shoot me a mail or convo me if you're interested in a serious discussion.
To be continued...