Thursday, November 20, 2014

A Team Effort, Part 2

Previously, on MinerBumping... A team of elite New Order Agents went to work helping a miner named The Feet. After destroying a billion isk worth of his stuff, they invited him to a conference to teach him the Code.


When people think of the New Order, they think of class and sophistication. Agent Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri played Mendelssohn's Symphony No. 4 'Italian' to add a little atmosphere.


Despite the atmosphere, The Feet continued to act like a brute--like a bot-aspirant brute.


The Feet didn't recognize our Agents as the mentors they are. He saw them as the enemy. He could only think about the money he'd lost. He even accused our heroes of stealing his ship's rigs.


Seven years of mining in highsec didn't earn The Feet enough isk. He always wanted more. He couldn't bear the thought of having lost, well, however much time it takes to mine a billion isk of ore in highsec. However much time that is, it's far too long.


The answer to The Feet's quandary was a mining permit and a good attitude. Wallowing in bot-aspirancy for seven years left a stain on The Feet that wasn't so easily scrubbed, however. The New Order arrived not a moment too soon. Imagine if we didn't start saving highsec until a few years from now--it might have been too late.


Our Agents helped The Feet out by giving him a 15-minute break to think about what he'd done. It was a sort of global criminal timer for the channel. But The Feet was not silenced so easily. He retaliated with a bold masterstroke that forever altered the balance of power in New Eden:


...Either that, or he changed his personal standings and pretended it meant something. Miners do this all the time. But The Feet knew he was working against a team of Agents, not just one. And so, like jolly old Saint Nick putting a lump of coal in each stocking, he began sending out standings notifications to all of the Agents in the convo, each with a personalized message.


One for Agent Rabe Raptor...


One for Agent Kalorned...


One for Agent Tisiphone Dira...


...And one for Agent Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri.


The day's lesson with The Feet had ended on a dramatic note. A lot of people would look at those standings notifications and assume The Feet meant to cut ties with the New Order. They might also assume The Feet would never buy a mining permit or get right with the Code. Fair assumptions, perhaps. But remember The Feet's bio. We shouldn't assume ANYTHING without talking to The Feet first. Could a mining permit be in his future, after all?

91 comments:

  1. No, there's no RL mentioned anywhere.

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  2. Just another pathetic example of Codies looking for tears/rage. How long until they all get banned?

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    1. Probably longer than this racist bot-aspirant miner who committed a bannable offense...

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    2. This story reminds me of one such miner “new” to the game (>3months) who received a ban. He was ganked and immediately sent out an IRL death threat very similar to the message DJ received. However, when this miner was petitioned he was perma-banned. We knew this because his IRL friend who introduced him into the game months earlier asked us if we could somehow explain to CCP on his friend’s behalf that he didn’t understand the EULA and ultimately the repercussions that would follow with such a comment. Needless to say the victim who received the IRL death threat did not comply, but it wouldn’t have mattered anyway as IRL death threats resulted in immediate dismissal from the game regardless of everything, at least it did back then.

      Perhaps this means more death threats for content creators?

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    3. Perhaps the "content creators" should stop engaging in gameplay specifically designed to egg on people into making these RL death threats? Do the PvP in low/null, and stop the ganking and tearfest in highsec.

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    4. Oh wow Veers ... you mean to say that it is also a woman's fault if she gets raped when she wears a short skirt? Because what you just posted is exactly the same type of sick reasoning.

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    5. What fixation do you people have on rape?

      Why don't you ask if it's victim's fault if he gives his wallet to stranger for safe keeping, only to find the stranger took off with his wallet while he was elsewhere?

      Or if it's the victim's fault if he goes to the biggest guy of a biker gang and tell him that he has ugly bike and leather vest and then gets beaten for that?

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  3. Wow such anger, this dude is playing the wrong game.

    Plus the completely expected knee jerk defense of a foul mouthed Carebear from Beers. Doesn't he know the Code always wins?

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    1. That's what CODE wants you to believe. And you're buying it lol.

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    2. The only thing that code is good for is ganking people and pissing them off. Perhaps Riptard should be made aware of this so the code bot monkey fags can be banned for pushing another player "over the edge."

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    3. Hey DJ, this adblock thing you told me about isn't working so well. I have to manually block every comment veers makes. Thankfully I've gotten pretty good at doing it without reading them, so I still get the benefit of (after a couple minutes of cleaning up) a comment section without him in it. But it'd be nice if this could automatically block the comments made under his name preemptively. Any advice on how to make it do that?

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    4. Any chance you could go to your "options" in adblocker, "Manually edit your filters", and copy/paste me the one which mentions Veers by name? I could figure out the syntax on my own, but the rules are pretty obscure and I don't really want to generate it on my own when I could find a workaround. Thanks in advance, looking forward to a Veers free internet.

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    5. Ugh, safari is proving such a pain in the ass to work with, but it's what I've got atm and I don't want to switch over entirely to chrome just for this. DJ, do you think you could do me a big favor and copy/paste the filtering rule which blocks comment blocks made by user "veers belvar" here? I've been trying to put together a rule for that (figured I'd build it manually, since the addon can't generate it through the UI), but the syntax is a bitch to figure out. Thanks preemptively for the help.

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  4. I view that as an in-game threat, which is perfectly legal.

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  5. boy do these care bears really over-estimate their value to the game. Every one of them bleats on about 'lost revenue' because if they quit, CCP will simply collapse.
    Eve loses worthless high sec'ers all the time. The severe learning curve, the ADD of the modern gamer....all contribute far more to un-subs than gankers. They come and go, while the emergent game play and PvP nature of the game attract new players.
    Miners, you are nothing to Eve Online. CCP could as easily seed markets with ore rather than have brainless miners do it (usually while not engaging in a single other element of content). The contribution to Eve of miners is about the same as just seeding markets magically. It's no more interactive or useful to have players in an MMO not interested in anything but AFK'ing a useless career path, than it is to simply populate the universe with ore just like it's populated with NPC's.

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    1. Funny how CCP only seems to ban the griefers. Apparently they know their financials, and realize that the PvE players contribute a lot more to the game than a few repugnant griefers.

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    2. Solly, you are nothing to EVE Online. Who would even notice if you did not play anymore?

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    3. So do you code monkeys sollylamma...

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    4. Individually, I am just a single account, a single toon playing- so it's quite correct that my absence wouldn't affect Eve Online. The difference is, I recognize this fact whereas care bears continue with their inflated sense of self and delusion of importance.
      What makes my contribution to Eve matter is that I play with other people, doing the sort of content (PvP) that drives the game forward. I fight in large fleets, taking and defending sov mostly. All the biggest battles that CCP has gotten new interest in their game because of- I took part in. I also took part in things like the Live Events that CCP hosts.
      That is what makes me, even if only a little, actually important to Eve Online. Whereas miners as a whole could simply be replaced with seeding markets with no ill effect on the overall game. My impact on Eve is that of the collective community that both puts the Massively in MMO, but also drives the living history within the game's lore.

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    5. Now... as you sat miners worthless, and they give nothing to the game, do they then take something away from the game?

      You seem to have enough disgust against them to write a wall of text how insignificant they are.Maybe you should study your emotions, and find out where that anger comes from. Then think again if they really are that insignificant.

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    6. Point of game is not to make news, point of game is to have fun. And the code griefers are making it harder for highsec PvE players to enjoy the game. This means they are doing it wrong.

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    7. The only 'anger' is that which you project upon me. The anger is clearly your own. I have enjoyed Eve for years. I've enjoyed it 'as intended', with a single acct, a single toon, and accepting the consequences of being at one point a low sec pirate, and now a sov alliance 'grunt'. I have lost most of my stuff to gate camps, been ganked by war dec'ers, and have slam dunked many another player in return.
      Even losing my ship, my pod, my stuff- is fun. It's just a game. I enjoy Eve for what it is, not just 'winning' at it. Not once have I taken to local to cry, spout racist or homophobic venom. Not once have I petitioned CCP to keep other players from blowing me to smithereens. I do not assume that cowardly care bears are actually that way in real life, all the while my actual personality is accused of being everything from a nazi to sociopathic. I, in short, have never mistaken a video game for real life as care bears do.

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    8. Further, the game is not 'harder' due to ganking. Those of us with more than 10 minutes of time in New Eden see just how sadly easy, dumbed down, and childish Eve has become-- all because of the weakness of care bears and new subscribers that cannot tolerate loss, difficulty, or challenge.
      For many of us 'bittervets' Eve was a destination. A place we came to after trying childrens' theme parks like WoW. A place where Big Boy Rules were in effect, not the constant mewling of the terminally weak.
      My first PvP loss was to a nerd-raging FC in my own fleet. I lost everything I owned to a low sec gate camp. My first corp CEO stole everything and ran.
      But I saw all this as fucking AWESOME. Awesome that there was a place where this could all happen. A place where the term 'sandbox' held meaning. Where the huge time sink that is any MMO, actually was worth it. Years later I am still in New Eden. And frankly, the only thing that makes me question that decision, that investment, is the dumbing down and general softness that is the care bear getting their collective way.
      Simply put, care bears are the very root of evil in Eve Online. The destruction of a once unique (if brutal) game world that existed nowhere else.

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    9. Stick to low/null and you won't need to deal with "carebears." If you actually enjoyed the game you wouldn't spend all day in highsec trying to piss people off. Get a shrink.

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    10. Again, you clearly cannot separate a video game from reality. I am not a member of CODE. My character is a null sec PvP pilot. I simply support CODE's efforts at both role playing-- in a role playing game-- and as emergent and unscripted gameplay in a game that at one time, was the very definition of it.
      As for directing my in game actions. Request Denied. In fact, I will hasten to offer my many millions of SP to gank along with CODE just for the giggles of it, when I am not otherwise engaged in actual content.
      Care bears, and their constant mewling, affect us all. In the years I have played Eve, most of the major changes have come at the expense of the sandbox and actual challenging gameplay.
      Not all of us are so bad at video games that shooting rocks while watching tv is required, nor wanted. This was MY game long before the current generation of sadly inept gamers came to troll New Eden with their lack of skill and lack of imagination. For just shy of half of Eve's entire existence, I have been a part of New Eden. I will be there long after the WoW-crowd has cried itself to sleep then quit for an easier game.

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    11. More garbage from Solly. My PvE play in high has no impact on your PvP play in null. The reason for nerfs is because you clowns come to suicide gank in high for rage and tears. If you would stick to null, there wouldn't be any nerfs. But that's impossible for you - your whole gameplay revolves around harassing highsec PvE players. As I said - get a shrink.

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    12. You folks should listen to DJ. He has the right approach. CODE members are cowards - they use a video game to bully PvE players to compensate for deep feelings of personal inadequacy. Fundamentally you folks are cowards, afraid to fight real competition, just looking for easy kills, for rage, and for tears. You best block me, as the longer you engage me the more foolish you look, and the deeper your despair will get. Run away and hide - that is truly yer only hope.

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    13. "The only 'anger' is that which you project upon me. The anger is clearly your own"

      I am not angry. You seem to be angry, not me. You are confused with your emotions somehow.


      "The contribution to Eve of miners is about the same as just seeding markets magically"
      "Care bears, and their constant mewling, affect us all"

      You are contradicting yourself.

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  6. Be careful what you ask for, you might just get it:

    The New Order at work in real life

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    Tallahassee, Florida -- Gunshots rang out in the library at Florida State University where 3 people were shot and hundreds more took cover between the book cases until the police shot and killed the gunman outside.

    The gunman was yelling the phrases "Praise be to James 315, the savior of highsec," and "The bot aspariants in the library must be ganked for the sake of highsec" before he was taken down by police.

    The gunman wore a shirt praising something called "The Code." People that knew the gunman described him as a sociopath who had a hard time distinguishing reality from the fantasy world of a game called Eve Online.

    "The people who refer to themselves as Agents of the New Order are a strange group of people. They seem to delight in harassing people within the game environment. It was only a matter of time before one or more of them to try their griefing tactics in real life" said Butthurt Miner who knows the gunman only as D400. When asked about the New Order's tactics, Butthurt replied "Their claim to fame is that they suicide gank people in the game. That means that they blow up someone's internet spaceship while in a high security star system. As such, the in-game police show up and blow up the offender's ship. Hence the suicide part of the gank. It's nice to know when they do this in real life, they won't be able to do it again."

    "There has been a shooting in the library, stay where you are," said a man speaking over the loudspeaker, as captured in a cell phone video posted online. "We will be coming to each floor and clearing it, and taking care of anybody."

    The real law enforcement officers from the city and the university responded within three to five minutes according to the mayor. Once there, the officers ordered the gunman to drop his weapon. Instead of complying, he fired at one of the officers. The officers returned fire and killed the gunman.
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  7. And in another incident...

    News Article Start (DailyMail)
    Two children dead and an adult and child wounded in suspected New Jersey murder-suicide attempt

    New Jersey State Police was called out to a multiple shooting incident at a south New Jersey home at 9am on Thursday. When police arrived on scene at the house of Loyalanon (a.k.a. Wolf Soprano), they were treated to a grizzly scene. Inside, they found a boy, a girl, and a man shot to death. A woman and a girl who were also shot but still alive was also found by police.

    Police spokesperson Capt. Steven Jones said that the incident was reported by family members inside the home, but they did not hear what took place. "Right now, we suspect the man shot his family and then committed suicide a a real life suicide gank from a online game called EvE Online."

    The woman and girl who survived the shooting are at the hospital and are listed in critical condition. No further information is available.

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  8. thought d400 was canadian?

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  9. Oh please, if someone's self important here, it's CODE :P

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  10. Electron Master??? Are you a double forked dildo for CUNTS AND BROWN-EYES or just a little tiny Silver Bullet???

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  11. Satire is usually more subtle than this. Take another shot at it.

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  12. who said anything about subtle BIATCH, GO FUCK YOU MOTHER, and SUCK YOUR FATHER....oh sorry You probably already have kiddie porn around from fucking your own children or younger cousins. THATS RIGHT I SAID IT YOU FUCKING FOUL MOUTHED NIGGER, JEW, SANDNIGGER, NIP, SLANTEYE, HILLBILLY, SANCTOMONIUS CUM SLURPING DICK STICK. what are you going to do about? BOOM ! more GANK Im winning!!!!!!

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  13. This story reminds me of the time Veers said anyone who makes RL threats and calls people n-words they should get banned.

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  14. And that, tells us all we need to know about the person in real life, behind the player of the average care bear. Racist, obsessed with violent gay sex, and angry to the point of uncontrolled rage. My teenage kid exhibits far more class and maturity that you. You are, by all measures, a despicable person far in excess of anyone that role plays a villain in a game. I genuinely feel sorry for your parents for having failed so badly as to allow someone like this to exist. They must be so proud to have reared someone that is fully defined by such atrocious thoughts and language. You sicken me- not as a role player pretending to be something evil, like a pro-slavery Amarrian- but as an actual human that is nothing but the living embodiment of pathetic. The worst kind of human. Not one that is 'bad' in a video game where the advertising byline is 'be the villain' but as a person in the real world with an internet connection but not the maturity or civility to handle such a responsibility.

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  15. I dunno about him, but i stretch balls for a fee. Come one come all and call me to schedule an appointment. The number is 1-855-437-3825 and the fee is USD$30.00. Remember, for your protection (and ours), we sterilize the equipment after every customer.

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  16. Well said Solly.
    I rarely read the comments these days on MB. It's all the same idiotic crap. I think I'd actually hate to meet some of these people in RL. Raging Fucktards.
    Oh well... it's their cross to carry. I don't have any contact with people like that in game anymore. Low sec is much more pleasant.

    Hey! DJ.. good to see you more active on the blog. Do you play CoD or Halo? The death of my 360 has given me the perfect excuse to get an xboxone for myself @ xmas. Once that happens, it that will be the "flavour of the month" for awhile.

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  17. you little girls are still going? get out of moms basement

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  18. These carebears really are without class. Truly disgusting language.

    Carebears, if you think what you are spewing here or in-game chat is in any way acceptable then I invite you to show you mother or aunt or grandmother or sisters what you have posted. Tell them this is how you react to losing an internet spaceship, tell them that you are proud of what you have written. I can assure you that your female relatives will look at you in a new light thereafter.

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    1. And then let them listen to a bonus room session by Erotica1 and his CODE buddies. See what they think about that one. You jokers get the rage and tears you try so hard to elicit, and then engage in victim blaming. Shameful and pathetic. Grow up.

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    2. And Veers really thinks that it's our fault that they spew homophobic, racist bile all over the place. They're the victims.

      The mind of the carebear, people.

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    3. If you think that bonus room was ok, then there's something wrong with you. Honestly.

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    4. Bonusrooms... that same old garbage. Old news. It happened. And it was dealt with.... months ago. There has been no violations since except in your minds, which means very little. I had never heard about the "bonusroom" until I read it here... I think that goes for the majority of the players in this game.

      The only people that seem to care about flogging that dead horse are a few people, with to much time on their hands, and a personal hate a few people in code, but had no involvement in the whole damn thing.

      As much as you like to preach about the "ban" veers, there has been none since, and Code is still very much active... like I said, old news.

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    5. Yes, sweep it aside as "you don't know anything". Out of sight, out of mind. Scamming, awoxing and stealing are one thing, but in Bonus Room it was taken too far.

      As I said, if you think Bonus Room was ok, there's something wrong with you.

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    6. I don't sweep it aside at all. I encourage and support Erotica1 and the bonus room.
      1) no one went into a bonus room or participated against their will. Those players sought out something and only later decided they didn't like it. They could have not played, or quit playing. No one forced anything upon them. They were not taken hostage and forced to do anything they didn't agree to.

      2) those people are cheaters at Eve Online. They tried to cheat the game mechanics and economy by essentially buying gold. They should have been banned. They are literally no better than bots that accomplish the exact same thing- free isk.

      I have zero sympathy for people that cannot be bothered to undock a ship and actually PLAY Eve.
      Even the whining miner undocks a ship to make money, but those in a bonus room couldn't even be bothered to do that. They are all just bots with voices. All Erotica1 did was punish them for that behavior, which I personally think was doing a service to the community.

      I find it strange that the same miners and care bears that use 'just trying to make an honest buck' arguments against CODE would support players that refuse to make an honest buck by trying to get free isk. People that went to the bonus room trying to cheat at Eve should be a common enemy to CODE and care bear alike.
      If there is any common ground between CODE and care bear, it's that both actually undock a ship in New Eden and take their chances. Those in bonus rooms thumb their noses at both groups, and the game itself.

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    7. Were Bonus Room recordings published in the internet? If they were, was the BR participant asked for permission to do that? Did the participant have an option to get the recording off the air?

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    8. They voluntarily spoke in public TeamSpeak servers though. If I yell embarrassing things on the street, and someone records me in a public space and puts that online, I don't have the right to demand that the recording be taken down just because it makes me look bad. Bonus Room participants consented to be heard saying the things they said, when they chose to say them in someone else's teamspeak server.

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    9. ...he says, and throws a personal attack right back.

      Anyway, since you don't see anything wrong with that, I don't see my opinion on you changing. With that, I don't see any reason to continue having any conversations in this blog, and will take my leave. Goodbye o/

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    10. Ehhhm. Maybe I should read responses with some thought begore jumping the gun. Maybe too emotional, yea, but that's me. Sorry.

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    11. Well, so far I have only your word for that the publishing had the victim's consent, and that he could've asked for removal of the file. I'll take that word for now.

      If the case was really that, I sincerely apologize for my insult. It was my belief that the victim was ridiculed or humiliated against his will, so please forgive me for that.

      If you were now lying to me, I wish all kinds of nasty things to happen to you, like a flat tire or bird droppings on your shoulders.

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    12. @Anon 4:53

      I've had a bird poop on my shoulder once, didn't notice it at first and then when I did it was like "WHAA?" Darn pigeons XD

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  19. God, I hope so. I'm only still in eve (after the banwave and CCP referring to gankers and other people who do highsec pvp as "griefers" in their internal memos) because there aren't any other interesting alternatives. The moment anything that seems like what eve used to be comes along, I'm outta here. There's simply too much else to do to give my money to a company which treats its most mature, dedicated players are "griefers".

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  20. One does not simply

    Use reason and logic to debate carebears

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    1. Maybe if you actually tried using reason and logic and not fanaticism and propaganda

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    2. Anon @ 1.39. what's the point? Believe it or not, many many reasoned and logical debate topics have been tabled on MinerBumping over the past 2 or so years, but you fuzzy wuzzy carebears will simply move the goal posts again & spew hate & childish insults. You really aren't interested in a reasoned discussion because you know you could not win one. all you care about is your insular little bubble of space, MMO be dammned!

      But since you brought it up, here's a logical & reasoned one for you: CCP themselves sell EvE to players to "Be the villian" & have created the functionality within the game to allow ganking in high sec. So what exactly is your problem when some Eve players choose to play the game in a way as fully intended and encouraged by CCP?

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    3. They also allow mining in high sec, they have created the functionality to autopilot a ship. So what exactly is your problem when some Eve players choose to play the game in a way as fully intended and encouraged by CCP?

      You think you know me since I'm cassified as a carebear? You can't do that kind of generaliztion, the carebear "community" is much too large for that.

      Of course I can't win discussions. Even if I did, Codies wouldn't acknowledge it since "CODE ALWAYS WINS!!!! ALWAYS!!!!". Winning is not even my goal.

      Now, to answer your question: My problem with CODE is that it's mostly a religious organization, mixing it's RP with RL. I have a problem them trying to force me into their "only proper way to play EVE". I have a problem with the attitude many CODE members have. I

      I am not trying to change rules of the game. I am mostly challenging the CODE doctrine.

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    4. While mining and autopiloting is allowed, I'm for one think that autopilots can be blown to bits if one desires, its EVE, you can kill who you wish, when you wish - just be aware of game mechanics to get away with it.

      I had my 1st blown ship+capsule in Rancer while autopiloting - I was new, didn't know better - but understood that while the mechanic is there you take a risk by doing so... if not CCP would make autopilot warp to 0.

      As for mining, its the most boring activity, get to a rock, wait, wait, wai... no interaction, and nothing else to do while you mine... terrible - it almost begs to go AFK, which isn't the point of playing a MMO. Miners should encourage CCP to make mining less AFK friendly and more fun (hacking mini game I though was good addition) instead of wasting energy complaining about losing some pixels while they weren't even looking at them.

      I see the "Tounge-In-Cheek" of the High -sec saviour and its followers. The more I read, and understand the why/how/where the more it keeps the game alive. I live in wormholes, and one attractive of them is the lack of local and sense that danger can appear right next to you anytime (a cloaky proteus is always there lurking) - its space, and space should be dangerous and scary. Embrace the danger and play (here, play, its a game).

      On another note... after some time out of game (thanks fail Archeage), have a young Gallente pilot ready for Code enforcing, been just a reader for too long!

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    5. But I'm such a serious gamer :(

      I get humor, but only so far. When people don't break the character even when discussing RL stuff, it gets annoying, and even worrying.

      Anyway, "community" was in quotes just because there's no one community, only tons of small corporations. And NPC corps. That's why I don't really like generalization, I don't really fit into your idea of a carebear.

      I know what's the reason behind CODE, and I agree with the goal (in a nut shell: make highsec more insecure). I don't think CODEs actions are the right tool to accomplish that goal. Not that I would be taking any action at all, so I guess it's better than nothing.

      I think fixing the game would be up to CCP, but if everything I think is wrong in EVE would be fixed, it'd be a completely different game. You know, fantasy setting, night elves and orcs etc.

      Just kidding, I have not even played WOW, I don't know if it's better than Eve :P

      "Same comment I made a moment ago"
      Well, almost.

      Oh, and I take it that you went around that ban of yours :P

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  21. Naturally Codies don't see anything wrong with their actions. Even when the company that runs the game treats them as "griefers" they take themselves as the most mature players. Even after banhammer has swung they claim having done nothing wrong.

    "Hearing only what you want to hear, and knowing only what you've heard".

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  22. Since suicide ganking has always existed in Eve, and no one is banned simply for doing it, your statement that CCP treats them as griefers doesn't hold water. It was CCP that created the mechanics that allow suicide ganking. It exists because they invented it.
    There is in fact, nothing wrong with suicide ganking. It is part of the game, and the role of 'bad guy' in Eve is not only one of personal opinion, but also part of the Role Playing element in an Role Playing Game.
    This is what confuses care bears. They believe the only role is legitimate is the one that they play- whiny, wimpy, and useless. However, CCP encourages all roles including 'be the villain' in their own marketing.
    CODE is role playing....dread....in a role playing game. They are far more interesting than boring, unimaginative, and wholly ineffectual care bears AFK'ing their way thru a game. They chose a role to play, and play it without breaking character for the most part.
    That is, by definition, the entire point of an RPG. That care bears lack even the most basic ability to do the same, much less comprehension skills to understand it- the fault certainly doesn't lie with CODE.

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  23. That was Maria who stated that, complain to her. I just used that statement :P

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  24. It's been my experience, Anon@2:06&1:53. Despite CCP's tragicomic slide towards carebearism lately, my interactions with actual players have followed the same patterns. The most toxic, ignorant, inbred-seeming wastes of protein I've encountered have all been carebears. Most of the positive interactions I've had have been with pvp-centered folks, whether in highsec or out of it. Hell, I had a lovely conversation with the goonswarm "recruiter" who scammed me out of my gnosis, and he helped me find a corp which was a better fit for me (after he'd taken all my money, and confirmed I wasn't going to be too butthurt about it). The minerbumping channel is full of lovely conversation, and the occasional song or bit of poetry. The antiganking channel (before I was banned for "being a codemonkey") was full of conversations about how they'd love to apply electric currents to the testicles of those who beat them in the game.

    The comparison is stark, and it does not favor carebears. So, even if (gasp!) it places me in disagreement with ccp, my opinion stands: gankers are the most mature, dedicated players I've ever met in eve. I'm honored to stand by them, and I'm disgusted that ccp would place the whining of bot-wannabes over the playstyles of the best part of their userbase. But if they really don't want my dollar, then they won't have it.

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  25. I have a totally unrelated question. Why do you consider high-sec miners in general and bots in particular harmful to you? This sure is a frequently asked question so you will easily provied me with a link that will explain everything.

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    1. http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/09/the-carebears-killed-nullsec-pvp.html

      Here you go. tl;dr: carebears lobby ccp to remove risk from the game, which removes content, which makes the game worse.

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    2. Maria, how's that Carebear corp you're in doing?

      Mining/industry? (http://evelocal.com/quote/203779264) and no permit in the bio... sounds legit.

      I hope you're not trying to awox the corp... :P

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    3. "I hope you're not trying to awox the corp"

      I hope she is!

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    4. I'm seeing how the other side lives. As some of the carebears here have taught me, can't talk about what you haven't personally experienced. So far...I'm underwhelmed.

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    5. So... awoxing.

      Maybe someone should warn the corp leader ;P

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    6. If you like. I think it might be harassment to follow me around and try to prevent my standing in my corp, but that standard might not apply to carebears. If nothing else, it'd be a good test case. Do me a favor and copy me on the evemail?

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    7. I didn't say I was going to do it, I said maybe someone should :o

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    8. Ok, i got the idea, wall of text was enormous by the way. Killing pods with smartbombs was nerfed too, wasnt it? Anyway thanks for the answer, sorry for getting you into trouble.

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  26. This post reminds me of the time Veers claimed to be an elite pvper because he took a T1 cruiser out on a nullsc roam. Now-a-days Veers doesn't claim the elite status but instead goes on and on about how fucking great his boring ass pve incursions are.

    I got news for you Veers:

    1. i love real life harassment. it make my cock fill with blood
    2. emotional torture is fun when you are in control
    3. people like you beg for humiliation. you are a lawyer and a tea party member.
    4. you are one giant bonus room victim

    Veers you are a bad person in game and on the forums which leads one to believe you are a sucker in real life. I even have proof of this

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  27. Typical CODE response. You guys are the lowest of the low.

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  28. Veers this doesn't change the fact you want people concorded just for bumping. Even your AG buddies aren't that stupid

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  29. Awh, now I feel bad if I blew your cover :(

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    1. And now I missed the correct reply button too

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    2. If only the apathetic care bears of High Sec could unite behind a CSM candidate...

      https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=386664&find=unread

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    3. Haha, don't worry about it. I really haven't been having that much fun in the corp (we got wardecced, and despite my plaintive cries of "let's go get 'em", everyone just stopped playing for a week), and if I did get kicked for being a Code supporter it'd actually be pretty funny. And it'd be a good occasion to test whether the rules (about following people around and harassing them) apply equally to gankers and carebears. So whether or not you or someone else decides to try warning the corp ceo about how eeeeeevil I supposedly am, no harm done.

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    4. I am not sure how it'd fall under harassment if someone warned the CEO

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    5. You don't understand how trying to get someone from minerbumping kicked from their corp in-game might count as harassing them?

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    6. If you put it that way...

      well, I can't do anything about it now :/

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    7. Ha! Mind sending me a copy of the mail as well? For, uh, archival reasons.

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    8. Eh, I'm not sending the mail. What I meant that I can't delete my posts here so that others would not.

      Besides, I would not be so careless that I'd tell you who I am :o

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    9. Can you two stop flirting and get to the good parts?

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    10. Keep your pants on, we're not there yet

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  30. Veers also makes a good target for trolls, he can't help but respond.

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