Of course I was only joking. You knew better than that, dear reader.
Let's begin today's Grab Bag by tying up a few loose ends. Here, we see the prequel to ClawingBear RoundTree's EVEmail to me in a previous MinerBumping post, I Wasn't AFK, I Was Just...
And in response to a request I made for a Russian translator in the last Grab Bag:
The mysterious "bell tower" remark is thus clarified. Now we can move on.
Arclite Vakarian is the latest to complain that the New Order of Highsec governs highsec instead of nullsec.
The truth is, someone needs to clean up highsec, and it might as well be the organization dedicated to cleaning up highsec. I always felt this made sense, but apparently some EVE players find it unintuitive.
Goat The-Admiral > jurking around in high sec ganking kiddie miners"I am a calm miner, I just..."
Mal Warre > calm yourself miner
Goat The-Admiral > Im very calm
Goat The-Admiral > I just dont like basement dwellering taking time out of there day to stoke there egos
Mal Warre > for someone who isn;t mad you really like throwing about cliched insults
Goat The-Admiral > Drink bleach
Goat The-Admiral > End of dialog
This is a great story. Nelli Veloce, a new player, had her Venture ganked by Agent Rekang. But Rekang was even newer than Nelli--having played EVE for less than 24 hours before scoring his first kill. Even better, Nelli ended up purchasing a mining permit. You don't need to have tens of millions of skillpoints and a bunch of allies or expensive ships to make your mark in EVE. All you need is the Code.
At the risk of mixing metaphors, Kayleth Swiftblade wasn't the swiftest knife in the drawer.
Kayleth bought into the theory--popular among some carebears--that CCP isn't sure whether or not ganking should be allowed in highsec. They have spent the last decade or so trying to make up their minds.
When confronted with evidence of CCP's intent, such carebears lose their temper and try to push us into gazenvagen.
Why does the CODE always win (always)? Because people like Ryscantor are my "worst possible enemy". Ryscantor was right about one thing, though: He won't receive any fame for his heroic acts taking me down.
Meanwhile, in Anti-Ganking...
These guys have a long way to go before they become Ryscantor-level threats.
There are a lot of things you could say about this EVEmail. So many things. But I can't get past the fact that the miner's name is the breakster. Is that wrong?
It's becoming ridiculous how many carebears and their loved ones are supposedly getting injured or otherwise physically incapacitated IRL at the very moment our Agents gank them. Maybe highsec really is more dangerous than null.
Well, as long as the new order and jamie remains in Highsec the average IQ of people in Highsec will remain less than 70...ReplyDelete
Thankfully they're here then to keep it at a high level then!Delete
Anon @ 6:51Delete
"New Order are dumb dumbs"
Lot's of great bits in this grab bag!ReplyDelete
"It's becoming ridiculous how many carebears and their loved ones are supposedly getting injured or otherwise physically incapacitated IRL at the very moment our Agents gank them. Maybe highsec really is more dangerous than null."
"New Eden Freedom Council"
-AGers hoping that someone will DDOS the minerbumping site for them-
Antigankers started a salt farm from all those tears XD XDReplyDelete
Laughing our arses off here in Panorad you guys keep taking the rope. Hang on a minute is laughing our arses off against CODE policy? Because you guys really do make us laugh long and hard at your ineptitude and shitty play style. All you guys do is log undock blap some idiot warp to safe spot wait for 60 second timer to finish then dock wait 14mins while trolling said idiot for tears, undock rinse and repeat day after day month after month year after year.ReplyDelete
With all the possibilities Eve has to offer that's all you muppets are able to do, no wonder TEST kicked you out of null. Yes we have experienced jumping into TEST fleets and their Titans, along with GOONS and PL. Oh hang on a minute we actually play Eve you guys just bot day after day week after week month after month year after year. One thing is certain when the servers eventually go dark we will still be laughing at you, keep up the good work you guys are machines.
Laughter is certainly the best medicine, and you chaps are the biggest joke in Eve well done.
"No wonder TEST kicked you out of null."Delete
The butthurt is strong in this oneDelete
you make it sound like such a mindless grind, you know kind of like mining for hours on end.Delete
While I appreciate CODE culling the weak and stupid from the EVE universe, I would love to see a detailed report from James on CODE's effect on server population over the last three years. By his own admission and verification on kill boards, CODE has been highly successful in the number of haulers/miners they have killed. What I have yet to see is proof that their tactics are : 1) making the game a better game for all and 2) effecting server population positively (I,e,, making CCP more financially sound to support their product.) While CODE's tactics and methods are, of course, legal and some would say enjoyable, I wonder what the statistics say about the effect their campaign in EVE is having on the overall "health" of the game. Perhaps that is what is trying be accomplished: They are out to destroy THE game AND your game. Interesting, if true.ReplyDelete
If we were truly bad for the game CCP would have done something about it besides collect all the salt from your tears and sell it in bulk.Delete
Er,kid, I hope you were referring to miners or haulers with the use of "your tears" in your post; neither activities of which I do. If you were referring to me, then I must assume that be some pimply faced kid under 35 or so and this tired old insult that you used is the best you can scrape together. For every well written James post, I guess there has to be a juvenile supporter reply. Perhaps James could be better served by offering writing classes to some of the younger and less educated supporters; he is certainly a well spoken and thoughtful leader which his followers should want to emulate.Delete
Why would anyone care about the overall effect of CODE on server population, if such a thing could actually be measured without confounding variables? Prohint: it couldn't. CODE doesn't exist to make CCP more money, increase server population or promote conditions that you consider to be "healthy" for the game.Delete
Deal with it.
James, please help your followers write more coherent and cognitive arguments. Alas, the internet has spawned angry, young men. If the above poster truly represents CODE and their philosophy, then it appears that your group cares little about the present or future of EVE's well being and this so called public service you proclaim you are doing is nothing more than another facet of griefing Admittedly legal, but still I wonder if some damage to the overall game is being done.Delete
I await another fine reply from one of your surrogates.
Lol you r died?Delete
Do note that I wrote "promote conditions that YOU consider to be 'healthy' for the game." Realize that what you think is good for the game is utterly irrelevant to people who aren't you. What if you are wrong about what you think is good? After all, this is merely a matter of opinion. In my opinion, CODE does nothing but good for the game! Prove me wrong!Delete
Do you have any good evidence to suggest that CODE results in "damage to the game" or are you just spouting hot air?
I await another foolish reply from an uniformed anonymous CODE detractor.
Anon 11:12 "What I have yet to see is proof that ..."Delete
Remind us, who are you anyway ?
The best part about all of these tears in the comments is there is nothing else they can do to stop us except whine anonymously on the minerbumping blog XD XDDelete
"2) effecting server population positively (I,e,, making CCP more financially sound to support their product.) "Delete
You shall know the carebear by his fixation on CCP's finances.
Bizarre fixation. Won't cough up 10mil for a permit, but insists everyone pay full rate, while they farm as much money for plex. Hypocrisy stinks in whatever form.Delete
Perhaps if these same imbeciles petitioned CCP to pay CODE to keep up population they might get somewhere?
Oh, my. I had no idea that a post praising both the type and effectiveness of CODE, but also inquiring politely about the possibility of any negative effect on the game itself would be met with such anger and bile. That those posters continue to spout the same tired and trite memes one would expect from the younger generations suggest the dire possibility that the miner/hauler ignorance and feeling of self-entitlement so readily shown in your chat logs may be viral in nature.Delete
Well, I am far too mature to not be able to admit my mistake. I should have directly emailed my inquiry to you, James, so that you could have responded in another well thought out and reasoned response. It appears that you have accomplished wonders by being so effective accomplishing your stated goals, while being forced to work with a certain percentage of your followers who are apparently quite young. I have the same type of problem with the lawn service company I utilize; it takes a good foreman to oversee quality work.
I will, perhaps, continue this discussion directly with you, as it has become readily apparent that while this site is marvelous in both the quality of your personal posts and the information the different facets offer, your support staff is somewhat lacking in skill.
I wish you much success and look forward to starting a mature dialogue personally in the future.
As a side note, I never claimed to serve in the armed forces, so your minion's claim that I was "uniformed" is most inaccurate. Please notify him/her of their error. Thank you.
I wouldn't bother, you can sneeze and loyal will claim it's tears.Delete
Some ppl tear up after a fit of repeated sneezing.Delete
WOW that Ryscantor guy sounds really dangerous! Pack it in, guys...this anonymous rebel leader sounds serious!ReplyDelete
Yes, it really is becoming ridiculous with the frequency AND the details of all the emergencies and child care urgencies that miners are claiming around the time they received enforcement action.ReplyDelete
Yes revis it is, it is almost as ridiculous as the new orders panties in a wad moment over how other people play EVE...ReplyDelete
Once again I, -=M=- have had the fun of spending a week ganking miners and then teaching them how to avoid the likes of code. During the same time frame as this post covers, i to had the pleasure of undocking and finding unaware miners. After a gank, i would draw them into a conversation, and offer to teach them how to avoid being ganked by myself, or by undesirables (like code). I typically would spend a good hour or two showing them how to be aware of potential gankers in system, how to set up bookmarks and deep space waypoints, as well as a variety of other tricks i learned in my years on how to avoid being ganked.ReplyDelete
Much to my amazement, this week 2 miners did manage to avoid me before i had time to gank them. Either they are starting to learn from my techniques, or they in general are getting smarter and learning to be aware of their surroundings. :) Whichever it does not matter, they are learning!
Anyway, let get to the juicy stuff! During this 7 day period, i did manage to catch 20 miners napping, and was rewarded with their barges going pop. Of those, when i offered to teach them, 5 declined. Perhaps next time they will take up my offers. Of the remaining 15, they all accepted my teachings, and did quite good. I was only able to gank 1 of them on my second try. He did manage to avoid me on the third try thou :)
As rewards, i gave each of them a fully fit mining ship, with T2 mining crystals in the cargo bays. I was well aware most of them can not fit T2's yet, but this is to encourage them not to give up mining, even if harassed by code.
I also offered each of them 500 million isk, after they showed me they could avoid future ganks. Several declined on the isk, but i still gave away 4.5 billion to help a few of them.
P.S. On a side note. I noticed that every time i offer to let Ming Tso in on my ganking, he not only declines to join me, but he then after seems to disappear from the comments here on minerbumping. Perhaps i should offer him this more often, it seems a better way to keep him docked up and quiet.
@Ming Tso, i am planning another exciting week of ganking miners, likely the 3rd or 4th week this month. Might you finally want to join me?
Till next time,
Lots of love :)
Oh, and before ming finally wakes up and demands i tell him who i ganked, or to show him 'proof' with logs, i will answer him. No ming! no! If you want to see those i gank you have to get up off your lazy rear, undock and join me. Its really not that hard, well except maybe for you.....Delete
So you're actually engaging the high sec miners and getting a timely response AS well as positive outcomes in your teaching methods?Delete
This too is good for the game as it is for Code members to try to outwit and thwart in the future if they desire to do so.
The whole point of both Code and the Anti Ganking sides is to encourage interactivity with the game by miners who three years ago was totally oblivious to everything that was going on around them.
Now they are a bit more awake and aware, unless something happens while they're mining, some realize to dock up but that lesson hasn't been learnt by everyone just yet.
Also the AFK autopiloting of freighters, orcas and other industrial ships carrying 10B+ Isk is on the decrease which also displays the awareness of pilots that High Sec doesn't mean total safety. There are however still pilots who hasn't learnt of the dangers though as can be seen in the recent Burn Amarr and the wonderful retirement party for Warr Akini of Miniluv.
High sec has NEVER ever offered total safety and concord doesn't provide protection against being attacked, merely retribution for the attack after the fact.
Local chat in a lot of high sec systems has been far more active, jovial and there's a stronger sense of neighbour folk than ever before.
This is the true gift of James, Code agents and the anti gankers.
@ Daniel Sidrat, Yes miners are becoming more aware. I understand code tries to teach them this by being harsh on them, which i disagree with. I think if you reward them for paying attention, you will get more results. Case and point is how many miners buy a permit from code and then are repeat offenders (from codes point of view of course).Delete
I feel my way is the better way to deal with miners, and from the results im getting, its quite likely i am right. I also am opposed to the idea of the way anti-ganking works. Seriously....you might stop one gank, but if the one being ganked has not learned then what is the point?
No, my way seems to be working better. I am getting results rather then just kills. From time to time i try to gank someone that i already taught, and im getting good results of them being awake, aware, and active.
P.S. Ming, my offer always stands to help teach you how to gank, and even undock if need be. :D
-M- lies best liesDelete
I totally support you, MReplyDelete
YOUR way of doing things is definitely better than Code's.
It's really more friendly than Code's "BOOM you're dead, pay up a permit"
Thank you, mr N?Delete
What i find funny is that code agents need to rely on donations to be able to go out and do ganks. I have no one funding me but myself. All my isk i generate goes to the ships i use, the mining ships i give worthy miners, and the isk rewards i give them for becoming aware.
I often wonder why if code agents are so elite, that they cant generate enough isk on their own to gank? Just this past week when i was losing ships to concord to gank miners, i was not using destroyers like they do, but rather cruisers, and in a few cases battlecruisers. If im good enough to do this, they are also, right?
@Ming, any replies? Im still waiting.
You are lying about helping anyone. Prove you did with killmails and logs, or it didn't happen. All else are attempts to draw someone out.Delete
No one cares about your childish games you idiot.
Your entitled to your opinions butthurt anon @ 11:47.Delete
The reason i provide no logs is first nothing code does can force me to follow your 'orders'. Second, why would i provide the names of those i help? Doing that would only call butthurt code members down on those people im helping. Third, by not providing logs or killmails, i enrage code members to froth at the mouth and break keyboards (ming does this quite often from what i understand), and that alone is worth the isk i give to miners :)
So in conclusion, call me a liar if you wish. Your words mean nothing, however the thanks i get from the miners i help means everything. :)
Oh, and i wish to say im sorry to butthurt anon at 11:47.Delete
I should have told you "thank you" for your responce, so thank you :)
Please do feel free to comment more about how my kindness to miners irritates you. :)
no irritation on my part, friend! all i did was call out obvious lies from an obvious liar! your response was in line with what i expected: no proof, just bait. lol!Delete
As you can see, -M- has quite the obsession with me.
Oh ming, there is no obsession with you, just an interest to make you a better person. It is quite unhealthy to always stay docked up. I mean even miners are better then you in this regard. It honestly must be quite the shame for you, which is why im always offering to help you.Delete
Take my hand ming, and i will show you the mystic ways of the undock. I will stay by your side during the scary time of the gank, and lead you to become a better person.
p.s. Ming, are you declining yet again? Do be brave this time.
Wow M, I must really be in your head.
Do eet ming! do eet!Delete
Undock and show him your better!
A doctor, Ming Tso, a little boy and a priest were out for a Sunday afternoon flight on a small private plane. Suddenly, the plane developed engine trouble. In spite of the best efforts of the pilot, the plane started to go down. Finally, the pilot grabbed a parachute, yelled to the passengers that they had better jump, and then he bailed out.ReplyDelete
Unfortunately, there were only three parachutes remaining. The doctor grabbed one and said "I'm a doctor, I save lives, so I must live," and jumped out.
Ming then said, "I'm a code member, and code members are the smartest people in the world. I deserve to live." He also grabbed a parachute and jumped.
The priest looked at the little boy and said, "My son, I've lived a long and full life. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you. Take the last parachute and live in peace."
The little boy handed the parachute back to the priest and said, "Not to worry, Father. The 'smartest man in the world' just took off with my back pack!"
Joker ~ Anon
You guys crack me up!ReplyDelete