Rusell > i hope dont see you in any freighterRusell cautioned Alexander Kaan against doling out criticism. He, too, could wind up as an expensive killmail.
Alexander Kaan > you threatening me about something?
Rusell > i will blame you as a guilty if you are caught
Alexander Kaan > I will be the first one to say that
Alexander Kaan > if I die in a freighter it'll be cause I fucked up
Alexander Kaan > plain and simple
Alexander Kaan > I know it's hard to admit one own's faults and it's easier to blame the game but heyDespite taking flak from everyone around him, Rusell couldn't read the room. He again blamed all freighter losses on Goon influence at CCP headquarters.
Dorothy I > Rusell You'll have to fly extra carefully, because CODE has put their crosshairs on you because they know they can get a reaction out of you. Switch to an alt for a while and dedicate this character for purposes less susceptible to CODE intervention.
Rusell > Alexander Kaan if you die in a freighter is because goons are more than 50% of customers in this game
Rusell > goons are powerful and you will perish if they wantRusell's critics were stunned into silence as he launched into another sermon.
Rusell > for those that they want me
Rusell > here i am
Rusell > and goons are the real power
Rusell > the vision of 315 could be achieved but the result wont be as he wantsRusell's sermon was decidedly of the fire and brimstone variety. He painted a picture of a post-apocalyptic EVE, a hellscape ruled by a triumphant James 315.
Rusell > my vission is a game ruined sooner or later without miners and industrialist
Rusell > because
Rusell > why mining or produce if you can steal is more profitable
Dorothy I > Rusell Some of the gankers are industrialists and traders.Normally, Rusell's dire warnings of the consequences of New Order victory would be enough to scare the Anti-Gankers straight. But they were tired of listening to Rusell now.
Alexander Kaan > do you realize Eve is going on since 2003?
Alexander Kaan > and dying since then
Aldorien > was just going to say
Aldorien > this debate has been ongoing since that time
Rusell > even is everytime worse and worse
Alexander Kaan > in your mind, perhapsAs the Anti-Gankers pointed out, people have been saying "EVE is dying" forever. Rusell countered this argument by noting that CODE. was formed more recently, and that it has been steadily growing in power ever since.
Alexander Kaan > in your pessimistic and "I'm useless and vulnerable" attitude
Rusell > Alexander Kaan CODE existis since 2013
Rusell > when i started the game was sold like a living economy where players could decide politics
Rusell > this is going too far
Alexander Kaan > I think you need a course in self-esteem and eve machanics, you will then realize how much you can do apart from saying goons are the power and you can do nothing about itRusell railed against EVE's game mechanics--a common prelude to a rage-quit. Was he getting ready to leave the game?
Rusell > and moderators of the situation that are CCP dont want to do anything
Aldorien > CCP like conflict
Aldorien > drama is what fuels eve
Rusell > Alexander Kaan do not tell anything about my self esteem seriously
Rusell > and eve mechanism is a shit
Alexander Kaan > if you feel so powerless in Eve, I don't know what to thinkAlexander suggested that maybe Rusell should transfer his assets to a more enthusiastic EVE player. He didn't have the temerity to ask if he could have his stuff, though.
Rusell > dont need anymore
Alexander Kaan > well, if you don't like it, what makes you feel obliged to play?
Alexander Kaan > so many people would take your stuff
Rusell > i feel well in EvE is in your mind that you think that im powerless
Dorothy I > Rusell The best way to not feel powerless is to try to learn the mechanics gankers use so you can avoid them. Watch a ganker's stream, read about their tactics.Rusell wasn't ready to leave. He still loved EVE, even though he was unhappy while playing it, hated its mechanics, suspected Goons of controlling it, and foresaw a dismal future for it.
Rusell > i love this game and im not going to leave it because you want Alexander Kaan
Rusell > the mechanisms are made for ganking
Alexander Kaan > yeah, so?
Alexander Kaan > eve without piracy would be dea
Alexander Kaan > dead for real
Rusell > no Alexander Kaan i wont leave eveRusell's motive for staying in EVE was the remote possibility that he could get CCP to see reason. For instance, they might adopt his idea to fine gankers a billion isk or whatever.
Alexander Kaan > then accept the mechanics
Alexander Kaan > and accept the fact Eve thrives on conflict
Rusell > im only suggesting changes
Rusell > fines for ganking is soo good i cant understand why you dont want
Dorothy I > Suggesting changes is meaningless in this chat.The sniping in the Anti-Ganking channel became more passive-aggressive and poisonous than usual. What a toxic place.
Alexander Kaan > you believe your ideas are better than everyone else's? then run for CSM
Rusell > my ideas are the worst Alexander Kaan
Rusell > i never do the things right Alexander Kaan
Rusell > just lossing billions for others its ok Alexander Kaan
Alexander Kaan > can you link my name once again?
Rusell > just listening people like you makes me worst Alexander KaanRusell questioned the loyalty of anyone who thought his ideas were bad. He saw himself surrounded by enemies.
Rusell > i want changes and they are possible you dont want them it is because you have any kind of interest that the things still like they are
Dorothy I > If you really wanted changes, you'd go post them in the Suggestion forum. You just want to vent here.
Aleff Knoll > Oh, this guy. Swell.
Alexander Kaan > if you want changes, suggest these in the forums or on reddit or run for CSM, whatever. Anti-ganking is not the place to mention how you think Eve should beThe only way to distinguish friend from foe was a loyalty test: Rusell demanded that Alexander admit that Goons control EVE.
Rusell > right Alexander Kaan i have never been serious for you please try to do not accuse me of anything and try to be respectful for the people that even have lost their ships for helping me
Rusell > and admit that goons are deciding everything in this game
To be continued...
How CODE acts:ReplyDelete
Government agencies at all levels aimed to exclude Jews from the economic sphere of Germany by preventing them from earning a living. Jews were required to register their domestic and foreign property and assets, a prelude to the gradual expropriation of their material wealth by the state. Likewise, the German authorities intended to "Aryanize" all Jewish businesses, a process involving the dismissal of Jewish workers and managers, as well as the transfer of companies and enterprises to non-Jewish Germans, who bought them at prices officially fixed well below market value. From April 1933 to April 1938, "Aryanization" effectively reduced the number of Jewish-owned businesses in Germany by approximately two-thirds.
What code forces miners to pay for:
During the Nazi era, German authorities reintroduced the Jewish badge as a key element in their plan to persecute and eventually to destroy the Jewish population of Europe. They used the badge not only to stigmatize and humiliate Jews but also to segregate them and to watch and control their movements.
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!Delete
Repeat after me: EVE is only a game. Any attempts to bring Real World references into a fictional game will be dismissed as the tears that they are.Delete
Anon @4:08: Seek professional helpDelete
Miners are miners by choice, not by birth. Way to belittle the plight of the Jews by comparing it to a video game.Delete
If Eve is a futuristic game then RL history would be history in EVE, so that would make us historical characters playing future characters.Delete
Tears. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.Delete
Axel, you win the thread.Delete
Judaism is a religion but Judaism is also seen as a "race". Of course not biologically, but culturally and ethnically. Jews as an ethnic race trace back to the middle east several millenia ago. The thing was - Nazis didn't persecute the religion of Judaism - they wanted to exterminate the whole "race" of Jews.
So no, it was not about being born into a religion vs. accepting it. People were persecuted because of their parents', grandparents' or even farther ancestors' ethnicity (or perceived ethnicity).
EvE is a game and whatever happens inside a video game can never (and should never) be compared to the suffering of people during that time, be it Jews, allies, Germans, Poles, Italians, Romas, Russians or anyone else. EvE is just a game.
Lol this shitter again. He is a perfect example of impotent rage.Delete
If you put more effort / words into trolling than the sum of the responses you get, you are not a very good/efficient troll.Delete
Copying and pasting a wikipedia article is extremely effort-efficient.Delete
And they're off!ReplyDelete
Place your bets.... PLACE YOUR BETS!Delete
.. into the bed...ReplyDelete
and the baby was born.ReplyDelete
This is the calm before the butthurt storm.ReplyDelete
"Butthurt storm..." reminds me of that time I tried the extra-hot Vindaloo at the cheapest Indian in Colchester...Delete
Need more than someone who rants the same copy/paste. AG needs to central leadership and better management, they have no organization or drive to do any long term fighting.Delete
Super.... Colchester? What did you expect?!Delete
What did I expect? Essex girls....Delete
If I knew then what I know now... I would've driven on to Wivenhoe.
This guy is a man child.ReplyDelete
If only he were more capable and this anti-ganker movement might be a more interesting and memorable incident.
"please try to do not accuse me of anything and try to be respectful for the people that even have lost their ships"ReplyDelete
One of the reasons that Goons are so enduring is because they have a culture of calling idiots out on their bullshit. There is a low tolerance for passive-aggressive behaviour, butthurt, concern trolling, and entitlement.
Just own it Lawrence.Delete
Would a gaming style be considered a culture?Delete
A culture is a RL social behavior, the way one acts in a game is not a culture because its just a game.Delete
That'd be incorrect. Interactions in a game are social behaviour. Hence the term "gaming culture." Just because it lacks a personal element does not make it any less social. Grantes people shouldnt justify gameing all day as an acceptable means of social interaction. But just look at CODE, new order, hell all of new eden. There is an entire culture there.Delete
Woah. Antiganking couldnt save one of there own and expect to save randoms? Non-stop failureReplyDelete
Couples counseling can really help your and your ag hubby.Delete
Give loyalanon his stuff back so he can play the game instead of just crying about the game he has no $$$ to play. Whoever did it. Give it back now!Delete
NO. Loyal must be punished till eve ends forever.Delete
There is no forgiveness in code just never ending tears. Loyal will never be one of us ever again.Delete
Good evening, New Eden. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of everyday routine, the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition, the totality of blogs. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration, where upon important events of the past, usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, are celebrated with a nice holiday, I thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat. There are, of course, those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with moderator accounts will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well, certainly, there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, ganking. They were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, James 315. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. This night, I seek to end that silence. This night, I corrupt the MB to remind this community of what it has forgotten. A great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words; they are perspectives. So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this Code remain unknown to you, then I would suggest that you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me, inside the gates of High Sec, and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot.ReplyDelete
Let me tick off these points one at a time:Delete
"Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame?"
1. you're mixing RL events into a fictional game.
"War, terror, ganking. They were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense."
2. Still blending RL with a game. Separate the two. Ganking =/= terror tactics as people are not doing it to install fear into other people. Ganking = in game component.
"Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, James 315. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent."
3. Actually, he doesn't DEMAND anything. He shows people how EVE-O is and how the GAME works. He asks. He debates. He encourages free thought. He does not ask us to be silent. Instead, he shows us what he does and says 'follow my example if you so choose'. Seriously, have you not read ANYTHING on this website?
And, BTW, it's Saviour, not Chancellor. Get it right.
"His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words; they are perspectives"
4. They are perspectives and misplaced ones in the game. Who said EVE-O was fair? Who ever said justice prevailed in the game? Freedom? Sure, we all have freedom in the game to do whatever the hell we want to and right now I want to blow up some pixilated spaceships. Oh the horror!
This is one of the biggest misnomers I've ever seen. By your same logic we shouldn't be playing Call of Duty because we can 'gank' the lower ranked players that choose to enter the game. A level 1 Private has no chance against my Prestige X General because I have all the unlocks. You might contend that it's fair because Private Snowball has a gun too. Well guess what, miner, your buddies (9 times out of 10) have something to shoot back with but they mindlessly drone on harvesting ore instead of getting out there and blowing stuff up.
"But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me, inside the gates of High Sec, and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot."
5. Sure! Tell me what gate you're at. Expect my missiles to arrive shortly as I gank you.
There's the door. GTFO.
Someone get this man... Something. That was a superb breakdown of that copypasta speach. Kudos.Delete
ok... I take back what I said earlier.Delete
If Zander spent less time worrying about what is happening in a comments section (hint: it is only the articles that matter) and more time doing something else... then maybe he'd have ganked something this month.Delete
All talk and no play is the way to the Ming side... and you don't want to go down that path, bro!
With comments exceeding 100 per post, this feature on Rusell really hit a nerve with AG and the themeparkers! Great job, Supreme Protector!ReplyDelete
Lawrence.... Own it.Delete
It's just Kip trying way too hard. But that's how Kip likes it, hard. And long. Daily!Delete
I wonder if he still runs the Pandemic Horde anti ganking failitia....
I believe his title was "Kip Wanker, PHags #1 H.O.M.O.
Highsec Online Moderator and Operator.
I'm just gonna leave this here.ReplyDelete
"Alexander Kaan if you die in a freighter is because goons are more than 50% of customers in this game"ReplyDelete
- oy vey! The delusion is great with this one...
I can't believe everyone is just bitching instead of posting about this glorious series of posts.ReplyDelete
"He painted a picture of a post-apocalyptic EVE, a hellscape ruled by a triumphant James 315."ReplyDelete
I loled, a lot.
And, according to Rusell, there are something like 200k Goon accounts running EvE from within CCP.
Jeeeezus christ Rusell!ReplyDelete
You need to stop playing EVE for a few years, see if you mature any.
If, after a few years, you still cannot accept that you are to blame for your own actions, get a vasectomy.
Your particular kind of stupid is genetic, and we don't want that passed on to future generations.
Zopiclone Wins. Fatality.ReplyDelete
Zopi-kip you mean.Delete
Have fun enforcing Code outside of CODE. :P
Ok, I will thanks, using your stuff!Delete
Zopi-kip? Do you mean PHags #1 H.O.M.O.?Delete
Salty much? I get why you're salty about Zopiclones great successes in delivering the CODE directly to those who need(ed) it and extracting maximum salt content. But I hope you're not a salty bear about someone in the Anti ganking "community". They're not worth it.Delete
Do you even know what salt is, zopi-kip? Stop using it wrong then.Delete
The thing that makes me smile the most is the fact that zopi-kip is so impotent all he can do is cry and rage here as anons.ReplyDelete
That's true failure.
lol kip is not zopi. Who is this kip? What did this kip ever do? We all know the masterful strokes zopi made. But what did kip ever do? ever?Delete
zopi-kip got triggeredDelete
That's one salty-clone ;)
Zopiclone's masterfullest stroke was when he, at the beginning, persuaded people that he was not addictive - unlike every other sedative. Many thousands of lives destroyed. Win for the Zopster!Delete
Let's let the readers decide for themselves. But Zopi's full name on his re-birth certificate reads:Delete
Zopi Kip-Winger Clone
Hmmmpf! That explains why Zopiclone is always making drama for us.Delete
Zopiclone. Flawless victory.Delete
Obviously CODE are dicks and their moronic code is moronic BUT if you're not an afk miner who has them and the out of CODE scanners they use (just watch for the one who goes suspect straight after a kill, it's them) marked as terrible standing you know they're coming and can avoid them. A couple of CODE visits does make the belts clearer so it's better mining for people paying attention. CODE are still dicks however.ReplyDelete
Hi Anon 12.12. You realise that your advice is totally wasted? The miners who read this site will already be aware of it, and the rest will ignore it, as usual.Delete
We find that the best advice is: 'Read the Code; do what it says' - backed up with blasters and Void S, of course.