Finding a good corp to join can be tricky for new EVE players. There are so many pilots out there with so many skillpoints, corp recruiters can get away with requirements like, "You must have 10m SP to join" or "You must have 30m SP to join". Where can a brand-new player find a home? Where can newbros meet some friends and learn how to play the game? The New Order, that's where.
A disenfranchised young newbie with few opportunities in this high-skillpoint economy, Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri heard about the fight for highsec and applied to New Order Logistics. Before long, he was making history.
As a new player, Agent Salah had a special affinity for those highsec residents who were just beginning their EVE careers. He became like their big brother. I don't know why the term "big brother" has such a negative connotation.
Salah's scouting alt, Saif al-Islam al-Jawahiri, came across a 7 day-old character mining ore in a Magnate-class frigate. Which is ridiculous. Said newbie, Elisha Avada, chose the ship because it has a larger cargo bay than a Venture does. She didn't know anything about ore bays.
Salah understood that Elisha was acting out of ignorance. However, he also knew that Elisha was setting a bad example for others: A carebear should not be seen in public mining with a Magnate. He admonished her.
I don't know where she got this idea, but somehow Elisha thought highsec was a place where people can do whatever they want, "without any issues". Agent Salah instructed the miner that she was required to obey the Code.
Note the compassion shown by our Agent. He was authorized to shoot the carebear on sight, but because she was a newie, he gave her a warning. He even told her what to do and how to play the game. What a guy! Salah ad-Din was one chivalrous knight.
You gotta get 'em young. Cigarette companies know this. The New Order knows it, too. Only seven days into the game, Elisha's head was already filled with all sorts of nonsense. She felt she was entitled to mine AFK and disregard the Code. If only an Agent had gotten to her sooner.
Salah shared his beliefs with the miner. And he hoped, for Elisha's sake, that he was getting through to her.
The New Order is nothing if not persistent. If one route is blocked, we'll find another one. The rational approach wasn't working for Salah. Elisha wasn't interested in the Code's logic. It was time for another approach.
Using Saif as a warp-in, Salah dropped his ganker on the mining Magnate and successfully destroyed it. Salah was a new ganker with few skillpoints, but New Order fighters punch above their weight. Absolute faith in the cause and total fearlessness make for a potent combination. Elisha's quadruple-anti-tanked frigate and a hull repairer(!) were no match for him.*
* Yes, that's a structure-tanking fit with four structure-reducing cargo expanders.
Salah anticipated that the gank might be misinterpreted as a hostile act. But before he could explain himself, Elisha let loose.
The carebear refused to see the bigger picture. She only cared about holding onto her possessions. The integrity of the game was of no importance to the greedy young bot-aspirant.
Elisha never considered how her refusal to obey the Code might be damaging the highsec community. Talk about tunnel vision! Although Salah wasn't able to rescue Elisha that day, he was able to inflict some isk damage against the carebear. Taking away a miner's stuff is almost as good as teaching them. Pleased, Salah prepared himself for his next mission. This was a success that he could build upon.
Excellent work Salah, I couldn't have handled the situation you were placed in any better than how you did. I look forward to hearing more about your endeavours in the future!ReplyDelete
The Code Always Wins!Delete
All noobs to eve take a beating, be it pvp, pve or indy work like mining. The true spirit of a noob is to want to be the best in his/ her field. This means a loss sometimes to make long term gains. I.E. for a miner, its learning to tank, adapt to surroundings. EVEN LEARN TO GANK, THE BOTSDelete
But more importantly have fun along the way and make friends.
It should noted that Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri was the cowardly idiot who was also ganking noobs in ventures in noob systems and received a warning from CCP (and maybe even a ban - he didn't play for a week).Delete
I like how MB paints the agents as being so wonderful when they are a-holes who hate Eve and everyone in it and would like to see the game destroyed.
It's easy enough to see how true that is, let us examine each of your claims about Salah in turn:Delete
Week long break(s), sure? Nothing I don't do myself on a regular basis. And nothing Salah hasn't done before according to his killboard https://zkillboard.com/character/94645549/page/4/
I doubt you are privy to ccp's or Salah's private conversations.
The 1.0 and 0.9 systems he does have kills in during 'Ad-venture August' are amarr, ashab, Kor-Azor Prime and Hedion https://zkillboard.com/character/94645549/page/2/. No rookie systems there my friend. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Systems
You're not the same idiot who was advising Sylvia Ross that hek is a rookie system are you?
Cowardly idiot? A new order agent? Patently absurd, this is impossible.
Methinks that somebody is slandering a noble knight of the new-order, nothing you have claimed can possibly be true. It should be noted that in reality Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri is a noble agent on a most holy mission, to cleanse high-sec of all those who refuse to follow James 315 (peace be upon him) and pay the entirely reasonable 10 million for a mining-permit.
You see my friends, how the care-bears lie to further their agenda? This and the mittani are the only websites you can trust to tell you the true story. Keep up the good work Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri, soon we will convert all of high-sec to our way of thinking.
inb4 the carebears think this was just an attack on a weak ship and not an attack on a weak mindset.ReplyDelete
Killing genuine newbies is pretty lame, sorry :/ReplyDelete
In a mining game, yes it would be lame. But this is not a mining game. This is EVE; you know, the game about spaceship combat. I would say she just recieved her first lesson.Delete
The guy who ganked the newbie is also a newbie. Also he gave SO much warning. So much. Hopefully a lesson well learned for the miner (though I doubt it)Delete
Well done, Salah!ReplyDelete
You were inspired by The Code to bring the flame of Truth to bear upon the sins of the hapless Elisha Evada.
May I say "Кодекс всегда побеждает!"?
Well, I did. The Code doth always prevail.
"You gotta get 'em young. Cigarette companies know this. The New Order knows it, too."ReplyDelete
Sooooo... The New Order causes cancer?
But yeah, I enjoy most of the stories here, but this one... ehhh. Not big on picking on players that seem legitimately new.
Anyways, that last sentence makes me wonder if there's a part two coming up.
As mentioned in the post, or found out by a cursory look at the ganker's bio, you'll find that the ganker is ALSO a new player.Delete
I wouldn't consider 2-1/2 month old pvp toon a "brand-new player". This story is akin to a pre-schooler beating up a baby. And that "brand-new player" is an obvious alt.Delete
Ganking newbies, elite pvp at it's finest, jeez, you should consider entering a pvp tournament. Oh wait...
Well, if every new ganker is only an alt, can we also say that every new miner is also an alt?Delete
Guess nobody is a newbie.
"I wouldn't consider 2-1/2 month old pvp toon a 'brand-new player'."Delete
I'm reading between the lines here, but you would consider a 2-1/2 month old non-PVP character a newbie? What is special about PVP that makes a PVPer a non-newbie faster than a PVE playstyle?
Is it the focus of the SP on the character? If this is the case then "newbie" is a choice of SP focus available to anybody.
Is it knowledge the PVPer has over the PVEer? I don't think so. Agent Salah did everything in his power to empower the newbie by sharing his knowledge. The newbie had only to reach out and grasp that knowledge--he did not.
"Newbie" is a mindset. It is a self-imposed state of perceived inability and weakness. It has nothing to do with gametime or SP, and it *is* a choice. Groups like BNI subvert the newbie mindset and prove every day that a newbie doesn't have to be powerless or useless or at the mercy of a more experienced player.
The "newbies" of Eve are the ones that refuse to adapt or learn for whatever reason. They do not deserve your pity; their failure is their choice.
"This story is akin to a pre-schooler beating up a baby."Delete
Do you seriously believe the crap you type, Anon 406? Playing a video game is not akin to punching a baby, you sociopath. Learn how to function normally and separate a minor conflict in a game from a serious problem in real life.
lol, ad-hominems are the best way to debate, usually indicating your weak position and ultimate failure. The analogy is indicative of the situation presented and illustrates the difference between the capabilities of the characters presented in the blog.Delete
A pvp toon can achieve proficiency with t2 fittings much quicker than a miner can. Fact. Regardless, the analogy between the two is still relevant. I should have added that the pre-schooler is armed with a bat.Delete
Anon 1009, even though you dress it up in fancy rhetoric, you are ultimately unintelligent if that is your best tool for debate.Delete
He tried his hardest, gave her fitting and ship advice but was ignored because she thought this was WOW.ReplyDelete
You can only do so much...
You are more correct than the carebears care to realize.Delete
Yeah, as a muslim, that part is funny...Delete
Is it just me or does she look like a crazy cat lady?ReplyDelete
Only an alliance wow player would get that joke.Delete
***CODE the OFFICIAL COWARDS OF EVE***ReplyDelete
********Too scared to fight RvB in Alliance Tournament*********
**********BANNED FOREVER FROM AT**********
***CODE the OFFICIAL WINNERS OF EVE***Delete
********Undefeated in Alliance Tournament*********
**********VICTORY FOREVER IN AT**********
Laugh Code are so cowardly and desperate, they will turn anything into a win LMAO - keeping running scared from anyone who can pvp code you are the laughing stock of Eve nowDelete
(12:10:05 AM) mynnna: James315 withdrew from the CSM race because he was actually a false flag candidate put forward by goons (he used to be a goon did you know that? true story) to distract from and basically kill anyone running on the "fix the economy" platform, which of course goons don't actually like because it would make nullsec a wonderful and valuable place to live in, which would mean someone would actually want to take it from us.ReplyDelete
Another LOSS for the code.ReplyDelete
Shooting a 7 day old rookie -> Superlame codie style
rookie is SMART, does not pay any ISK
talks of fits but does the rookie even have the ISK for that?
CODE. cowardly griefers, that are so lowly they bask killing rookies and even don't understand, that they approve, that this was a lost.
***CODE the OFFICIAL COWARDS AND LOSERS OF EVE***
Nice story, good to get an early education in EveReplyDelete
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri isn't a new player, but a new alt. It's of no surprise to me that Jimmy and code don't know the difference.ReplyDelete
Nice job you code faggots. Another player who will not subscribe to the game because of you. Keep doing this and nobody will want to play anymore. If ganking someone isn't a hostile act, then why does CONCORD show up to kill your ship? Maybe I should submit a 3rd party harassment complaint to CCP and let them know what has transpired.ReplyDelete
Hello Anonymous @4:57, thank you for lodging your concerns about how The New Order conducts business.Delete
To answer your concern, I would like to direct you to this minerbumping article (http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/01/ccp-study-vindicates-new-order.html) Where James links to the minutes of a CSM8 meeting where the ex-CCP Economist Dr. EyjoG explains that the absolute worst method of retention of new players in EVE Online is to let them mine and do other carebear activities Un-interrupted. By engaging these new players via ganking and presenting them with emergent gameplay, new players are far more likely to stay in the game rather than end their subscriptions.
To your second comment, more like a threat - please do file a 3rd party harassment complaint to CCP. I am very curious what the end result would be.
There is more code fallacy logic at work with that comment there Kalorned...The original article was meant to indicate that engagement of the new players was important...although engagement does include your anal playstyle, it is not limited to it...it would be fare better for the new players to experience less of you code monkeys and more CCP coreographed engagement, or even promotions to get new players into player corps that will treat them properly (ie.: not scamming or awoxing them)...Delete
"engagement does include your anal (huehuehue) playstyle"Delete
If you already realize that, then that is all you need to say, so I guess you should: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzqCFL5To3M
Ask and ye shall receive. I submitted the complain to CCP. From past experience, all they tell me is that they will investigate the matter. In fact, I think it's actually better for the players to quit on their own several months down the road than to have them quit during the trial. At least CCP gets the subscription money for those few months that the player is active. By ganking them and driving them away from the game, you have denied CCP that revenue.Delete
code has no balls to fight vs AT so they need to shoot newbies that lern that gameReplyDelete
the code never fails to disappoint......well done once againReplyDelete
The kill was from a month ago?ReplyDelete
Check a few posts back.Delete
CodeHQ is a mess at the moment.
I promise you, "CodeHQ" is simply enjoying business as usual - lots of lulz, creating emergent gameplay, and enjoying EVE online. Perhaps your top secret decoder ring that allows access to "CodeHQ" is not set to the right setting? Also, the top secret handshake has changed - and we are thinking of moving to an abandoned missile silo somewhere in Arizona as soon as I can figure out how to get a few fiber lines running into it.
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