Ganked while flying a fail-fit Retriever in highsec. Yet so many carebears end up exactly where NightStalkerTheSecond did. Agent Bellatrix Invicta, who was responsible for killing the miner, sent him an informative EVEmail and was promptly invited to join a convo.
Bellatrix Invicta > Greetings, miner!The first curveball: The miner immediately brought in someone to assist him. He had no intention of allowing the Agent to steamroll him in conversation. I'm surprised more miners don't do this, except that most miners are loners (even--or perhaps especially--if they belong to a large highsec corp).
NightStalkerTheSecond Hellbringers > can i call my freind in here
Bellatrix Invicta > You bet.
Bellatrix Invicta > Eskobar Troyun o7
Eskobar Troyun > o7
NightStalkerTheSecond and Eskobar were members of Fratres in Armis. In fact, they were the only two members. Supposedly they had each other's backs, but I didn't see Eskobar telling his buddy not to live the life of a highsec miner.
Bellatrix Invicta > What questions can I answer for you two?Our Agent began with a polite version of "RTFM".
NightStalkerTheSecond Hellbringers > okey so im sorry but i dont know what the deal with afk mining?
Eskobar Troyun > What happened? what rule did hwe break
Bellatrix Invicta > Ah, well, it was all explained in the email I sent you.
Bellatrix Invicta > Did you read it?
Eskobar Troyun > i read the rules and of the new order. He didnt afk mineIt's amazing how many carebears claim to be in total compliance with the Code, and yet they lack mining permits. Is there some other New Halaima Code of Conduct that I should be aware of?
Bellatrix Invicta > Specifically, the part in bold, and red.
NightStalkerTheSecond Hellbringers > yes, m,aam
Bellatrix Invicta > Okay, can you show me your permit?
Bellatrix Invicta > Not having a permit while mining in Highsec is against the law.
Eskobar Troyun > can you show us where to get the permits?...And straight into the denial phase. Carebears lose their curiosity about the rules once they're told they need to part with some of their beloved isk, no matter how little. The permit is a great litmus test for bot-aspirancy.
Bellatrix Invicta > From me!
Bellatrix Invicta > 10m a piece for 365 days of safe mining!
Eskobar Troyun > you just show up, kill him. then say he violated a rule never advertised
NightStalkerTheSecond Hellbringers > with all do respect ma'am im packing up and mining somewhere else im not buying your damn permit
Bellatrix Invicta > Oh, but it is advertised.The brothers-in-arms claimed total ignorance of the Code. Admittedly, CCP ought to include something about us in the tutorial, or possibly the launch screen. If CCP won't teach the miners, we will. It's often said that if you tell someone to look up the information for themselves, they'll remember it better. Similarly, according to New Order science, the best way to teach a carebear is to kill them.
Eskobar Troyun > where?
Bellatrix Invicta > We own all of Highsec and have for 3 years.
Bellatrix Invicta > If you don't know it by now, are you even PLAYING Eve?
NightStalkerTheSecond Hellbringers > we are new players we didnt know this existed
Bellatrix Invicta > Well, now you do.Ah! Behold the newbies, so quick to pick up the latest in carebear excuses. At this point, most EVE players have only the dimmest understanding of sov mechanics. But Eskobar was all ready to go with the "you can't claim sov in highsec" nonsense.
Bellatrix Invicta > We were all new at one time.
Bellatrix Invicta > Welcome to Eve.
Eskobar Troyun > yea?? you killed 1 miner who was just tryna get a bit of cash in a suicide gank because you make psuedo claims to neutral territory
Eskobar Troyun > other than it isnt possible to own highsec
Bellatrix Invicta > Sure it is. We do.The miner's brother-in-arms dismissed the Code entirely. That's no way to get a reimbursement.
Bellatrix Invicta > Every person in highsec is subject to our laws.
Eskobar Troyun > you got a deed for the space?
Bellatrix Invicta > Yep. It's called The Code.
Eskobar Troyun > thats bullshit and you know it
Bellatrix Invicta > Don't presume to tell me what I know, miner.Again, Eskobar clearly hadn't read the Code, which explicitly and emphatically places miners at the bottom of the EVE hierarchy.
Eskobar Troyun > "miner" you say that like you are above me
Bellatrix Invicta > I am.
Eskobar Troyun > for what? being a bully?
Bellatrix Invicta > Bully? No.
Bellatrix Invicta > For being a glorious PvP pilot.
Eskobar Troyun > You just suiced ganked in high secOnce again, the newbies were up-to-date on all the carebear clichés. If only they could be so well-versed in the Code, and ignorant of carebear talking points--instead of the other way around.
Bellatrix Invicta > Sure did. Good fight!
Bellatrix Invicta > Wish I had gotten the pod.
Eskobar Troyun > because you want a monopoly
Eskobar Troyun > on space you cant own
NightStalkerTheSecond Hellbringers > that's not pvp shooting a defensless mining vessel
NightStalkerTheSecond Hellbringers > their is no honor in that
NightStalkerTheSecond Hellbringers > no glory
Eskobar Troyun > question. how do you treat lvl 1 who cant afford a mining permit? but need to mine to get it?Another red flag appeared when Eskobar referred to himself and his fellow newbie as "level 1"s.
Bellatrix Invicta > 1m for 24 hours of safety but you pay 20m after that.
Bellatrix Invicta > And if you can't, we just find you again.
Bellatrix Invicta > Because barges are more expensive than permits.
NightStalkerTheSecond Hellbringers > he has a venture
Eskobar Troyun > what about starter vessels?
Bellatrix Invicta > I don't care what you're flying to be honest. I've dunked rookie ships and I've dunked freighters.
Eskobar Troyun > why?For the record, Haatomo is a 0.6 security system. Eskobar was absolutely convinced that all highsec was newbie space. (Another tutorial fail.)
Eskobar Troyun > they violate a law that they break just by joining?
Bellatrix Invicta > I will not attack you in a newbie system or a career system.
Bellatrix Invicta > Outside of those select areas it is game on.
Eskobar Troyun > that was a newbie system
Bellatrix Invicta > Haatomo is NOT a newbie system.
Eskobar Troyun > if a .7 isnt i dunno what is?
NightStalkerTheSecond Hellbringers > so your saying that it was justice me getting killedThe ignorance of the newbie brothers was astonishing. Could they be taught to obey the Code, or would they only continue to rage at its truths?
Bellatrix Invicta > Yep.
Bellatrix Invicta > You were stealing James 315s rocks.
Bellatrix Invicta > I can't let that stand.
Eskobar Troyun > who is james
Bellatrix Invicta > WHO IS JAMES?!
To be continued...