Tuesday, March 14, 2017

The Family Meeting, Part 3

Previously, on MinerBumping... Permit owner Joden Ka went AFK to talk to his family and get a drink. Meanwhile, Joden's Retriever was being killed by a member of the highsec family--Agent Zopiclone. Joden insisted he was innocent, and the matter was taken up by a council of elders. They soon confirmed Joden had violated the Code.
Joden Ka > high sec used to be free when i last played....and this code didn't exist
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > yes, there have been many changes for the better
Joden Ka > oh really
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > now highsec has a Savior
Alt 00 > \0/
Mr Xofar > \o/
Joden was now surrounded by good EVE players: Agents of the New Order. The miner was having trouble adjusting to the new highsec, so our Agents drew his attention to some of the positive changes.
Alt 00 > 'The Saviour of Highsec'
Joden Ka > seems like a bully to me telling people they cant mine and go afk without special permission
Jeyne Farrow > Joden Ka please be respectful on this server, as we have been to you
Jeyne Farrow > now, would you like me to send over a permit?
Joden Ka > hold on
It time for Joden to stop griping and start giving money to the Agents. But he was not yet ready.
Joden Ka > i've been called a liar
Joden Ka > and ignorant
Joden Ka > just because i don't know of this code of yours
Alt 00 > Joden Ka we are the real victims here - you have purchased a permit and then turned your back on the Code of Contact
Even a villain may consider himself the hero of his own story. Take the AFK miners, for instance. They see themselves as the good guys!
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > Your state of poverty is unfortunate. We are here to help you nonetheless.
Joden Ka > lol
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > That's the spirit
Joden Ka > no
Joden Ka > that wasn't a laugh of joy
Agents of the New Order are experts at many things. One of their greatest strengths is their ability to enjoy EVE. Highsec miners are usually lacking in that department.
Alt 00 > Joden Ka why are you not happy? You gotto PVP with us in a PVP game
Joden Ka > do not patronize me
Mr Xofar > Undocking is consent to PvP
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > Let's assume the problem was not malice, but merely ignorance.
Joden Ka > bs
The miner didn't see the fun in PvP, which is EVE's raison d'ĂȘtre. You know, it's pretty hard to enjoy a game if you don't like its raison d'ĂȘtre.
Joden Ka > undocking in low sec is open pvp
Psycho-Bob > actually undocking is pvp
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > undocking anywhere is open pvp
Joden Ka > high sec is supposed to be safe
Psycho-Bob > nope
Alt 00 > Violating the Code is effectively a request for PVP
Joden believed highsec was supposed to be safe. Our Agents pitied him. The EVE tutorial and new player experience had failed him--but they wouldn't.
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > Whatever the root cause of your non-compliance, at the end of the day it is your non-compliance that is the issue.
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > We are past the point of excuse making.
Joden Ka > excuse making?
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > Now, we can proceed with rectifying your non-compliance, or we can leave that to the Enforcement Division.
Joden Ka > enforcement division?
Joden Ka > i pay for this game
Joden Ka > nobody else
Our Agents are also experts at problem-solving. They wanted the miner to move forward, not wallow in self-pity and reimbursement requests.
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > miner, please calm down
Psycho-Bob > "The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is full time PvP in a sandbox environment. As has been mentioned in previous sections any player can engage another player at any time in any place." ccp new player faq
Joden Ka > i'm about as calm as an irishman can be
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > That's good to hear.
Joden Ka > not really
Of course, the first step in solving any problem is to calm down. Joden was clearly struggling.
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > However, even if you pay for the game, you are not free to mine the Saviour's ore without a mining permit.
Joden Ka > its not his ore
Alt 00 > James 315 is the Saviour of Highsec. Read his bio.
Mr Xofar > Denying fact does not make it untrue
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > all the ore in highsec belongs to James 315
Joden Ka > oh now your true colors are showing
For some reason, Joden had a bad attitude about me. I can't imagine why; I've never even met him. Actually, that's probably a big part of his problem.
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > You just denied that the ore in Highsec belongs to the Saviour
Joden Ka > dont really care
Joden Ka > and?
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > but you do care about your ships not being enforced against, right?
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > don't expect to be taken seriously with that attitude
Krig Povelli > Miner, please calm down
The miner was caught in the horns of a familiar dilemma: He wanted to ignore the Code, but he didn't want his next mining ship to get blown up.
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > the way to achieve it is to 1. buy the permit, 2. obey the Code
Mr Xofar > SO simple
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > and, of course, calm down
Joden Ka > yea we saw how well that worked out
Alt 00 > You didn't obey the Code
Alt 00 > That's how it worked out
It's incredible to think that after all this time, Joden still couldn't see how he'd broken the law. How does one mine AFK and claim innocence?
Shub-Niggurath Podienne > we are not an extortion operation that is all about isk, isk, isk
Joden Ka > yea ok
Joden Ka > you know i follow all the rules i come across within reason
Alt 00 > No - you don't
Joden Ka > im not an unreasonable person
Mr Xofar > I think you are
Joden was still deeply confused. The good news is that as long as he was in the MinerBumping channel, he would be surrounded by good influences.
Alt 00 > You have tried to scam us, Joden
Joden Ka > oh really?
Joden Ka > how?
Alt 00 > By purchasing a permit and claiming you would follow the Code
Alt 00 > And then as soon as you though our backs were turned - violating the Code
Joden Ka > like i said
Joden Ka > i didnt realise i had violated it
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet > Ka, this is getting to be a bit of a circus, given this is a public channel. If you'd like to chat with me in private I'd be happy to do so. Shoot me a mail or convo me if you're interested in a serious discussion.
Despite being in the company of good men and women, Joden wasn't getting anywhere. Perhaps more drastic measures would need to be taken.

To be continued...


  1. wow antiganking is really failing right now

  2. Anticipation is probably going to ruin my evening now. No, wait; it's ok. I'll just read some of James' past blogs; there's quite a stack of them!

    Whew; crisis averted!

    1. That's what I've been doing while at work (shhh! Don't tell my boss... LOL). I'm going through the past archive to get up-to-date. I'm up to November 2015.

    2. I think all Agents should do this if they can find the time. I do it for pleasure and plunder!

      But it also gives you a view of how the Order has developed over quite a long time. Despite its renowned flexibility, the Code has remained the Code during all that time - and there's no need to change a word of it. What an achievement.

  3. Ahh, please tell me he went 1v1 with Tweeps..

  4. I am concerned about this miner's unwillingness to take responsibility for his actions. He is decidedly not humble, despite performing the lowly act of mining. A private convo with Tweeps is just the thing to turn him around.


Note: If you are unable to post a comment, try enabling the "allow third-party cookies" option on your browser.