Rusell > i hope dont see you in any freighterRusell cautioned Alexander Kaan against doling out criticism. He, too, could wind up as an expensive killmail.
Alexander Kaan > you threatening me about something?
Rusell > i will blame you as a guilty if you are caught
Alexander Kaan > I will be the first one to say that
Alexander Kaan > if I die in a freighter it'll be cause I fucked up
Alexander Kaan > plain and simple
Alexander Kaan > I know it's hard to admit one own's faults and it's easier to blame the game but heyDespite taking flak from everyone around him, Rusell couldn't read the room. He again blamed all freighter losses on Goon influence at CCP headquarters.
Dorothy I > Rusell You'll have to fly extra carefully, because CODE has put their crosshairs on you because they know they can get a reaction out of you. Switch to an alt for a while and dedicate this character for purposes less susceptible to CODE intervention.
Rusell > Alexander Kaan if you die in a freighter is because goons are more than 50% of customers in this game
Rusell > goons are powerful and you will perish if they wantRusell's critics were stunned into silence as he launched into another sermon.
Rusell > for those that they want me
Rusell > here i am
Rusell > and goons are the real power
Rusell > the vision of 315 could be achieved but the result wont be as he wantsRusell's sermon was decidedly of the fire and brimstone variety. He painted a picture of a post-apocalyptic EVE, a hellscape ruled by a triumphant James 315.
Rusell > my vission is a game ruined sooner or later without miners and industrialist
Rusell > because
Rusell > why mining or produce if you can steal is more profitable
Dorothy I > Rusell Some of the gankers are industrialists and traders.Normally, Rusell's dire warnings of the consequences of New Order victory would be enough to scare the Anti-Gankers straight. But they were tired of listening to Rusell now.
Alexander Kaan > do you realize Eve is going on since 2003?
Alexander Kaan > and dying since then
Aldorien > was just going to say
Aldorien > this debate has been ongoing since that time
Rusell > even is everytime worse and worse
Alexander Kaan > in your mind, perhapsAs the Anti-Gankers pointed out, people have been saying "EVE is dying" forever. Rusell countered this argument by noting that CODE. was formed more recently, and that it has been steadily growing in power ever since.
Alexander Kaan > in your pessimistic and "I'm useless and vulnerable" attitude
Rusell > Alexander Kaan CODE existis since 2013
Rusell > when i started the game was sold like a living economy where players could decide politics
Rusell > this is going too far
Alexander Kaan > I think you need a course in self-esteem and eve machanics, you will then realize how much you can do apart from saying goons are the power and you can do nothing about itRusell railed against EVE's game mechanics--a common prelude to a rage-quit. Was he getting ready to leave the game?
Rusell > and moderators of the situation that are CCP dont want to do anything
Aldorien > CCP like conflict
Aldorien > drama is what fuels eve
Rusell > Alexander Kaan do not tell anything about my self esteem seriously
Rusell > and eve mechanism is a shit
Alexander Kaan > if you feel so powerless in Eve, I don't know what to thinkAlexander suggested that maybe Rusell should transfer his assets to a more enthusiastic EVE player. He didn't have the temerity to ask if he could have his stuff, though.
Rusell > dont need anymore
Alexander Kaan > well, if you don't like it, what makes you feel obliged to play?
Alexander Kaan > so many people would take your stuff
Rusell > i feel well in EvE is in your mind that you think that im powerless
Dorothy I > Rusell The best way to not feel powerless is to try to learn the mechanics gankers use so you can avoid them. Watch a ganker's stream, read about their tactics.Rusell wasn't ready to leave. He still loved EVE, even though he was unhappy while playing it, hated its mechanics, suspected Goons of controlling it, and foresaw a dismal future for it.
Rusell > i love this game and im not going to leave it because you want Alexander Kaan
Rusell > the mechanisms are made for ganking
Alexander Kaan > yeah, so?
Alexander Kaan > eve without piracy would be dea
Alexander Kaan > dead for real
Rusell > no Alexander Kaan i wont leave eveRusell's motive for staying in EVE was the remote possibility that he could get CCP to see reason. For instance, they might adopt his idea to fine gankers a billion isk or whatever.
Alexander Kaan > then accept the mechanics
Alexander Kaan > and accept the fact Eve thrives on conflict
Rusell > im only suggesting changes
Rusell > fines for ganking is soo good i cant understand why you dont want
Dorothy I > Suggesting changes is meaningless in this chat.The sniping in the Anti-Ganking channel became more passive-aggressive and poisonous than usual. What a toxic place.
Alexander Kaan > you believe your ideas are better than everyone else's? then run for CSM
Rusell > my ideas are the worst Alexander Kaan
Rusell > i never do the things right Alexander Kaan
Rusell > just lossing billions for others its ok Alexander Kaan
Alexander Kaan > can you link my name once again?
Rusell > just listening people like you makes me worst Alexander KaanRusell questioned the loyalty of anyone who thought his ideas were bad. He saw himself surrounded by enemies.
Rusell > i want changes and they are possible you dont want them it is because you have any kind of interest that the things still like they are
Dorothy I > If you really wanted changes, you'd go post them in the Suggestion forum. You just want to vent here.
Aleff Knoll > Oh, this guy. Swell.
Alexander Kaan > if you want changes, suggest these in the forums or on reddit or run for CSM, whatever. Anti-ganking is not the place to mention how you think Eve should beThe only way to distinguish friend from foe was a loyalty test: Rusell demanded that Alexander admit that Goons control EVE.
Rusell > right Alexander Kaan i have never been serious for you please try to do not accuse me of anything and try to be respectful for the people that even have lost their ships for helping me
Rusell > and admit that goons are deciding everything in this game
To be continued...