Saturday, August 30, 2014

Falcon Punch: CCP Fights for Its Soul

The buzz is all over EVE-O. Everyone is talking about it. They're calling it the "Falcon Punch".


No, not that kind of Falcon Punch. This kind of Falcon Punch:


To begin with, a little background info. The New Order's crusade to revive the practice of suicide ganking has been tremendously successful. The carebears have had enough, and they're begging CCP to put a stop to it. The evidence is all over the official EVE forums:


Marathon tear threads have been posted. I've got news for all the carebears who have reached their limit: We're only getting started. We're just getting warmed up! The latest complaint thread, started by Duchess Amarrian, blames CCP for not providing enough protection in highsec. Duchess cried:
"Last night my hauling ship got blown sky high. I was flying a prorator and doing some deliveries. The person that shot me down organised it really well by setting up contracts and sucking in the person accepting the contract. I wont go into detail here. As i was making the delivery and just 1 second from being docked into station my ship got blown sky high. From what ? a minmitar Battleship that was so many km's away. It took 2 people to stop me.

I keep hearing that ccp wil be doing something about this. I've just had enough of it. Seriously I'm trying to find some fun in this game and seeing that the others always have the edge over miners and haulers in high sec is a real joke. I don't mind if it had happened in low sec and null but when your playing by ccp rules to me it seems there are no rules and high sec is really a joke.

At the very least give miners and haulers some big guns like you give others and maybe will balance things well."
The next few pages contained the usual EVE General Discussion fare. But things got interesting when CCP Falcon jumped into the ring:
"Why should CCP provide protection for your haulage in high sec?

CONCORD offer a level of deterrent just the same as any law enforcement agency, but as with any police for they're reactive and punitive rather than proactive.

If you want your haulage to be safer, bring the guns. If you don't have any guns, sacrifice some of your profit margin and hire someone who has them to escort you.

Welcome to New Eden, you just learned a very valuable lesson in being prepared and covering your back.

:)"
It was a stunning rebuke--from a CCP developer and community manager, no less! But the carebears weren't going to let up. Quoting Duchess Amarrian's comment that "high sec is really a joke", fellow bot-aspirant Kiandoshia replied, "This, essentially."

CCP Falcon responded:
"Being unprepared and putting all your eggs in one basket to make a nice juicy target for a suicide gank is the joke here, not highsec.

There are a multitude of ways to protect yourself from suicide gankers, people just automatically assume they're "safe" in highsec, then get annoyed when they lose a ship because of their own lack of spatial awareness."

Falcon Kiiiiiiiiiiiiiick!

Sensing the momentum had shifted against them, the carebears rallied and began trotting out the old "gankers have no risk" myth. Syn Shi bitterly complained:
"Gankers have already accepted the fact that they are going to lose a cheap ship. There is no deterrent for them at all. Risk is a myth that CCP keeps preaching hoping some will drink the cool-aid. Only thing left is reward and acceptable losses. Acceptable losses are easily replaced, just buy more plex. Telling new players there is something they can do is just lying to their face and hoping that they believe long enough to buy another plex."
Normally this is where everyone would surrender to the carebears' faulty logic. Not CCP Falcon. Not this time. He wrote back:
"Tell that to all the guys who suicide gank someone, and end up making a heavy loss because everything they wanted to loot gets destroyed in the ship destruction.

:)"
By this point, a crowd was forming. Onlookers couldn't believe their eyes as CCP Falcon knocked out one carebear after the next. Yet the whiny miners kept crawling out of the woodwork. Sentient Blade continued preaching the "no risk" myth:
"Risk vs Reward doesn't really apply to gankers ol boy. It's cost vs reward, a straight equation weighted massively towards reward. Risk implies a probability of something happening, which is increased if you're not paying attention. A hauler takes risks. A ganker knows he or she is going to lose their ship, exactly how much it will cost, and a fair approximation of what will drop and be recoverable."
Was CCP Falcon going to let that nonsense slide? Not a chance:
"Because he's prepared himself, done the work and knows exactly what he's doing, how to achieve his objective, and knows the risk if the stuff he wants doesn't drop.

I say fair play to him if he cuts a profit from someone who's half-assed a ship fitting and AFK hauled across space with a sizeable chunk of ISK in their hold.

Honestly, doing that in EVE is like dressing up in red, diving into the ring with a bull and complaining when you spend six weeks in hospital because you got the horns.

This might be internet spaceships, but it's not rocket science to protect yourself and fly with a little common sense."
Ouch! Still, the miners and AFK haulers of highsec had one last card to play. It's the carebear's doomsday weapon: The argument that if CCP doesn't continue to make highsec safer, everyone will leave the game and CCP will go out of business. Showing truly wretched form, carebear Tam Althor threatened CCP Falcon, tell him he'll lose his job if ganking isn't nerfed for the umpteenth time:
"Remember CCP Falcon, the level of protection that concord provides players is the same level of job protection you have when the high sec players decide to quit. Will you survive the next 20% layoff when it happens?"
It was a disgusting comment to make, and so typical of the toxic, entitled carebear attitude. What CCP Falcon said next would go down in EVE-O history:

CCP Falcon wrote:
"I love EVE and the core of what the game stands for. That's why I've been dedicated to it and its community for over 11 years now.

Risk vs Reward is a huge part of that.

Honestly, if that changed, and the game started to soften out and cater to those who want to have their hand held all the way through their gameplay experience, I'd rather not be working on the project regardless of how many subscribers we had, than sell out the core principles that New Eden was built on.

That's a sentiment that I hear a lot around the office, because we are all invested in what makes New Eden so compelling - The dark, gritty, hard reality beneath the pretty ships and nebulas.

EVE is built on the core principle that you are never 100% safe, no matter where you go or what you do. When you interact with another player, you roll the dice on whether they're going to screw you over or not. That's a massive part of the social engineering behind the very basic underpinnings of the EVE Universe.

Sorry, but your scaremongering counter argument makes no sense to me and carries no weight :)"

'Twas the Falcon Punch heard 'round the world. You can see it clear as day: the New Order philosophy, grounded in the Code and built upon the foundation of its Saviour's Manifestos. It is alive today, even in the corridors of CCP headquarters. This didn't just happen. We made it happen.

Deflated carebear DeMichael Crimson moped, "Well, that wasn't surprising. Thanks for confirming Eve Online has turned into Grief Online." CCP Falcon smiled and wrote back,
"Suicide ganking has always been possible. Nothing's changed for 11 years. Sorry to burst your bubble, but EVE hasn't changed in this respect."


Agents of the New Order, take another victory lap. We're fighting the good fight. We're fighting for the future of highsec and all EVE. And you know what? We're winning.

196 comments:

  1. But can you PVP? Let me check the records.... Ah here it is, "CODE. can't PVP. Proof: They got kicked out of the alliance tourney because they couldn't show up". Sorry James, you're still bad and still irrelevant

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    1. And I know the REAL reason why they ran for the hills during the AT. Their little friend the tentacle monster in code headquarters wanted to play right then and there, so they had to leave to keep him satisfied while James 315 watched from overhead feasting on the corpses that his agents keep sending him.

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    2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ula8oi_M4Ww

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    3. There are many different forms of PvP, I think the CODE is winning at the most important PvP - that of the battle for hearts and minds.

      Especially if the anti-code, anti-PvP individuals keep spouting derogatory remarks all over local and the forums, it will be they who are banned from Eve thus getting their wish to make the game a lot safer.

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    4. Finally CCP tell it correct. EVEs about risk. If you don't like risk, go find another game. If you don't mind the risk, learn to adapt if your a miner to survive.

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    5. CCP never changed their stance, what falcon said isn't news but you all so braindead to understand LOL

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    6. Again exaggeration - you are making something out of nothing, ccp has ALWAYS had that opinion but it shows how desperate code are when you clutch on to a non statement

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    7. @ anon 10.17pm
      You're correct in saying that CCP has always had that opinion, however it's very rare for them to say so in such a forthright fashion, especially on the forums.

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    8. Freighters, haulers and miners die, anti gankers and high sec carebears cry , but the code, the code just keeps on winning.

      I would like to personally thank not only ccp falcon for talking sense and wrecking all high sec carebears with falcon punch for all the damage. But to our goon overlords aswell, with out their strength and might and letting us share in the wisdom of James 315 all of this would not be possible.

      #Alliance tournament champions undefeated
      #Undefeated csm campaigners.
      #Winners of the eve-o forums undefeated

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    9. I support this post from 412nv Yaken.

      The Code does ALWAYS win!!!!

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    10. Loyalanon ALWAYS WHINES and his children ALWAY CRY

      Where's Daddy? Playing Eve like always, he doesn't love you, he loves James 315

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    11. Anonymous ALWAYS WHINES and his children/wife/dog/cat ALWAYS CRY

      Where's Daddy? Commenting a blog, he doesn't love you, he loves Minerbumping.com

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    12. justgetoutofjail - oh boohoo did I hurt your little loyalanons feelings? Did you feel the need to defend his little broken heart? Ohhh so cute, I am so proud of you... I know it hurts little baby and I am sorry if it made you cry but f*ck and mind your own business dickhead AND........

      Loyalanon ALWAYS WHINES and his children ALWAY CRY

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    13. So much butthurt anonymous coward 8:37pm, so much rage. As a doctor, I advise you to really should let it all out. Don't be shy!

      Sincerely,
      Dr Tyler

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    14. LOL You got the rage little boy and everyone knows code are the biggest cowards LMAO Gimme those tears I want them gimme gimme............

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  2. I heard some CCP guys gave E1 a high five after the ban.

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  3. The carebear tears heard around the world.

    FALCON PUNCH!!!!!

    Long live the code, long live James 315. The code ALWAYS wins!!!!!

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    1. Yeah code won at AT - they ran like sheep off the edge of the cliff with pure fear and falcon wasn't condoning code, he was generalizing but it proves you are all desperate idiots

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  4. There should be a campaign to round up CCP Falcon and everyone else with a bad attitude in the office and show them the door. Highsec should be completely safe. Not just so i can mine all day myself and relax, but so we can retain players and grow.

    safe eve and get rid of these guys!

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    1. CCP Falcon is literaly Hitler. OUT!

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    2. Anyone enforcing the code in high sec, by killing not aspirants is in the new order, Wether they are an active code. Corp memeber or not.

      As this happened in James 315 sob space, this statement was about us and should be treated as such.

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    3. high sec is for everyone, code aren't the only gankers so you are talking rubbish

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    4. That is true Anon 12:30; however if you remove some of the roleplaying elements the code is simply a guide at how not to get ganked with an emphasis on pushing players away from mining (which is a rather boring activity). If you get ganked, you were not following the code, since any suicide gank in Highsec can be prevented through proper planning. Thus gankers are enforcing the code, even indirectly, because if you got ganked you weren't following it.

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    5. The Code is just a protection racket, pure and simple. They are New Eden's "mob" .Unless and until CCP decides to pass its own version of the RICO Act. (an unlikely and probably unworkable solution) deal with it. That being said, they ARE criminals, but "legal" ones, with respect to the game.

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    1. CCP rules only restrict nullsec alliance participation. They can join CODE. and gank all the miners and freighters they want. I know of some CODE. people who are personal friends with various devs and other CCP employees. As far as we know, James 315 could be CCP Falcon.

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    2. The new order is all ccp people. I'm unstalling. have fun with your game.

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    3. Why do you think they back out of CSM and AT? They can say theyre doing it but cant actually do it. CODE is BoB.

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    4. Undefeated in sucking balls. game not fair when people who run it also gank you on alts. selling plex to people for money then selectively blowing up their stuff in game might be illegal. someone should invetigate this

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    5. Not true, anon. CCP secret characters are not allowed to suicide gank. Changing this rule and allowing CCP to gank was one facet of James' CSM campaign before he withdrew.

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    6. Anonymous SupporterAugust 30, 2014 at 8:59 PM

      You should evemail Ripard Teg about this. In fact, you should make a cry for help from Ripard Teg, Dinsdale, and others on the forums. Be sure to use general discussion because that's where all the action happens.

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    7. Thanks 290, PROOF James is CCP: This is BULLSHIT

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    8. why do u think he doesnt gank people himself? He's Falcon.

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    9. James does gank people with his suicide alt, Currin Trading. This is actually proof that he is, in fact, not a dev. But don't let facts get in the way of your tinfoil. If you actually think James is CCP, petition Currin for an internal affairs audit.

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    10. LOL Code are laughing stock of Eve and Loyalanon are proved coward, when the chips were down they ran from RvB in AT LMAO

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  6. I was worried CCP would go soft to avoid drowning in tears, but that's amazingly good news to hear :)
    I should have known that Vikings never go soft. CCP I apologise for doubting you guys and gals. I salute your honour in this matter :)

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    1. DJ Entropy, what will you do if Falcon turns out to be tea total? lol

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    2. For me this is literally one of the best bits of news in relation to Eve that I have ever heard :)

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    3. Y'all exaggerate what Falcon said, he isn't condoning code in any way, he is simply saying what everyone should already know and it is a general statement about the game

      Code are so desperate they will grab on to anything LMAO

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    4. You are desperate DJ, Falcon said what we already know and what you are saying is same old bullshit but of course you have to make a drama out of everything because eve is your whole life - very sad

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    5. You use the word 'love' as a throw away word, more proof you are a lonely imbecile with no life or you would respect the word and use it for people you care about. That means real people and not code idiots in a game but you are so shallow and empty that wouldn't possible

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    6. You are creepy, gay and got aids plus you are a basket case with severe mental disorders - date Jerry Rin, he is equally crazy and has no life and a RL failure like you so go for it.

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  7. Please feel free to fuck off out of Eve. Maybe WoW or minesweeper would suit you better.

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  8. Go ahead; ProviBloc needs more PvPers and less AFK Carebears or HERO is going to start taking over.

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  9. awesome to see Eve living up to these standards :) :)

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  10. I would respond to your circumstances - but you can only post anonymously. You either don't care enough, or are too afraid to post on a character, even an alt. When you are too afraid to even stand up and be counted for when you pretend to believe in then that tells me you are one of life's slugs. Not worth listening too, and I the only time you are worth my attention is when I step on you by accident and now I have to go to the trouble scraping you off the bottom of my shoe. Enjoy the rest of your life hiding under rocks.

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  11. Falcon bomb really...

    Im glad CCP still supports the cruxt of eve.

    Im glad I was around when suicide ganking was easy and a solo pilot could live in the loot and insurance

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    1. The Falcon ALWAYS Wrecks for 315315315 DAMAGE!!!!!!

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    2. Wolf the Loyamorons children ALWAYS LOSE - daddy too busy sucking up to James 315 (his true love) to give a damn about his children

      LOYALANONS CHILDREN ALWAYS LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    3. You cry while carebears die and the CODE ALWAYS wins!!!!!!!!!!!

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    4. Wolf aka Loyal - your children CRY because you are a useless parent - James always wins!!!!!!!

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  13. That was directed at Provi Miner, I'm not sure why you'd get the idea it was addressed to you.

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  14. Wolf aka Loyalanon 'the pvp whimp' wrecked by RvB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ***CODE the OFFICIAL COWARDS OF EVE***

    ********Too scared to fight RvB in Alliance Tournament*********

    **********BANNED FOREVER FROM AT**********

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    1. haha look how hard your trying to stay relavent

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    2. yeah FACTS are always irrevalent on MB, only lies matter

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    3. right like the fact CODE is unddefeated in the AT

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    4. LMAO - running scared is the new code win LOL

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  15. Again exaggeration CCP didn't condone code in any way, it is was a general statement about the game and something everyone should know already but as usual MB exaggerates and lies and again it proves how desperate code are when you clutch on to anything LOL

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  16. The Falcon Punch!

    That's just mint! Bwhahahaha!

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    1. Colonel punch - fat old man in a wheelchair pretending to matter

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  17. Nothing changed it is exaggeration by code, what Falcon said isn't news, it is how Eve has always been - code are desperate as usual so they make a big deal out of nothing

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  18. You're right. Sorry my apologies. I find those constant Anon snipes so spineless. This time it was me getting the wrong end of the stick - my bad.

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  19. You realise the NO is totally self sufficient when it comes to ships and modules? Please stop making stuff in protest, I will enjoy the price rise.

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  20. what's that sound? oh yeah the sound of the carebears realizing every forum thread and angry petition has been a waste of time :) :)

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    1. If it wasnt for highsec freighter pilots you wouldnt be able to move your stacks of catalysts around. Think about THAT. Your all a bunch of siociopaths, FALCON INCLUDED!!!

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    2. AGREED. They dirtbags need to be banned, every last on of them! PVP needs to be banned from highsec that will fix it. otherwhise this game willdie when allusminers quit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    3. More petitions please!!!!!!

      CCP Falcon - Let the GM's and ISD's give out some FALCON PUNCHES in petition replies!!!!

      The Code ALWAYS wins!!!!

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    4. No thats the sound of hilmars fist hitting the desk repeatedly after dealing with falcon 315's fuckup as yet another subscriber leavves game.

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    5. is that a promise?

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    6. Hilmar as the founding father of CCP and Eve Online, had the "Cold harsh universe" foundation before he employed anyone else to the company.

      Do you know what's worse than someone unsubbing their account? A whiner who doesn't and wants the rules changed for their own personal entertainment. There are loads of other games that you could play, for example. Minecraft, Space Engineers, any survival game on steam.

      Honest question here, what do you play Eve for? If it's to relax, Eve is definitely not the game for that role. Try Space Engineers instead. It's not a dig it's an honest suggestion in the hope that you will find happiness in a different atmosphere as the amount of spurging and hate filled posts can't be good for anyone physically or mentally.

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  21. @ Anon 10:10 PM

    If you insist on going to extremes, here's the opposite case: if it was not for us, "bad" gankers, wardeccers, and other PvPers, the market would be flooded with undemanded ships and modules, so you'd be out of business. We consume the Catalysts and antimatter that you're making for us, and our victims have to buy bargers and mining lasers that their colleagues are making for them. You'll have to admit that you need us as much as we need you.

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  22. exaggeration? nah, seems pretty clear cut to me. judging by the deluge of tears generated I think it hits close to the mark

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  23. woah, cool out everyone. He's just saying to protect yourself geez is that really asking so much?

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    1. Ya, the carebear whining is terrible. Funny how I have basically never had a ship sucide ganked. People who use their brains don't need to cry to CCP for help, and the ones who cannot deserve to be blown up.

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    2. Veers was hated and redeemed in a same day, shows how the code hypocrites act - next one is hate so beware of the backstabbers

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    3. Anon 6:19 AM,

      You point up a curious situation, in which Mr Belvar's popularity appears to swing back and forth in a most alarming fashion.

      In other words, he 'veers' between the New Order and Something Else, attempting no doubt to forge his own path.

      Whatever his plans, he should have no difficulty in laying out a Manifesto.

      So, Veers Belvar, Open a new thread in the MinerBumping and EVE-O Forums. Publish your Manifesto, and be done with it.

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    4. Sasha,

      I think I've been reasonably consistent in my principles. As states, I oppose mining and think it should be removed from the game. While I personally do not condone suicide ganking, it is an important part of the game. People should be aware of that and take appropriate measures, such as fitting their ships properly and monitoring intel channels. I opposed the ehp buff for mining ships and haulers, because I think that as non-combat ships they should have thinner tanks. I do think it should be harder to gank combat ships. I oppose what I consider to be the unrealistic exploit of bumping ships to prevent them from escaping multiple waves of ganks.

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    5. Only person who hates anyone is you DJ, you play the hypocrite constantly either that or you have severe personality disorders but one thing is for certain, you are the most appalling diplomat ever and like loyalamoron you would be better keeping your big mouth shut because every time you speak you make code look worse.

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    6. Veers Belvar,

      Thank you. It is helpful to have this all in one place; the comments section is a bit challenging to negotiate lately.

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  24. CCP needs to get rid of all the New Order sympathizers in there ranks or this game is doomed and star citizen will win subscribers. I mine and haul to relax after along day work. we need protection from these pscyhopaths

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    1. Why not go to Star Citizen if Eve is the wrong game for you?

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    2. DJ the Code Diplomat shows the code way, he tells people to unsubscribe - what an hypocritical imbecile and again you show your hatred to anyone not code and to eve in general

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    3. id rather u all leave eve and go to star citizen and rune that game. leave us alone in eve to be in peace.

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    4. Not being snarky but Eve is advertised as a sandbox where the actions of every player affects every other player.
      http://www.eveonline.com/sandbox/
      "The Sandbox is the game world of EVE combined with the persistent actions of thousands upon thousands of players who interact with one another in a single-server environment.

      Your actions in the Sandbox can lead to the destruction of starships, the creation of a thriving corporation or the doom of an empire. Every action taken by every player affects the state of the Sandbox, and through it those actions affect every other player.

      The web of action and reaction in EVE leads to emergent gameplay where a single shot, business deal or even just a word can determine the destiny of thousands."
      http://www.eveonline.com/sandbox/pirate/
      "My prey of choice is other capsuleers, as they often provide the greatest rewards
      I setup ambushes at stargates or hunt in asteroid belts and other locations
      When unsuspecting ships fly into my trap or I find a target I strike
      I can demand a ransom for letting ships go or destroy them and seize their cargo"
      If this doesn't appeal to you then Eve may not be the game for you.
      It's not like they don't advertise exactly what eve is.....

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    5. There is no peace in Eve - that's the point.

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    6. DJ's lies translated to:

      I pretend to be a diplomat but I am useless at it. I pretend to like people but I hate anyone who is not code, I will again tell you to quit the game because for code people quitting is the main goal. I will also spout on about sadness and rage but both those are the traits I have constantly in the game and RL.

      I will then rinse and repeat and be sarcastic to cover up my hateful motives.

      And that folks is the code diplomat!!

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    7. Anon 6:26am: and who are you exactly?

      By their rage shall ye judge them...

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    8. I am who you want me to be but certainly a voice of truth whereas most on here are outright liars and yes they rage at me and I laugh continously

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  25. yeah tears from code because they don't understand falcon saying that means nothing because we already know about it so Jimmies forum post was a waste of time

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  26. I love the "miners make your stuff" argument. It's a pyramid just like any industry, and guess where you are?

    Henry Ford didn't walk around with a spanner in his hand all day. NASA engineers don't spend 90% of their time down mineshafts, pickaxe in hand. Most miners are terrible at industry.

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  27. While I would like to attempt a logical response to the "If miners stopped mining, there'd be no ships" argument, I feel for the majority of the anon posters I've read so far, that logic will go right over their heads as they continue to bury their heads in the sandbox of Eve and deny the truth even when it comes out of of the mouth (fingers) of a CCP employee.

    Do you know the second best thing about Eve over all the other MMO's? You're not limited to what you do in Eve. It's not a class locked society. You too can mine, refine, build, research, lead corporations; you can also shoot stuff, blow things up, steal what isn't nailed down, spy and sow doubt. You can even create an alt character on an existing account and troll the forums looking for tears and meta-content.

    In fact, you could do anything you want to within the rules of the game that you put your mind to. You could of course do things outside the rules of the game that CCP lays down, but that might be more trouble than its worth.

    The anonymous posters here have been so much more fun than the CCP Deniers on the official forums, perhaps it's because of the assumed anonymity where you don't have to post with an actual Eve character. While this isn't an Eve character, it wouldn't be too difficult to find my main and a few of my alts, if you were so inclined.

    I do this for two reasons, firstly I believe what I say, secondly I value the chance at being corrected, and I can only do that with a regular identity.

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  28. I fully agree with CCP's post. People should fit ships properly and accept that their ship may get alpha'd before CONCORD response, just like in Real Life. The police are there to come in after the crime is committed and clean up the mess, and to deal with the criminals, not to prevent all crime from occurring in the first place.

    What I object to, and will continue to raise as an issue on the forums, is the use of bumping to allow for multiple waves of ganking, without CONCORD response. A real life police force would arrest the bumpers, just like the police responding to attempted car theft would not let the thief's buddies hang around for 15 mins and prevent the car from moving, so the thief could just come back later and steal it. In this regard the game departs from a real life police force, and fails to follow the principles of highsec. Therefore the bumping mechanics, in this SPECIFIC context, require a change.

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    1. I'll try to respond in a constructive manner, not as a troll.

      Lazy fitting is not the crux of these idiot bears' problems; it's symptomatic.
      Their utter lack of situational awareness that makes them pop: again that's symptomatic.
      AFK/APing is - you see the pattern - is entirely symptomatic.

      The fault lies squarely and entirely with themselves. They do not apply the slightest thought to what they do, no risk assessment, nothing. This failure in self respect is what always kills them in the end.

      And that cannot fixed by anyone, let alone by CCP, except themselves. It's a horrible truth, but an axiom nevertheless.

      Dr Tyler

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    2. Brave RL Sever,

      You seem to think you've identified an exploit.

      If I understand you, the act of bumping in order to facilitate not one but multiple ganks is an unintended and disadvantageous use of a permitted game mechanic. That's not a precise definition, but you know what I mean.

      What I don't understand is why you will 'continue to raise (it) as an issue on the forums'. Surely, if it's that obvious you just submit it in the usual way to be assessed by CCP. If they agree, they patch it.

      But it isn't that kind of exploit, is it? It is, rather, a tactic, and a well-used and understood one in New Eden.

      If there are ways around it for the hapless freighter pilot - and I'm sure someone will tell me that there are - then perhpas you should use your presence on the Forums to publicise those.

      I just can't understand why, if your argument is so strong, you don't appeal directly to CCP.

      Or have you done so already?

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    3. Maybe you are better off playing real life instead of an imaginary space ships game if the imaginary game is not close enough to how real life behaves for you.

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    4. I raise it because CCP is incredibly reluctant to engage in any changes that require significant coding. The only way to achieve such changes is by (repeatedly) raising the issue on the forums, until the overwhelming din of voices forces CCP to act. I also enjoy seeing some of the responses, many of which seem to come from people (not DJ of course) who are almost certainly paid shills of the nullsec blocks, and who have an amazing ability to fail to grasp obvious points.

      Virm - Or I could explain how to slightly alter to game mechanics to make CONCORD act in a far more consistent and reasonable fashion. Which would you prefer?

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    5. Veers Belvar 4:40 PM,

      I think it was the 'overwhelming din of voices' - in the form of petitions - which forced CCP to wheel out Falcon recently. I've noticed a distinct change in the air since CCP Seagull took over the Executive Producer's Chair.

      What this might mean in terms of your quibbles, we don't know, but you will have to gather an awful lot of support to make your objections bear fruit.

      You are asking for yet another nerf to Highsec ganking.

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    6. Veers
      People aren't telling you you're wrong because they got paid to. They're telling you you're wrong because your arguements have been consistenly proved to have no merit and you've provided zero proof to support them, even to the point of refusing to every time you get challenged on it.

      The simple fact is, as CCP Falcon already pointed out, CCP does not agree with you and never will.

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  29. This is why the game is called EvE btw - It's Everyone Versus Everyone. That's the original idea behind the mechanics and while mechanics have been added, removed and rebalanced the original premise remains the same.

    Perhaps one day there will be a single player version of Eve, where mining WILL be a relaxing activity.

    Think how bad Eve would be if it was a single player game, or just as bad, allowed you to set up a personal server. Imagine trying to build a tech 2 ship from scratch doing the vast majority for yourself? The pos towers, the ice mining, the PI, the boredom for what? Seeing your vast industrial empire where no one else could touch it, or interact with it.

    Please, space engineers allows for small groups and consequence free PvP - the mining mechanic is vastly superior to Eve's borefest too.

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  30. Sigh, its not the mining that is the problem, nor is it the gankfest, nor even the stagnation of nullsec.....what is the problem is the people that come to EvE and refuse to believe in protecting their property. You dont put up a fence in RL to keep others out, you do it to keep your kids and pets in a safer area of control. You dont keep a sidearm or shotgun in the closet just for hunting or target practice.....you do it for the bastard that illegally enters your home intending theft, damage, or personal harm. What is wrong with doing the same in EvE...make a corp, get some combat training, keep a few ships on the ready for dec's or even take turns providing anti-gank defense in belts or for escort duty of your corp's precious materials going to market. RMT botting is the problem in many cases, laziness is the very real problem in EvE, if your not willing to fight with your corp mates to defend what you have built up, or attain control of local resources because you dont like PvP.....then get the fuck out of my Game. And yes its my game, ive played over 4 years, ive accumulated over 2 trillion isk in assets on my first main....as an indy guy. But ive been to nullsec, been in FW, been a ganker for political and resource control reasons....the thing is...is that I am Loyal to my first group of friends i made in EvE...i didnt abandon them, we fought back at every turn...most of us is still around and we shake our heads at the idiots who do nothing to protect themselves or betray their fellows when things get rough.
    Really this is the reason CODE. came into exsistence, because of those who if they acted in RL as they do in game they wouldnt be alive...or at least only live barely above squallor and filth. If you ignored Code, or actually truly banded together in a huge alliance and dec'd them they would have somewhat diminished power....but alas the majority of lazy asses and whiners would rather see EvE destroyed rather than learn to truly live in it.

    Do not get me wrong though, I do not endorse CODE itself....in fact im sure one of my main's and an alt are on their red pen list...i understand if they are still in secret manuevers of their true end goals and probably even their own indy support, in flux because they do not yet have the means to wage a real war....but can do so on a different level as gankers till they are ready. It is a day like that im looking forward to, because then i will be one of few or many already willing to take them head on when they reveal all that they truly have and want. That should also be the day all the lazy and whiner peeps should look at EvE and quit if they havent changed their ways....because both sides in such an epic fight will simply grind them to dust...because carebears are simply the pawns upon our chessboard, the npc player pieces we see when we look at star maps...and i say npc because a carebear might as well be an npc because those of you posting here....your worthless...except to be my bitch and maybe CODE's target practice for now.

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    1. I think you're more on our side than you think, Mr. Anon. You should mail me in-game if you want to take an active role against those lazy, complacent players in our game.

      290xanaots

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    2. Nice post. My thoughts exactly. +1

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    3. there are things i wouldnt mind seeing implemented like a revamped bounty system that maybe used actual contracts and special npc agents combined to complete bounties, or even (WiS) a court like system where a special bounty could be made and special module to capture pods could be utilized...a guilty verdict of a player would mean jail time or something. Maybe even force a sentence of the player doing something opposite of normal player....ie a ganker has to mine x amount of rocks, a miner has to kill x number of targets or players before they can climb into their usual ship class again....maybe even start forcing pirates to do real concord missions by getting a chance to be concord temporarily. But as to your offer...your Goonswarm...i am no longer opposed to Goons or CFC....but i have decided to be opposed to all Nullsec entities so until the day CODE members can no longer be traced back to Goons I will always see CODE (in a metagame perspective) as my enemy since they are Nullsec influenced until none of their members can be actually traced back to a nullsec entity successfully. I have a different goal in mind....not far different but still different in the operational procedures of CODE. or Foreign Null sec Sovereign Nations think Highsec....or at least my chosen Empire Faction should be maintained.

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    4. "...but i have decided to be opposed to all Nullsec entities so until the day CODE members can no longer be traced back to Goons..."

      I can promise you, not all are in any associated with Goons.

      Dr Tyler

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    5. ok sorry tyler...traced back to null entities

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    6. GSF, CODE., null entities in general--these are not your enemies. They are merely an opponent in a video game. Too many hisec players and anti-gankers do not understand this.

      As for null entities being involved in the New Order, that isn't how it is. I fly with the New Order on my own time. My alliance couldn't care less about hisec miners. There is no greater conspiracy. We do this because it is fun and helps the game. It really is that simple.

      I think that if you were willing to have a frank conversation, you would come to agree with what we're doing.

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    7. i did say from a meta-game perspective...i have chosen to make highsec my permanent home, i have chosen to try out a factional RP stance. One in which its Lore is much like having been steeped in a philosophy that would support something similar as CODE....in the issuance of taxation through permits. In that respect Null sec is seen as separate foreign sovereign entities. And that makes any Null my competitor and quite possibly my enemy, can you guess which faction?

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    8. 290X - we hear your frank conversations - do as we ask or we will destroy your mining ship and then we will wind you up and try to get you angry and then there are people like loyalanon who are so full of rage they make personal insults about a person's dead wife or karma balancer who was banned for being racist. Code wants to be respected but it is full of assholes who don't respect anyone

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    9. "You dont keep a sidearm or shotgun in the closet just for hunting or target practice"
      Sure I do, because I'm not a psychotic American

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    10. I see that this thread is a couple of years old at this point in the conversation.

      Each player-created and run faction attempts to accomplish something and exert some kind of influence over the imaginary world of virtual spaceships. The impression the Code and it's agents give to me is a revolutionary who uses his superior reasoning ability to best all detractors. They also give the impression to me of a protection racket. People involved in organized crime also reason in the mild manner of the agents of the Code - that is, until they start breaking kneecaps to make their point. The 10 mil isk "permit" and the act of ransoming only reinforce this impression.

      Harrassing pilots uninvited also has this effect.

      The other impression given is that these guys are highly skilled in the art of trolling. Specifically - rile people up and then eat some popcorn while you watch them go. It gets worse when you act smooth, so that the victim looks like the jerk.

      Admittedly this sort of thing does make the game less boring and requires active engagement. But try committing such crime in real life and see if the victims would agree, or the police tasked with enforcing the law.
      Such activities rarely ever earn praise or thanks - but instead is considered unjust.

      So, fine . . . we prep ourselves- we're better at playing the game - more competitive - but are we actually enjoying the process?

      Imposing your will or that of a portion of the player base - specifically targeting "lazy players" with an attitude that smacks of entitlement -
      feeling entitled to make your own rules
      entitled to justify your policy in order to make objectors look foolish
      - smacks of socio-pathic traits.

      You find it odd that people get mad when you go after them uninvited?
      You think that logging onto the game is already an open invitation to target them specifically?
      You like the single-minded pursuit of an ideal at the expense of others?

      You like to reason like a rapist? How interesting.

      So, please, tell me more about how you like to kick a guy when he's not looking
      and then how dumb he is for getting upset.
      I imagine it works just the same in real life, yes?

      I'm sure agents of peaceable institutions and trusted members of society
      are expected to take advantage of unsuspecting people
      and then praised for calling it "tough-love".

      But of course, this game is not real life.
      It's just populated by players who still have to live in it.

      If you want to act honorably - then feel free to start doing so.
      If you want to act criminally - please continue in the manner with which you are accustomed.

      If you want to convince us that you are right in your current course of action,
      perhaps you should stop trying so hard.

      So go ahead - flex your power - exert your enfluence - speak your words -
      Just like every other imaginary character in the virtual world of this game.
      You will have your reward in full
      and then - In the end - you die in 70 or 80 years.

      What a senseless waste of human life.

      Sorry about the lengthy post
      - just needed to get that off my mind.

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  31. Eve is dying anyways. This is all irrelevant.

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    1. RIP.

      But until it's completely dead, I'll keep playing and blowing up miners. You should join me!

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    2. Durrrrrrr I am a brainless ganker, I shoot miners, I am so brave and if eve ends I don't care and we win cos high sec was nuked by the big eve power off switch LOLZ

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    3. As Agent CCP Falcon wrote, Eve losing its cold, dark, harsh nature would be its death. I would rather Eve die a noble death as a unique sandbox than be corrupted and twisted to be something it is not.

      I can confidently say that if you do not agree with that, you have no business in my Eve, and I will blow you up until you either agree or understand that Eve isn't for you.

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    4. that would be AWESOME!!! CCP announced server shut-down day, and until then everything is destructible, and CONCORD is offline!

      It'd be worth it for EvE to die. Just to see that.

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    5. AnonymousAugust 31, 2014 at 3:06 PM - that would work if person was a miner armed with only a mining laser but I am an highly skilled pvp player and you are a coward like the ones who ran from AT so I will beat you everytime so by your standards then go ahead and quit coward

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    6. ...says the little bear. Post with your main, if you're learnt to shave yet.

      Or are you too scared of losing your ship?

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    7. LMAO Dr T has another rage fit - No one is scared of code, they ran at AT LOL

      Thanks for your tears :))))))))

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  32. Feel free to check out my forum posts on bumping freighters, where I once again outwit and outclass the usual nullbears.

    https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4970801#post4970801

    https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4970796#post4970796

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  33. And Wolf Soprano just take down by anti-gankers in Uedama - beautiful - the emperor truly has no clothes. I will post zkillboard link when available.

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    1. Was this the kill you had nothing to do with? stop taking our credit.

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    2. Oh DJ you mean like how TasKu (who has alt code player) reacted when he lost his Machariel and he made remarks about Gorila Vengazas wife who has passed away and then Loyalanon kicked in with his hatred?

      You seem to be oblivious to how code really act and again you are being totally dishonest which is par for course and it shows what a total hypocrite and liar you are.

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    3. Ya, I will just point out that Wolf Soprano certainly did not give any GF, rather he complained that the it was 10 on 1, and logged out of local. He also used profanity in local, and has been falsely claiming that the freighters he killed are "AFK incursion runners." So you can spare us the tripe about the wonderful and happy CODE agents.

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    4. AnonymousAugust 31, 2014 at 6:36 AM

      Are you forgetting about the time that Gorila sanctioned Fallen seal to make a mockery of vile rats death?

      Hypocrite.

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    5. @Veers

      [ 2014.08.31 03:50:12 ] Luis Alejandro Flores > I mission outside of the CODE's jurisdiction
      [ 2014.08.31 03:51:54 ] Liliandra Drago > YES!
      [ 2014.08.31 03:51:58 ] DrysonBennington > nice
      [ 2014.08.31 03:52:04 ] Liliandra Drago > well done
      [ 2014.08.31 03:52:05 ] Wolf Soprano > gf
      [ 2014.08.31 03:52:06 ] Fallen SEAL > LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
      [ 2014.08.31 03:52:06 ] Wolf Soprano > 10 people
      [ 2014.08.31 03:52:09 ] Malachird > lololol
      [ 2014.08.31 03:52:14 ] Liliandra Drago > hahahahahaha
      [ 2014.08.31 03:52:23 ] Meo Xantem > o/ gf
      [ 2014.08.31 03:52:39 ] Wolf Soprano > no
      [ 2014.08.31 03:52:40 ] Wolf Soprano > i said gf
      [ 2014.08.31 03:52:44 ] Bronson Hughes > What was I just saying about betting on stupid? Kill: Wolf Soprano (Omen Navy Issue)
      [ 2014.08.31 03:52:58 ] Luis Alejandro Flores > the fits not bad
      [ 2014.08.31 03:53:04 ] Luis Alejandro Flores > probably wouldn't go with 3 CCCs though
      [ 2014.08.31 03:53:09 ] Wolf Soprano > Liliandra Drago how come you were not on the killmail?

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    6. To AnonymousAugust 31, 2014 at 6:36 AM - Hi Loyalamoron hiding behind an anon - we know you can never forget the fallen seal non-incident but get over it, that thing happened months ago and you still bleat like a little baby? It is not like you even knew vile rat, none of you did but it suits you to lie and be fake because it is part of your sick code agenda.

      Difference is loyal, you know Gorila and you were his friend and even now you make jokes about his wife - you are one sick selfish b*stard and that is putting it nicely and I can only hope people say bad things to you when you lose a loved one.

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    7. Anyone else notice that your the only one talking about his dead wife, get over it, she died, it's got nothing to do with eve, move one. No one cares anymore and the more it's mentioned the more awkward it gets cause nobody but gorila and his family cares, the way it should be not some random people on a game about internet spaceships

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    8. yeah loyal is always so nice, in e-mail below, he encourages people to wind up Gorila

      From: Loyalanon
      Sent: 8/9/2014 4:39:00 PM
      Hi Guys,
      As you are probably aware - Vengaza is back and most likely going to whine about the NO/Code in anyway possible.
      Just be mindful of what you say in Local etc as he will use anything against you to try and get you banned - he tried on me and failed so whatever.
      Just remember and I quote Vengaza Directly -
      - Everyone has an entitlement to an opinion
      - There exists free speech
      So saying that, if you want to make him cry then by all means do it.
      I personally wont be saying anything in local unless he says anything but we will see.
      Let the tears begin.

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    9. Good thing there's nothing you can do to loyalanon but fill the comments section with juicy tears. Last I checked loyal is still blowing players up on a daily basis.

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    10. To Anon,

      It appears that I missed that in local. I do apologize to Mr. Soprano for accusing him of being a bad sport, it appears that he did respond sportingly in local. Obviously I still do have valid complaints with him, including his continued trolling by labeling ganked freighters as "afk incursion runners," his banning me from the CODE public channels, and his occasional use of profanity in local.

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    11. loyal is known to be a terrible sport and for always crying and raging in local - he is probably the biggest tantrum baby on eve and now the biggest coward after the AT run I am so scared incident

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  34. Heh! White knights indeed! We are the true white knights! The followers of the Lion of HighSec, James 315.

    Veer's- Read the code, embrace it, live it. It is a way of life, the Path to happiness, wealth, and adventure in HighSec. Convo me if you have any questions, then we can go convert some non-believers and then go destroy the wicked. :)

    - Hugo Paynes

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  35. The saddest part about all this is not the tears. It is how CCP Failcon can talk about a core tenet of EVE that the vast majority agree with but do it in a way that is insulting to customers, proclaims that he would rather see EVE burn than change in a way not to his liking and wheels out his tired old “rumour mongering” meme.

    Classic aggression from an a thug who thinks he is a hammer and sees everything else as a nail.

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    1. Perhaps you should log a petition complaining he didn't sugar coat the truth for you.

      I'm sure that will help

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    2. Wow. Amazing. You took the time out of your day to post a reply yet didn't wonder if you had completely missed to point.

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    3. delicious tears @graic

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    4. As your "point" is a disgusting ad hominem on someone who cannot rebut in this forum, I have to agree with Anon's comment.

      What delicious tears you have there graic.

      Dr Tyler

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    5. Yeah it is always about tears that's all there is right? When will you little boys grow up and realize it is a game? What you should be crying about is your RL because from what I can tell code and other gankers are all failures

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    6. @graic what point was that?.

      That u think ccp falcon is a bully because he doesn't agree with high sec being 100% safe and he would rather leave then give in to cry baby carebears and u don't think that's true? I got your point, it was just pointless....

      The thing is, that you or any carebear cannot see is this game is more than isk per hour or yield per cycle, take the good with the bad and if u don't like it, go play another game or go try something new in the game, don't cry on the forums

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    7. To the anonymous coward posting at 11:14am: thank you for your exquisite tears!

      Show some self respect and man up for once in your life and inform us of your main's identity. Be all you can be brah!

      Now, given the amount of tears - such sweet delicious tears! - that this single thread has produced, especially from you, I'd say the forces of right have won and will continue to win.

      I offer you the chance to enumerate your many successes right here and now. Don't be shy!

      Dr Tyler

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    8. @412nv Yaken My Lord. There is not a facepalm great enough. Please stop. You're only embarrassing yourself now.

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    9. Well, even you must see the hypocrisy of accusing others of failures, yet fail in your failure to enumerate any of your wins. I'm sure it won't be hard to prove them, so why not give it a shot?

      Dr T

      P.S. I'm not a Lord - thank heavens - I'm a Doctor.

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    10. Dr Tyler - you aren't a doctor, you are a moron with no life and a cowardly ganker. Most you will ever be is a 300 lb slob deadbeat who wanks off to pictures of Ero 1 and sucks on his mama's tits. Your prospects in life is getting fatter, depression and mental illness and you are probably half way there. You talk of tears in a lame video game but really they are about you and your sad little life LMAO

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    11. And how would you know? You've never even seen me.

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    12. Dr T - LMAO keep it coming loser - go weep on your pillow abour your life LOL

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  36. Reminding carebears that ccp is sick of your crying.

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  37. more sick of code whining - check out the loyalanon rage fit to CCP over the AT ban - it was epic

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  38. Eve Online is a simulation. Are you 100% safe from crime in the City centre in rl? Of course not. Same in Eve. I'm not a suicide ganker (although I am -10) and I generally leave the real carebears alone. However I fully support the ability to do this in game. If you drive your flash car filled with expensive goods into the ghetto and get car-jacked, it's no good whining to the police that they didn't stop it. Same in Eve.

    Make Eve 100% safe = kill Eve. Falcon is right.

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    1. Wolf aka LOYALANONS CHILDREN ALWAYS LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Hey where his daddy? Oh he is playing Eve, you know he loves it more than you. But I hurt my arm mummy, won't daddy take me to the hospital? No sorry dear Eve comes first (true story - ask him)

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    2. It's nice to see the anti gankers are out crying in force today.

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    3. you mean you loyal posting as anon - and only people crying are your children lol

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  40. ***CODE the OFFICIAL COWARDS OF EVE***

    ********Too scared to fight RvB in Alliance Tournament*********

    **********BANNED FOREVER FROM AT**********

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  41. Non Compliant Bot Aspirant Large Mining Op Going On

    CORP: Void Merchants [VOME]

    Toons:

    Avner Ananas
    Raven Ananas
    Revan Ananas
    Vaner Ananas
    Loren Zeta


    Location: Uosusuokko

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    1. Freighter In Use as well.

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    2. All of this rage, anger, frustration, this mighty burden you are carrying, you could throw off by simply embracing the Code, accepting James 315 as your savior, and pay a small tithe of 10 mil as a token of your faith. Let me help you find religion, brothers. - Hugo Paynes.

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    3. yeah hugo keep taking your meds, if you believe in a computer game character then you are totally mental

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  42. Falcon is a bully encouraging harrassment. I mine with 40 accounts and help keep PLEX prices high, encouraging people to buy PLEX. CCP basicly makes money off my accounts i plex every month.

    BAN CCP FALCON, CYBER BuLLY

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  43. anon 2:28. Star citizen is that way *points to the eve online unsub button*

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  44. Someday carebears will learn that null sec is actually safer than high sec. They just don't understand null sec. They think because there is no CONCORD it's more dangerous.

    They need to try being a null bear for a while.

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    1. If I may ask, how IS nullsec safer then highsec>

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    2. If you are with the right group that uses Intel channels for your region, your system is in the right location, you stay aligned (to a POS not a station) and monitor local, you can Pve all day long and quadruple the isk you make in high sec.

      Find a region you want to live in, contact the owner and apply. If they ask for ISK up front, it's a scam.

      In high sec you never know who is friendly and who is not. In Null sec, it's easy to tell

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    3. And how dangerous was it getting null to that state in the first place?

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  45. HIGHSEC should have no pvp. If anough of us demand it in forum, it will happen.

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    1. And all that can be yours for a measly 10 million ISK and complete compliance with the Code.

      What could be simpler?

      Dr Tyler

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    2. This article makes me want to gank a freighter...

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  46. Beautiful tears. Scream some more please about how you think you're smart. I'll grab my popcorn.

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  47. I will consecrate my catalyst with your sacred tears. Know that when I find you, unbeliever, that I will destroy you. For I have been blessed by The Holy One of HighSec: James 315!

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    1. Is that an in-game threat or a RL threat?

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    2. I have impersonators - I must be space famous! Thanks James 315!

      The Real Dr Tyler

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    3. Nah... he is just a bad imitation John Gotti :D

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    4. Dr T is bipolar everyone knows that LOL

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    5. Please insert Sound of balls dropping here!

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  48. From ear splitting rage to incoherent laughter. Yep, we have a live one here.

    I concur - more tears please - and are you sure the insurance is enough for your loss? I doubt it, so get back and scrub more roids.

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  49. CCP Falcon, honorary Agent of the New Order, stuns carebear masses with brutal goodposting. New Order celebrates another glorious victory. More news to follow.

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    1. Falcon's days are numbered. Waiting on Ripard Teg to help and other honorable men. Together we can make eve a fun game and get rid of this asshattery.

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    2. Way to go carebears! You've now sunk to threatening a CCP employee.

      Good ladies and gentlemen of Eve, is this a new despicable low?

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    3. Falcon wasn't referring to code, he was generalizing, code are desperate and this all shows how really desperate they are

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    4. This makes no sense - if it's not fun now, why are you playing it?

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  50. If you really didn't care you wouldn't come here and spout profanity and tears.....just saying.....

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  51. over exaggeration again, falcon was generalizing, code are pathetic and desperate so you grasp on to anything

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  52. Veers - shut the hell up, I am tired of your ranting and all of you go to hell, I am so mad and crying with rage

    Dr Tyler

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  53. DJ - this is an imposter above, as you'd surely recognise. Quite pathetic really.

    Your friend,
    Dr Tyler PhD and all round nicest man in Eve

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  54. But James for years you have whined about the softening of Eve by CCP, Generating threadnoughts at tmc and eve-o forums. But now CCP says they don't - so you were wrong they were always right?

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  55. LMAO what a dope and pretentious liar too. You are nobody Dr T and making up lies about having a PHD makes you a complete joke LOL

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  56. Really glad to see there are still a GM that can think for himself.. Good Job Falcon!

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  57. It's time to for the James315 Burn per your religious texts. "How was God Created?" "Who Created God?", "When was God Created?", "Where was God Created?" "Why was God Created?", "What was God Created with?" If James 315 can answer all of these questions then he can claim to be master of all.

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  58. Hrhrhrhr... :D Sweet tears in Jita - a monument of mtu shows CODEs crying to community.

    Now you had a Falcon punch, I hope you enjoy your own medicine guys, we will not miss your 40 permabanned members.

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