Previously, on MinerBumping... Agent Kalorned was on a routine patrol in the Gamis system when he encountered Allesdair Crendraven, an overeager Iteron V pilot who didn't see the need to purchase a permit. The Iteron V and its cargo were bumped for a few minutes and then destroyed in a righteous gank. But Allesdair was in no mood to offer a "gf" in local. Instead, he questioned the legitimacy of the Code enforcement action from every angle.
Things got serious in a hurry. The space lawyer suggested he would take the matter straight to the top.
There are those who believe the Code once contained a provision barring carebears from petitioning our Agents. According to some of the oldest copies of the Code, threatening to file a petition was an automatic Red Pen offense. The intent, presumably, would have been to lessen the burden on EVE's GMs, who would otherwise need to handle tens of thousands of frivolous petitions. If such a Code provision existed, it was removed at the direct request of CCP. For now, it must be considered apocryphal.
Before Allesdair set to work on his petition, he wanted to know why he'd been ganked and podded, rather than simply bumped for the duration of the convo.
Kalorned explained that Allesdair had already revealed enough of his true nature over the course of the convo to condemn him.
The space lawyer wasn't having any of it. Despite his carefully crafted arguments and slick persona, he couldn't resist the use of Miner Bingo quotes. Allesdair wasn't nearly as smooth as he thought he was.
The former Iteron V pilot had the gall to question the motives of every permit owner in highsec. Kalorned maintained his composure. He didn't get into the business to gain popularity; everything he did was for the sake of the Code.
Allesdair continued to indulge in the most heretical of ideas. He aimed at nothing less than to undermine the very foundation of modern highsec society.
It was clear that Allesdair couldn't win an argument with a New Order Agent. And so he once again raised the specter of the nuclear option.
Anyone who has been to Gamis knows that Kalorned has nerves of steel. Unmoved, the Agent invited Allesdair to tell him how the petition fared.
A week later, Kalorned remained quite free from any disciplinary action by the GMs. He hadn't heard a peep from CCP--or from Allesdair. Time for an update.
The moment of truth arrived. Allesdair confirmed that he'd spoken with "several GMs". And what was the current state of bumping law?
Grudgingly, Allesdair had to concede the legality of Kalorned's enforcement of the Code. He disagreed with CCP's decision on the subject, but there was no denying that the decision had been made.
A good space lawyer never gives up the fight. One day, Allesdair hoped, the GMs would become willing to do something about the Code. For now, he would do his AFK'ing while confined to a station. The space lawyer bides his time...
~ The Colonel
And once again, the Carebear leaves the problem for "someone else" to do something about. At least he decided to stay docked up in station while going AFK instead of doing it out in space while doing something dumb like autopiloting or mining.ReplyDelete
The Code considers even small victories, victories.
Sounds the same as you ming. You leave the miners for 'someone else' to do something about and stay docked up in station.Delete
Sound a lot like you anon 0729, you do nothing but shitpost and leave content creation for "someone else"Delete
Eve is dyingReplyDelete
Oh look at that! It appears as if subscriptions are ~going back up!~Delete
Looks like ~you're wrong again!~
oh yeah one cold week means there's no global warming. please....Delete
With as long as ming has been running its mouth, and with all the dumb things its says, why would you expect it to start saying the truth now?..Delete
Come on now, Ming is a new order agent, he is incapable of the truth...Delete
Be silent, my butthurt pet.
Eve is dying and it's because of all the stupid shit the bears asked forDelete
the sooner this once wonderful game dies the better.....look at what you people reduced it to ...yes code and the bears between them.Delete
Look i'm a lawyer both in game and RL... In Fact, I don't distinguish between the two. That's why I favor buffing Concord to become exactly like the police state that is the USA.ReplyDelete
OK i am pretty sure this is the fake veers and not the butthurt oneDelete
concord to be like usa police???? that will only help agent the black agents of the code the white ones will go free ....Delete
Whoa!! ....actually...Concord IS like the American police...they prevent nothing, dispense justice without a trial, and only show up after a crime has been committed.Delete
Highsec is too dangerous, especially with all these space lawyers running about.ReplyDelete
Let's be fair here there is no content creation in high sec. High sec is merely there for money and material while the rest of eve is where the real content is at. While isk making can happen in any sec of space people in other sec's get used to being hunter and prey and in high sec it's just money. Gankers gank for money. Miner's mine for money. Missioners mission for money. In the end all high sec is about is the isk.ReplyDelete
Spoken like a true anonbear.Delete
Does the New Order like to make ISK? Yes. We do. We like it a lot. But the thing that separates us from the carebears is that our EVE experience does not revolve around ISK. We just want to make Hisec a better place for everyone.
When a New Order agent says that they don't care about ISK.. they are telling the truth. We don't care. It is possible to like something and not care about it. I like Ice Cream.. but I don't freak out if I don't get any.
If you think i'm a bear i'm sorry to say you are incorrect but lets look at some fact's of code agents. You get srped and get to sell the loot from kills it equals isk. you get isk from the permits you sell so it equals isk. you get reinforced more then your ships are worth if you use your own so you get isk. sorry freind you may say what you well but money talks and you get paid well for what you do. Low secer's generaly no srp. Risk of a counter drop every time. risk of capital and supper capital drops. the same is true for null as well. Minus the supper capitals and you got wormhole life. So ya high sec is for isk all other secs are where anything of any concern happens.Delete
But i do enjoy the tears you guys get so the sites fun to readDelete
Hi Anon 1:21,Delete
I'd like to dispel the myth that all New Order Agents operate under exactly the same conditions.
I took a decision right at the start of joining the campaign, in late 2013, that I'd pay for my own ships and other expenses. I was in full-time work, so it wasn't too much of a problem.
I'm lucky in that respect; others, not so, and I'm happy to help them out when I can, by giving spare change to the Cause.
Look at my KB (https://zkillboard.com/character/94012070/); rather thin, no? I do what I can, when I can. If I were in this for profit - or even to break-even - I should have left long ago. I've sold fewer than 10 Permits.
Yet for all that, I am as committed to the Movement James began as my more active comrades in the CODE. Alliance, and those others, like myself, who operate outside it.
I'm not sure what you mean by "you get reinforced more then your ships are worth if you use your own so you get isk", but I hope I've addressed it here. A T2 Catalyst costs around 12-15m Isk. I might get 3m-6m of that back via the Loot Fairy. I use 3 chars a lot of the time, 2 of them Catalysts (the other a Scout). As an aside, you don't need this many, I'm just trying (and almost succeeding) to hone my co-ordination skills.
Hardly a money-spinner, is it?
My impression of those who spend much time in Lowsec is simply that they like to blow stuff up. Great! The problem James identified back in '12, specifically affected Highsec, and that was where he based his wonderful solution - The Code.
When you say 'high sec is for isk', I fully understand your meaning. The Highsec population is famously swelled by the carebearing alts of Nullsec dwellers.
What James has achieved, via the New Order SRP, is very similar to that which operates in the better Nullsec blocs, with the inspired addition of contributors to the fund becoming shareholders. Alas, we have no moon-goo cash-cow; all our money comes from selfless donations.
Thus, the opposite of what you claim, is true of the New Order. It is because we are generous when we can afford to be and humbly thankful when not, that we are certainly the premier philanthropic organisation in Highsec.
I'm grateful to you for raising those points.
I don't undock for fear of getting involved in space litigation.ReplyDelete
Allesdair claims nobody buys mining permits to support CODE of their own free will.ReplyDelete
Maybe he is right. Real supporters buy shares. And not just 1 either.
I honestly don't understand how anyone can say that New Order Stock doesn't pay dividends. That just eludes me.Delete
@ Ming 2:22,Delete
Lets be honest, alot of things elude you.
Understanding, Intelligence, the will to undock, they all elude you.
Coulda saved Allesdair (and the GMs) the trouble by directing him to the threadnaught on bumping in C&P...ReplyDelete