Thursday, February 23, 2017

Helping the Little Guy

Though the New Order has a reputation for being extremely elite, it's not an elitist organization. In fact, we do more to help train new players and new gankers than anyone else in EVE. Consider, for example, our Venture ganking contests, which allow new players to get really involved in the game.


Agent One Minus heard about one of our recent Venture ganking contests. Excited to take part in such an event, he was soon scouring the asteroid belts of highsec.


In Hek, One Minus discovered a pair of Ventures piloted by DigitalPhoenix3 and DigitalPhoenix4. Something inside our Agent told him that the Ventures could be botting, but One Minus decided to give the miner the benefit of the doubt. He ganked both Ventures and moved on without reporting them to CCP.


Then One Minus sent them an informative EVEmail. Even as he drafted the message, his suspicions about the DigitalPhoenix team grew.


One Minus hoped that if he sent the miner in the right direction, the positive influence of the New Order community would pull him from the edge of the abyss.


The next day, however, our Agent discovered the miner back in the same place, doing the same thing. A second pair of Ventures was destroyed. Combined with a reference in the characters' bios about using a tool called "Mouse Without Borders", it seemed botting was a real possibility here. Bot-aspirancy at a minimum.


One Minus made no secret of his disappointment. But surely being ganked four times would be enough to wrench the miner out of his routine.


Many hours later, the DigitalPhoenixes showed up in the MinerBumping channel. One Minus was thrilled and quickly answered his question about how to buy a mining permit.


Moments later, One Minus was shocked to receive a nasty EVEmail from the miner. DigitalPhoenix2 claimed no one had answered him in the channel, even though One Minus himself had done so. Our Agent was puzzled at first, but then he realized that this was one of those "Sixth Sense" type twists.


Before entering the MinerBumping channel, the miner had blocked One Minus. That's why he thought no one had answered him. With the help of another Agent, One Minus got everything straightened out and invited the miner to a private convo.


For someone who was satisfied earning so little isk per hour, DigitalPhoenix2 was in a big hurry.


Things looked good at first, but the rule against AFK mining turned out to be a deal breaker. Between that and the blocking incident, the DigitalPhoenixes were looking more and more like bots all the time.


The next day, something had changed. The DigitalPhoenixes were back in Hek, but now they were in combat ships. Unfortunately, some habits are hard to break: DigitalPhoenix2's Thrasher and DigitalPhoenix3's Talwar were both AFK. One Minus killed them.


Because he was blocked by all the miner's alts, One Minus had to enlist the aid of a random passerby in Hek. He wanted so badly to reach the miner.


A member of The Marmite Collective contacted DigitalPhoenix3 but was threatened with a block himself. It was as if the miner was closing himself off from EVE, all for the sake of some half-baked botting operation. However, despite all the blocks, One Minus was able to get through to the miner: He stopped losing Ventures in highsec. And for that, he has the New Order to thank.

21 comments:

  1. Another glorious victory to the cause! The fact that people so openly bot (which IS against the EULA and TOS) is disturbing. More so is the herd mentality that many miners seem to be in as I found much to my dismay last night when I moved to Halaima and established a 1-man Mining Corps in defiance of the NPC Mining Cartels and Sheep Mentalities that seem to be infesting Hi Sec. As a new follower to the Code I have dutifully submitted my permit fee and request to James 315 so that I can continue operations in order to feed my exploration habit on my other character. :D

    o7

    -Zander Moreau

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  2. \0\ /0/ \0/

    antigankers failing non-stop daily continuously ALL the time

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    1. True, Wolf. They don't help the little guy at all. Or the big guy. Or the big/little gal. In fact, remind me again who it is they do help...

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    2. Their pride, maybe? I dunno. I'm trying to understand the psychology behind their actions and words. For people who claim to be "for the little guy", the anti gankers seem to be conspicuously missing.

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  3. Where's that shitter Kotex?

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    1. Don't worry none he always comes. This all started months ago when we ganked a fail fit retriever. Now he blames anyone who disagrees with him to be a tnt alt. All in as ll I find it kind of sad to be that caught up on something. I hope things get better for him and this unhealthy obsession passes.

      Lady Ati
      Systems High Guard CEO

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    2. Aawwwwwww, will everyone look at Codex? He thinks that using big words and homophobic slurs that he's going to get me mad? :D Isn't he cute, folks?

      Now repeat after me, Codex: "It's only a game and it's a game that involves full PVP." Now Codex, I know that you're only a child but allow me to explain this to you and I'll even pretend that you're a grown up just for you. CCP had allowed the game mechanics to allow players, new or otherwise, to be engaged and killed at any time, in any place.

      That includes High Sec.

      Now repeat after me: "CONCORD is not there to protect me. CONCORD is there to enforce security status."

      Ergo: CONCORD will not do anything in High Sec except kill players who shoot first. Gaining is allowed. In only becomes harassment when you then follow said player around once they've moved on.

      You see Codex, you reveal your own ignorance when you spout out trivial stuff like your posts. The difference between us is that while you may have read the EULA and the TOS, I actually understand them.

      o7

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  4. You know, Codex, for someone who claims to not care, you're here an awful lot. Is mommy and daddy not givin you enough attention at home? For someone who claims that you will report harassment and hate speech, you're using an awful lot of it.

    Now repeat after me: "EVE is a sandbox in which anyone can do anything." That includes CODE claiming High Sec for their Alliance and enforcing laws as they see fit. It is no different than some merc corp gatecamping in Low Sec to extract toll fees nor is it any different than a corporation putting down POSs in null to claim sovereignty there. CCP made the game what it was and if you can hack it here then go back to World of Warcraft.

    Actually, Azeroth shouldn't be punished like that. How about you go back to GTA online.... no, that'd be too hardcore for you... Minecraft might be a better suit for you. That way you can toil away making carebears to adore you.

    o7

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  5. Well, Sabrina, I'm not going to lose sleep at night. Nobody in JITA gave me back my PLEX when I got ganked. Nobody offered to help me back up on my feet. In fact, everyone in Jita laughed at me when I lost the PLEX that I had bought with me RL money.

    But if you want to rectify that error, feel free to send me about 600 mil of ISK. No? Then you and your Codex Carebear can go back where y'all came from and leave us, permit carrying, law abiding, miners alone.

    o7

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  6. Jeezus! Has anyone managed to make any sense out of all those codex tears?

    He has got to be the biggerst bitch in EVE history! I hope he sticks around for a long time, it's gonna be fun awoxing him! XD

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  7. we all know how ignorant and uneducated the CODEX miner is, it seems he has actually met somebody as equally uneducated and ignorant as he is to cry here with him......
    Fascinating stuff.

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    1. Hi Codex/Kotex/I.E. Carebear,

      The amount of logical fallacies in a single post are astounding. We go from Ad Hominem, to Strawman, back to Ad Hominem... twice, to Anecdotal, to Tu Quoque, to Appeal to Authority, and then to Bandwagon before resorting to the age old axiom of threats of violence. All in 6 sentences! Amazing! Instead of providing any kind of real evidence or reasoning, you just use personal attacks and insults. I've told some of my non-EVE Playing friends about you and even THEY are blown away by you carebears. Even THEY can see the logic in the Code.

      Fun fact about BoB, since you brought them up: CODE is doing nothing different then what BoB did back in the day when you couldn't claim sovereignty over a system. They declared themselves the rulers of a particular group of stars, people accepted it, and people followed their rules within their star systems. James 315 and the Agents of CODE are simply exercising the same game mechanic that BoB enjoyed in the early days of EVE.

      History: know it, love it, or get steamrolled by it.

      And by the way, how is BoB doing these days? OOoooohhh that's right... they got killed... by Goonswarm. >:D

      o7

      -Zander Moreau, now thinking about hanging up his mining pick to become a dedicated Agent.

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  8. *yawn*. Feel free to call me out all you want. Maybe it'll help me sell more books. I won't turn down free advertising.

    And I've lived for some time up in the Vale on my main, thank you very much. So if you wanna say hi, feel free to do so.

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  9. The only people crying here are you carebears.

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  10. Anybody else notice that Sabrina and Cutex have the same style of writing?

    Cutex is to PvP as a virgin is to sex. He's got a lot of fantasies and theories of how it ought to be, but they're completely unrealistic.

    Remember Cutex, new players are *more likely* to remain subscribed to EVE if they have been ganked. Grinding PvE content in safety makes them more likely to quit. Stop trying to chase away new players!

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  11. Mr Biovector, you are a living example why the CODE is popular and needed. Please keep it up, and always share your thoughts on whatever forums you frequent. People must see that there is an alternative to the New Order, and you represent them.

    an onlooker

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  12. CCP did research and that claim was refuted.

    "We have tried and tried to validate the myth that griefing has a pronounced affect on new players - we have failed. The strongest indicators for a new player staying with EVE are associated with social activity: joining corps, using market and contract systems, pvping, etc. Isolating players away from the actual sandbox seems very contrary to what we would like to accomplish." -- CCP Rise

    https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5504176#post5504221

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  13. Sadly, the carebears don't let petty things like facts deter them.

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  14. Highsec is not dependent on incompetent miners for its supply of PvP ships. There are plenty of Code-compliant miners and industrialists in highsec, and many sources of ore and minerals.

    Player interactions are not something you can turn off. Demanding to be granted immunity from PvP so you can inefficiently produce T1 ships is the height of self-importance.

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  15. But where oh where is Ming?

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