Sasha Nyemtsov is the man with the golden voice. He has been systematically translating written Code-related materials into dazzling audio recordings--impressing even the nastiest of carebears. Today's entry, the first part of the Manifesto II. For those less familiar with our history, the Manifesto II is a pre-Order forum post (which was written by yours truly and, like others, can be accessed via our Links page) that sets forth much of the New Order's philosophy. It is notable for predicting the barge buffs and other nerfs to highsec PvP. It is also the longest post anyone has ever made on EVE-O.
As you might expect, the entire Manifesto II cannot be recorded all at once; Sasha is only doing one part at a time. The first section is "The Accusation".
Watch out Bobbins! Veers Belvar has become the latest gadfly of the MinerBumping comments. He claims to support the Code, but is adamantly opposed to suicide ganking. (General Belv, seen below, is his alt.)
The New Order is as open and welcoming a community as any in EVE. Recently, Agents of the New Order including loyalanon and others invited Veers to join them on TeamSpeak for a polite exchange of ideas. The question of the day: What would Veers do if he were given decision-making power, rather than simply posting comments? Veers took the opportunity to express his vision of a "moderate" New Order. Veers criticized today's Agents for adhering to an extreme interpretation of the Code that condones violence and distorts the original, peaceful Code taught and practiced by the Saviour.
This recording is a long one, and its continuation is found here.
Though there can be only one outcome, these kinds of conversations are healthy because they implicitly accept the premise that the Code is the law of highsec and must be obeyed. That is a lesson all the rebels of highsec would do well to learn.
sigh....your ideas of bot-aspirancy are so full of horse shit.....incursions are near next to impossible to afk program....not to mention....its required to be on a voice channel in an incursion fleet...not there you dont into fleet. As to mining, effeciency and ISK values are tripled for the miner that is not AFK...and those that are multiboxing...I am sorry your jealous someone has figured out how to make more ISK than you can for whatever reason. And you are not the law of highsec, point to me in lore where you exsist and that your the law?ReplyDelete
You misinterpret the campaign against incursion runners. They are abhorrent in the eyes of The Code is because they show no shame when fitting their ships for maximum isk/hr, sparing no thought to the fact that another player may wish to blow them up. They are exactly the same as a miner flying a hulk with nothing but MLUs and ice harvesting upgrades fit.Delete
You are obviously clueless about incursions....stick to tic-tac-toe buddy.Delete
"abhorrent in the eyes of The Code is because they show no shame when fitting their ships for maximum isk/hr,"... hilarious. Do you even hear yourself??? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds!Delete
Do you have a link to the Manifesto? I'd be interested in reading it (can't listen to the words of the new order at work).ReplyDelete
It sounds like your "work" doesn't support the Code. Seems to me like it is time to get a new job. I would not work for someone who didn't support the New Order. All R/L employers should post the Code in workplaces and not only fully support but promote the Code as it applies to every-day life.Delete
Then by your logic, if you support the code in real life, then you must also support real-life suicide ganking. I can see the headlines now:Delete
EvE Online Player Kills Office Workers, Shot Dead by Police
So someone like....Loyalanon, armed with an AR-15, goes into an office. He sees bot-aspirancy everywhere as he observes people writing reports, filing paperwork, and having phone conversations in what seems to be a well choreographed auto-piloting scheme. Pushed to insanity by what he sees, he yells out "Bow down to your lord and savior, James 315" and then proceeds to spray the office with bullets. Many dehumanized "bots" are put out of their misery of a boring highsec. The police are called. Loyalanon turns his gun on the police and they take him out with a head-shot. From outside, a very loud "headshot" is heard as some omniscient presence keeps score and posts the results on the killboards.
CODE: They advocate real life murder/suicide-by-cop for perceived code violations because they cannot separate fantasy from reality.
The only good thing about the above scenario, is that the suicide ganker will only be able to do it once.Delete
wow just wow. "antiganker logic"Delete
Anon @ 8:53Delete
Carebears don't "do" sarcasm or most forms of comedy very well, as you can see. Stick to jokes about bodily functions or sexual orientation, you have to know your audience :P
Nothing wrong with my logic. I'm using a plausible real-world scenario (granted with poetic license) to attack Nitetime Video's argument.Delete
Sadly, with some of the personalities that I have encountered on this blog, and elsewhere, I can see this happening. In fact, it has happened, although for different reasons.
"antiganker logic" Totally true!!!! nice!!!!Delete
BM the difference is that his post was satire... Wtf is wrong with you.Delete
Nothing is wrong with me. I provided a hypothetical scenario of what could happen based on some of the personalities on this blog and in-game. Granted, I did it with poetic license, but still.Delete
Sadly, this has happened multiple times in real life, although for different reasons (person getting fired, getting yelled at by their boss, problems at home, mental dysfunction, etc...). I am not trying to make light of a serious social problem as I know that people in here are role-playing. However, for those few who it applies to, take a step back and evaluate your life before you do something that cannot be undone. Because with all that's been going on lately, I see some people are getting unhinged.
If anyone goes postal and shoots up their office, it would be one of you AG clowns. You're the ones that get unhinged over losing internet spaceships.Delete
You truly think so? I'm more inclined to believe that a code-bot monkey would do something like this. After all, you guys murder people in game, not too much further to the real thing.Delete
Straight wow another example of a an anti ganker comparing a video game to real life murder. Amazing.Delete
bot-aspirancy....what a load of crapReplyDelete
Can Loyal come out and gank freighters with us today? Please please please please?! I promise he will do his chores and homework and stuff. We REALLY want to gank freighters.Delete
No insult needed when it comes to AGDelete
The Code, winning one always at a time. \o/ReplyDelete
The Code always wins!ReplyDelete
CODE wins againReplyDelete
Wait a second, all of this winning... Is James 315's true identity Chuck Norris? Or is the code the virtual embodiment of Chuck Norris' will?ReplyDelete
James 315 doesn't eat, he just sucks the energy out of food by staring at it.Delete
Houston calls James 315 when THEY have a problem.
James 315 invented texting WHILE he was driving.
If you spell James 315 in Scrabble, you win, forever.
Probably explains why texting while driving has been banned in a number of states...Delete
Chuck Norris? Don't you mean Charlie Sheen? Whacked out, delusional, and claiming to win all the time???ReplyDelete
nah the code can't be anything to do with chuck norris he would have won the AT single handedly... not cried buckets of tears because his toys got taken away and stomped off in a hissy fit .... sound familiar code?ReplyDelete
It's Veers Belvar and I approve this post. I'm glad Loyalanon left out some of the more embarrassing segments of the soundcloud. CCP has confirmed my understand of events regarding the AT, where CODE lost by default and is forever banned from future participation. There was no "victory," and there was no 200 billion isk bribe from RvB....there was tremendous laziness and incompetence.ReplyDelete
Following the AT debacle, CODE has become the laughingstock of EvE, and I believe that it is now headed into oblivion. Great going CodeBros.
Says the guy who we see getting upset in local about code for at least 6 hours a day?Delete
Incredibly entertained...not upset, though a lot of the CODE agents have proved rather dim....Only DJ has shown much IQ so far.Delete
Getting upset about game mechanics bro...... Carebears"Delete
Whose upset? And ya....Marmite doesn't have any friends, bro....just victims and enemies.Delete
Look left and scroll up. See Tora Bushido at the top of the list? That means he's a friend of *all* of hisec. I myself even consider him a friend even though I've been at war with him continuously since last November.Delete
Veers you have the opinion of one person yet the tears of manyDelete
You dont know what tears are....try playing the game sometime.Delete
id prefer to be like you and express my disapproval on a comment section in a blogDelete
Anonymously, of course.Delete
Im you and even I dont like me.Delete
I guess I should go start my own interplanetary society of friends instead of complaining about code not being what I want it to be.
Maybe the New Order needs a cleansing from within. Remove the true believers from bot-aspirant.ReplyDelete
You might be on to something. I think there should be a more extremist branch of the New Order.Delete
The core teachings of CODE are true and good. It is the current enforcers that have lost sight of Our Savior's visionReplyDelete
A new prophet must be chosen! Not Loyal and not D400! Who will step forward?ReplyDelete
Maybe Capt Starfox?Delete
Hmmmm... interesting idea. Practically speaking, I think turn out would improve if Capt Starfox was in charge.Delete
Part 3 was the CODE folks having some weird discussion over homosexuality and other strange topics...so thankfully it has been omitted.Delete
Code tears are the best tears.Delete
Hahahaha this Veers guy is so pathetic.epic recording keep it up CODE!!Delete
"pathetic" eh? Taking on 8 Code Agents and coming out with the clearly better arguments. Go find a new troll, Loyalanon. How is the AT going?Delete
MINER BINGO CARD!!!Delete
I'm listening to the SoundCloud file in which Veers Belvar struggles to divide the movement by claiming that his suggestions are closer to the spirit of The Code than the actions of our fearless Knights of the New Order.ReplyDelete
He returns frequently to the subject of bumping, in particular he claims that bumping is more effective than ganking in dealing with rebels.
Of course, James 315 has an answer. It's contained in his 'Become an Agent'. I quote:
"While bumping is a glorious vocation synonymous with enforcement of the Code, the innumerable successes of New Order bumpers have gradually rendered many habitual Code-violators resistant to the long-term psychological effects of being bumped. In these cases, the New Order calls upon its most dedicated and indefatigable enforcers: the Knights of the New Order."
I'll continue to listen, with flagging interest...
Your failure to communicate with miners (perhaps stemming from your poor English skills) is what makes bumping ineffective. If you would try talking to them, giving fitting advice, taking them on some PVE missions, and even some PvP roams, you would find that they would outgrow mining. Unfortunately, since all you care about is tears, your solutions do nothing to solve the fundamental problems in Eve, rendering you a complete and total failure, in any capacity.Delete
How many times have you done that veersldspar?Delete
Why are you trying to make code responsible for this instead of doing it yourself?Delete
I'm just here to tell the truth. I don't have time to personally patrol highsec....but it's important that there be some kind of independent assessment of the efficacy of CODE operations....and I'm the man to provide it.Delete
Oh so another opinionated carebear too afraid to get his hands dirty... Sounds credible. And people wonder why they always say the code always wins - just take a look at there opposition.Delete
Alas! My poor English skills were honed in the comparative aridity of the Steppes of Mother Russia (as you can no doubt discern from my awful English accent).
I have discovered that, despite this failing, my command of your language is rather firmer than that of many of the English-speaking miners I have encountered.
I struggle to lace my conversation with the profanity and rank stupidity which frequently characterises their own utterances.
However, all's not lost. Having listened to as much of the SoundCloud file as I could stomach, I'm in an excellent position to learn from a real expert (yourself) how to whine coherently. I'm sure it'll come in useful, some day.
+1. I have always maintained that my greatest gift to CODE is teaching people with poor English skills and butchered accents how to speak properly. That is worth more than all the ganking in the entire history of CODE.Delete
Veers, honestly, I think you should head a new Code corp that does exactly what you are endorsing. You wont have to do all the work, because you will have corp members under you that will adhere to your sound reasoning. Of course, part of your hand holding (I dont mean to be derisive, but I find that the best descriptor) will include warning your progeny of the threat of ganking. If you could do this without undermining the teachings of the Code and the agents that enforce it, you could truly be a vehicle for change (But not a catalyst, those are for enforcement). You do that, and I will sign on and offer my support.Delete
No thanks, I'm enjoying ripping apart the current cast of clowns.Delete
lol where, in the anti-ganking channel? Great audience.Delete
Veers used damage control! It was ineffective!ReplyDelete
Don't need damage control when your sig radius is too low to be hit, bro.Delete
Veers used caldari tissue! Unfortunately it did not stem the flow of tears!Delete
This is actually a true statement. Since the premise (that there were tears) is false, the conclusion (that the tissue did not stem such tears) can be both true and false. So dear sir, well done. You are now an accomplished Code enforcer.Delete
Code will keep killing, people like veers will keep crying and the code will keep on winning!!!!'nDelete
Just like Code won the alliance tournament by forfeit, got permabanned, and cried on the eve forums. CODE ALWAYS WINS.Delete
*Cheers* beers or whatevah his name isReplyDelete
Thanks you sir...I have quite the fan club already. Unfortunately the lazy code bros have failed to put me on the red pen list yet, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xyEZS7MtLEKfQxbm4sZE1cLUS4ogIvaUniizW5asxto/pubhtmlDelete
and have also failed to purchase shares for me, as promised. I expect at least 20 million shares.
You're confusing the channel ban list of "The CODE FAQ" (An ingame channel) with the Red Pen list, where habitual violators and rebels are placed.
The former is a public access document, open to all, the latter is not.
You also still seem to be confused and think you are somehow able to dictate terms to us, or make demands from us. I assure you, nothing could be further from the truth.
DJ...You made certain promises on the soundcloud which have remain unfulfilled. You stated that you were donating 2 plex in my name to Operation Incursion Carnage (which has been a total flop so far). You also made reference to buying shares in my name. You further indicated (through a thinly veiled threat) that you would be increasing my "Code compliance." So far none of this has been done, and all we have seen from you is bloviating about cats and empty rhetoric.Delete
Veers may be misguided, but his frustration IMO stems from a serious cause that we have yet to discuss and has been a problem growing for months now. The very reason dropped EVE and walked away all those many months ago (has it been so long? Over a year now?) Anyway, Loyal has guided us in the wrong direction, made us enemies of everyone in high sec when we should be heroes! She is a FALSE PROPHET. Bring me a new leader, someone who knows the CODE and lives by it, and I will bring my toon out of retirement and follow him or her to the end of the universe, we will burn the impurities from the New Order and then take our place as the true servants of the Savior of High Sec.ReplyDelete
Sounds like you leaving code already got rid of the impurities.Delete
So why doesn't James 315 lead code then? Why doesn't he come out from under whatever rock that he's holed himself in and actually lead? If he came out and lead for a change instead of biting his pillow, the NO might actually have respect instead of the laughing stock it has become. Come on James, lead for the cause that you started. Leaders are born, not groomed. The rest are followers. Having a follower try to lead is like having the blind lead the blind. Case in Point: Loyalanon.Delete
Yeah, and this is coming from a AG supporting troll.
Cause throwing a match for money is pure? When everyone is watching and the carebears are looking for something, anything. What if this was some inside deal with Gorilla so the carebears can have some red meat? Who gave Loyalanon the money? Was it RvB? I'll wager it was the mining queen of bots herself.Delete
Loyalanon and The Conference Elite is the best thing that happened to CODE. so far. The amount of stuff they destroy to re-sculpt Highsec is just breath taking. It is no wonder if the bot-aspirants and their white knight friends are crying all day long, they are simply not capable to stop CODE. anymore.Delete
The Code always wins!
Not showing up to the Alliance Tournament, lying about a 200 billion isk bribe from RvB, forfeiting, being permanbanned forever from future tournaments, and makingg CODE the laughingstock of Eve is not what I would call a success story. Try again, bro.Delete
free publicity courtesy of VeerdsparDelete
Actually I don't see that.Delete
The AT, you may think gives you ammunition that will finally stop CODE, but the truth is that it won't do a damn thing except give you a reason the post and bleat like a sheep.
Barges & Exhumers will continue to go "boom". Whether or not the "carebears" respect CODE and it's win at the AT is irrelevant. The only thing relevant is their willingness to follow the CODE, or perish. Period.
Bla bla bla... It's all you fucking clowns do. It's the reason I said "what the fuck am I doing wanting to help these assholes out? Can't even take the time to protect themselves"
You bleat like sheep, you act like sheep. Your lazy, won't take responsibility for your own safety, constantly crying to CCP to turn the greatest pvp game of all time into another boring pve game. Fuck that.
So far I've only helped CODE in providing ships, weapons, and buying shares. When I get home for some time off... I'm going to start killing mining ships.
Why? Cause your weak. Your movement is weak, your resistance is weak. And most importantly... internet spaceships are made to go boom.
That's the whole point of this game. I'm done my rant. Time for a beer.
Wow. Good come back kid.Delete
I think there is a tear welling up... wait. Nope. No tears. Fail.
Why would you bring up mining in a conversation that has something to do with mining. Did you even bother to listen to the soundcloud? Try to be a bit more intelligent than most of the nearly brain dead Code agents I've been dealing with, bro.Delete
nothing, not something.Delete
No, the IQ level of New Order Agents is distressingly low. This is an important issue that needs to be publicized. Try posting with your in-game name, chum.Delete
To be honest... I could only handle your voice for about 30 seconds. Had to bail after that. Sorry Veers. I'm sure you believed you had something inportant to say... maybe? To me, it sounded like bleating sheep being lead to the slaughter house.Delete
Veers and his losing battle, kudos for effort though.Delete
Of course, it would be "you're too stupid" not "your too stupid." Carry on sir.Delete
I stand corrected, O mighty sheep lord! My piss poor excuse is fat thumbs on an iphone while bouncing down some shitty 2 track in some dusty remote field.Delete
As for the other accusation regarding my intekigence... sheep should not question their betters.
This statement is brought to you by Iphone! And in the same field!
I really need to stop texting and driving.... it's making me look bad. LolDelete
You manage to make the other bumbling New Order Agents look good in comparison. Are you a plant?Delete
Oh my lord! Such barbs! I'm cut! I'm cut deep! Please jebus make them stop!
Anon4:13, you are such a goof. Better call your mom to bring you down another bag of cheezy puffs.
Veers, every time you post, I keep hearing the old "Sonny & Cher" song... "and the bleat goes on, and the bleat goes on".
Come on, sing it with me goatboy!
Colonel didn't deny it - check the pedo files on himDelete
Your starting to get some weird fantasy's going here Anon11:44... should I be worried? You don't have kids do you or younger siblings?Delete
I'd stay out of parks for awhile if I was you... try to calm down a bit. Maybe make a call for some help before some innocent child pays for your confusion and desires.
First rule of EVE? Don't talk smack in local... Loyal runs his mouth constantly. He is the problem. I agree with Anonymous 8:21ReplyDelete
It is called manipulation. Erotica 1 did it in the bonus room and code agents use it continously in local and now they are trying to get people on teamspeak.ReplyDelete
Basically they will pretend to be your friend but the whole set up is to have several people who push you towards their goal which is usually to get you to threaten them or bully you into submission. Either one suits them because if you threaten them then they can claim how horrible everyone is and how perfect they are and if they make you submit then it is a win for code.
Think of it as one person being circled by numerous others and being chastised and harassed until they either submit or get angry. This happens every day on Eve with code agents and now they want it on soundfiles.
The mistake they are making is eventually an Ero 1 situation will arise again and someone will crack and it could be prove to be a very bad situation if the person isn't rational. This again is another example of code going too far and taking things out of the game. I suggest anyone who is hassled in this way should make a petition and lets get these agitators banned from Eve just like we did Ero 1.
Except that it failed miserably this time....plus the banning of Erotica1 was crazy...he broke no law and should be promptly reinstated to the game.Delete
No, he should not be reinstated to the game. CCP should biomass his toon and permanantly ban him on name, address, email, and credit card number. What he did was go WAY too far.Delete
E1 and people like him use the game as a hunting ground (predator) for victims to prey on in out-of-game communications. As shown with the shitstorm that E1 caused, CCP will take action on out of game communications if it started in game and if things go too far.
Ero 1 is a psychopath and had numerous alts who were causing trouble all over Eve and even outside Eve on every forum so the ban was justified and Eve is better without him.Delete
But of course the leech can't let Eve go and the code trolls still listen to the moron on TS. I wouldn't be surprised if Ero 1 wasn't behind the idea to get you on TS and is more than likely giving them advice on what to say. You might think you won Veers but you also gave them what they wanted which is to ridicule you on here. Do yourself a favor and don't let them manipulate you that way.
lolz....who do you think was ridiculing who? I just got banned from all the code channels...somehow i dont think they are winning.Delete
Do yourself a favor and don't let them manipulate you that way.Delete
As I said before.
Get a clue. It's an anonymous video game, no one can manipulate you. Loyalanon just blocked me because he knew he was losing every argument.Delete
Do yourself a favor and don't let them manipulate you that way.Delete
As I said before.
who cares if you get blocked, turn down the temper tantrum, move on find something else to do.
Well, because I'm really enjoying this....The much acclaimed CODE alliance turn out to be a bunch of griefers who forfeit the alliance and get permabanned forever, their CEO makes up a lie about a 200 billion isk bribe, and the whole house of cards comes crashing down. This is the most fun I have ever had in Eve, and I intend to continue doing it.Delete
Do yourself a favor and don't let them manipulate you that way.Delete
As I said before.
You sound like a broken record now. I can see why everyone who reads this blog is laughing at your attempt to stay relevant.
Stick to mining.Delete
Veers you fell for it, who in their right mind would even consider talking to a bunch of code idiots. Their agenda is always to humiliate people and they have no interest in talks. They told you were somebody, that you mattered and you believed it and then they ridiculed you because that is all they are capable of.Delete
a stupid assessment....did you listen to the soundcloud?Delete
Well, things just got interesting around here. Veers Belvar, I haven't listened to the sound cloud, but from what I have ascertained on the comments is that you seem to care about the NO to the point that you want to do something about their problems. Let me tell you, the average intelligence of a NO agent is not much higher than a rock, and that's insulting the rock. You would do better leading Pinocchio around by his nose.Delete
Now if we can only determine if the rock is igneous, metamorphic, or sedimentary....
Recent update to the code? Strange it hasn't changed on the site. One would think that if it was updated, it would be under 'The Code' on the website. They are lying to you. There is no update to the code.Delete
In light of the resent egg-in-our-face scandal I have to agree. I mean WTF???ReplyDelete
Let the tears flow through youReplyDelete
Which is more important? ISK or The Code? That's what it boils down to. If it is ISK, then I may need to rethink my corporate membership.ReplyDelete
***CODE the OFFICIAL COWARDS OF EVE***ReplyDelete
********Too scared to fight RvB in Alliance Tournament*********
**********BANNED FOREVER FROM AT**********
I agree as well, Loyal needs to go. BUT THIS IS NOT THE VENUE FOR THE DISCUSSION! Get online now and we can discuss in length!ReplyDelete
Go where? He was ganking before he joined code and if anything everyone joined his corp.Delete
Loyalamoron has nowhere to go, he can only gank so he could never get into any of the elite corps and even if he did he would be fail because he can't pvp.Delete
He had his chance to prove something with AT and failed so he is now known as a coward and him and code are the laughing stock of Eve.
Code always winsReplyDelete
Not this crap again...Delete
Fail troll is fail.
The4 Code, winning at all times and always!! \o/Delete
Maybe the guys that took the bribe should purchase shares with it? That money would go a long way to help the cause. And it would prove where their loyalties lay. It would turn this into an epic victory!ReplyDelete
and yes, code always wins!Delete
Correct - the Code ALWAYS WHINESDelete
Loyalanon & Friends won!ReplyDelete
you mean tard and friends, who were too scared to fight anyone at AT and now they are proved losers they are trying to be like Ero 1 and harass people on TS - CCP find this out and they take it too far and I can see further permabansDelete
They get permabanned and these morons will still claim it as a win.
Still can't PVP or be taken seriously. Tsk tsk James, your opportunity to be relevant was lost. You're just a laughing stock nowReplyDelete
lol - just listened to the interview and CODE agents just admitted that they themselves are bots. They didn't even realize it. These guys don't even sound intelligent - especially the southern drawl one.ReplyDelete
And why did James need to hide behind a voice scrambler? Doesn't really show leadership, really...
That was done because that was not the real james315...they had to hide that fact somehow...ReplyDelete
Erotica 1 shall soon return and unleash a fury upon highsec unlike anything before seen, except in my visions. I must ask you my brothers and sisters... are you ready for the reckoning? Have you embraced the CODE before it's too late?ReplyDelete
Erotica 1 was a scammer and manipulator - if he came back no one would be interested. All he has left is code because they will follow anyone who bleets.Delete
baaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaa
"Yeh Jimmie mah gankez haz catz lolz" - loyalanon the AT coward
AnonymousAugust 28, 2014 at 1:58 AMDelete
that aren't visions, those are your wet dreams.
Something that royalmoron has in common with e1: both like to annoy (harras) others for *hours*. wouldn't be very surprised if e1 is an alt of royalmoron (or vice versa).ReplyDelete
thats asocial behavior.
what must happen in real life to sink so low?
so to WK crowd goes back to being butthurt, love it :) :)ReplyDelete
code always winds (you up)
So I heard gorilla made up the whole thing about his wife, C/D?ReplyDelete
Another lie, you guys are subhuman and have no emotions when you talk crap like thatDelete
What the hell? I thought we were better than this? Now every time a carebear posts a comment we start making statements about his wife? This is sad. The second comment in this thread too! Base and vile!ReplyDelete
I've followed this site for months now and it is obvious that what was a good and righteous movement has gone down the toilet and has become corrupt. You are not what you used to be.
James, why did you let it get this bad? Sigh...
I am returning to EVE, but this time not as a Death Dealer. I am going to purge the wickedness from without...
Loyalanon, you ARE a false prophet, and I am coming to get you!
nah the CODE are soft touches and believe him. I'm not code and I've seen too many people post shit like this on the internet over the years to believe it. Look at the details of what he's claiming and you'll see.Delete
Veers for diplomatReplyDelete
The Real Veers...(General Blev - Veers alt). Yes folks these are his real life views.ReplyDelete
[ 2014.08.27 21:04:45 ] General Belv > i support the tea party, yes
[ 2014.08.27 21:04:52 ] General Belv > im voting for ted cruz in 2016
[ 2014.08.27 21:05:07 ] General Belv > send the illegal immigrant folks back to where they came from
[ 2014.08.27 21:05:13 ] General Belv > stop the al sharpton racial pandering
[ 2014.08.27 21:05:21 ] General Belv > get a law and order crackdown going
[ 2014.08.27 21:05:30 ] General Belv > more people in jail, a safer society
[ 2014.08.27 21:06:25 ] General Belv > illegal immigrants drive down wages
[ 2014.08.27 21:06:34 ] General Belv > they steal jobs from blue collar americans and impoverish america
[ 2014.08.27 21:06:50 ] General Belv > they are also part of a social block that votes democrat and increases the welfare state
Res Ipsa Loquitor
I dunno, except for more people in jail I don't see anything wrong with those views as stated.Delete
Agreed, Mr Veldspar may be a total tosspot in EvE but his common sensical ILR views look good to me.Delete
Unless he's a total prog & the above is just sarcasm, in which case see the first part of my comment above.
The Code always wins. \o/
@AnonymousAugust 28, 2014 at 5:42 PM - nothing wrong with those views. America would be in a better state. (I agree with the more people in jail thing tho. Just speed up executions to free up space).Delete
Always amusing to see our left wing European buddies, like Loyalanon (New Zeeland? Is that even a country?) consider any presentation of a Capitalist and Conservative vision for America to be essentially "insane" or a "troll." Tough on crime tactics, and putting repeat offenders in jail, is exactly how Giuliani managed to transform NYC from a cesspool into a functional city. The same holds true for the nation as a whole. You have a certain percentage of the population which is unfortunately predisposed to criminality, failing to adequately deal with them endangers the health and safety of the community as a whole.Delete
Pretty solid viewsReplyDelete
Anyone else find it hilarious that James hides behind a scrambled voice? Watch out, the courage with that one is strong! lol So pathetic. He calls himself the 'leader' of hi-sec yet he's scared of people hearing him?ReplyDelete
And before the "but your posting as Anonymous" crap. We're not talking about me, we're talking about James. lol
The scrambled voice person pretending to be James 315 is supposed to be Jerry Rin the king of spam and macro cheat (see his battleclinic kb). Jerry has nowhere to go so like most idiots he now hangs with code.Delete
The whole set up was 8 people harassing 1 person so just like the Ero 1 bonus room and a bunch of people circling one person to attempt to wind them up. I also wouldn't be surprised if Ero 1 wasn't involved so he could have been one impersonating James 315 and not Rin.
Even so it shows how code act and how desperate they are that they will try to make someone look foolish or attempt to get the person to make threats so they can pretend to be the good people.
I hope CCP investigate it because again like Ero 1, it is harassment and taking Eve out of the game in an attempt to humiliate someone.
Ah well that makes even more sense. So James is just completely afraid then, not partially ;PDelete
I thought the same thing as well - it was a gang bang on one person. Of course that would not pan out well and be 'balanced'.
If CODE members had any intelligence (after hearing them though, it sounds as if that pool is empty. Especially the southern guy. Goodness, I'm willing to bet he didn't pass the 4th grade) they would have done a 1v1 debate. Thing is, just like their ganks, they need each other to pull it off.
What's funny about all this is that the more we are seeing them talk (not just in this interview, but forums, posts, blog, local, etc.), the more we are seeing just how stupid each individual CODE member is.
I follow and read this blog out of fascination and morbid curiosity. Equal to how watching a retarded, paraplegic fall out of a chair and try to get back up. And before you ask, yes, the more CODE speaks and goes on - the more they confirm how close they are to that vision.
Guys, it really wasn't harassment. No one got emotional, no one got angry, no one broke down or was intimidated. It was just a frank exchange of views, and a valuable exercise.Delete
Thank you, Veers. It's sad how fast people want to jump on the "harassment" and "cyber-bullying" bus when it was nothing but the New Order doing what we always do - being open to communication by anyone.Delete
Veers, thank you for that post.
It wasn't open communication, you were out to get him but because Veers is smarter than you then you all failed. And it is a prime example of harassment and bullying when 8 people get 1 person in a room and circle them and attempt to elicit responses by pushing and poking at someone.Delete
DJ, you and your fellow perps are severely deluded and are so far gone you no longer know right from wrong.
I don't get why CODE ran away from their match vs RvB? They claim being 'elite' PvPers - so I would think they would look forward to the match. But instead they forfeited and ganked ships instead, claiming "Because enforcing the CODE is more important than the match".ReplyDelete
How fortunate to be able to hide behind that instead of getting their asses handed to them publicly in PVP. Every match or fight they decline, they will always say "Because the CODE trumps those activities, blah blah blah". But everyone else sees it plainly as "Umm, we know we can't PvP so we're going to make up an excuse to not fight you. Wait, we have the CODE, right? Yeah, yeah! Tell 'em that! We don't want to fight them because of, umm, CODE stuff, yea!"
"Are they gone...?"
As a Miner, I have many problems with CODE. Mainly that they are extremely hostile. I don't think you guys understand that without mining, no one wold have any ships. No guns. No ammo. No bases.ReplyDelete
And, the "Savior" seems to be really, how do I say it............... weird? Ecentric? This site consists of basicly just propaganda and bias. If CODE does not fall, I hope they can change and become a REAL corp so people can war you, which would
be much fairier, and people could war you. Currently the corp seems to be like this: "IMA GONNA SHOTIES YO UPIES!" And know you know why most people on EVE despise you.
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