Today, a lesson in unintended consequences:
For those of you who haven't been following this, an anonymous carebear in the comments section of various MinerBumping posts challenged Agent Ming Tso's commitment to the Code. The anonymous carebear thought he'd scored some points, but actually he'd fallen right into Ming's trap. Ming Tso purchased 11,000 shares of New Order stock, sending us over the 550, 551, 552, 553, 554, 555, 556, 557, 558, 559, and 560 billion isk marks. Ming also earned the very first Undecuple Supreme Protector's Tip of the Hat™ ever awarded.
That extra 11 billion isk is now available to reimburse our Agents' ganking ships. The anonymous commenter's mistake will result in the deaths of hundreds of billions of isk worth of carebears. A heavy price for such a thoughtless mistake.
Next on the agenda, some tears sent to Agent Snigie Audanie:
I must admit, I've never heard the Code referred to as "click-bait" before, but I guess it is.
Snigie was antagonized by members of Lung Seizure Disco Beavers corp. In addition to Snigie's ganks, reinforcements were called in from various New Order wardec groups.
Compliance is the destiny of all who would oppose the New Order of Highsec. Snigie Audanie celebrated his victory by purchasing 515 shares and sending us over the 561 billion isk mark. Snigie earned a Supreme Protector's Tip of the Hat™ and the respect of all the Beavers.
New players, especially highsec miners, get a bad rap. I don't know why that is. Consider the case of Zealous Miner, a brand new player. Just a few days into the game, he purchased 10,000 shares and sent us past the 562, 563, 564, 565, 566, 567, 568, 569, 570, and 571 billion isk marks. I hope all the other new players will learn from his example. Zealous Miner earned a Decuple Supreme Protector's Tip of the Hat™.
Jahyson Malone is a name you should all learn. He's a rising star in the highsec art world, and you can see why:
This guy gets it. Everyone in highsec should follow the Code. Of course! It's so simple!
Permanent links to all New Order artwork may be found on the Links page.
The Code ALWAYS Wins!!!! ALWAYS!!!!ReplyDelete
Congratulations again on your purchase, Ming! I can see what when I resub, I'm going to have to step up my donating game. Our pilots need ships, and it's OUR responsibility to help provide them!Delete
And that's called putting your money where your mouth is, carebears.Delete
A nice investment Ming.Delete
Wb to the game ming and when are you coming back to low sec. Leave high sec to whoever wants it low secs where the funs at. Hope your having funDelete
With egg on their facesReplyDelete
And mumbled apologies
The miners retreat
Oh crap, miscounted first line. Ok, let's try that again:Delete
With egg on his face
And mumbled apologies
The miner retreats
Shouldn't have changed from singular to plural in the first place...
I dare everyone to invest large amounts into the rebel cause for one of the following reasons:ReplyDelete
1. As an agent you think no amount of isk will help defeat the New Order but would find it entertaining to watch.
2. As a true supporter, you know that your isk will be used to bring down the New Order once and for all, regardless what the New Order guys say.
You can read more in my bio or visit www.heroesofhighsec.com
I've noticed you've raised a total of 4 billion isk, and that you're struggling to find investors.
One thing you could do is to actually get in a ship and figure out a way to stop the New Order ganks, (as you promised your shareholders you would do.) Once you've done that, then you'll have content for your blog that amounts to more than just repeating a sockpuppeting post that you made on the EVE-O forums using an alt, to galvanize support for your cause.
Remember, James had a blog long before he had supporters, and it is his dedication to his blog, and to his job as Saviour of Highsec, that makes people believe in The Code, and open their wallets to support the New Order.
Nonsense, getting new investors all the time, at a quicker pace than James. It won't take us 3 years to defeat the New Order like it has taken the New Order to get to this level now. I dare you to invest in the rebels. Or are you scared we will use your isk to win?Delete
I think it's more that we suspect you're just going to keep it all. If you seemed like an honorable scammer, and were going to donate it all to the New Order coffers anyway, then we'd happily give you money for a laugh. But that's not certain enough, and while I fully support the right of EvE players to scam each other, I'd rather not let myself be scammed just to prove a point.Delete
So far, the only two things you've done are create a website, and solicit for donations. Cool, you've got some startup funds now. Are you going to actually do anything in-game with that money? We're all waiting to see you do anything, anything at all.
Come on Held, nobody wants you to succeed in rallying the rebels more than we here at minerbumping do. It'd be great to have actual opponents for a change. But to rally anyone, you have to get in an actual spaceship and fly around. Forum posting with alts will only get you so far.
There will be plenty of opportunities to prove, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that it is in fact not a scam at all. And you'll see that over time. Perhaps you'd like to invest an amount that is large for most players but not much to you, such as a billion or so?Delete
Honestly, Held, begging does not become you.Delete
If you are to gain the trust of storied investors of the kind that James 315 has, you have to be willing to "put your money where your mouth is."
If you can prove that you can stop just one New Order gank, then I'm sure at least some monied individuals might look twice at your order. But as of right now, you have a blog with no posts, a killboard without kills, a corporation without members, and as a result, a wallet without funds.
Please do something to rectify this.
Haha! Ming fell right into my trap.Delete
I wanted him to waste money on new order, and he not only did the 1,000 i challenged him to but did 10,000 beyond that.
I tip my hat to your stupidity ming! :)
Grats on wasting so much isk :)
Well, at first, I was only going to purchase the 1,000 shares. But then my "repeating myself" problem that you tell me I have must have kicked in! I had accidentally put an extra "1" in the amount!
I caught the it as I was proofreading my post, sharp-eyed as I am. But then, like a cold wind coming over me, my thug nature kicked in.
I looked at my wallet, and realized that this is what thug life is all about.
And I started bobbing my head. And then I turned up the volume on my speakers, left the extra "1" in the amount, and hit "send.
Giving isk to the New Order and James 315. I don't think I've done anything more satisfying in my life. I feel like a superstar. Everybody needs to get in on this action.
Thank you M for challenging me to push myself to the limit. Now, not only am I one of the Top Ten Shareholders of the New Order, but every carebear who looks at the Treasury and tells us that the New Order is dying has to eat their words! Thank you M. I couldn't have achieved this great position without you!
Ming, you da real MVP.Delete
Oh and M, it is a grievous sign of your bot-aspirancy that you apparently believe that donating money to a cause you believe in is "wasting" that money. Do you also believe that giving money to charity is a waste? It doesn't get you more money after all, it "only" goes toward improving the world as a whole. Just like money given to the New Order.Delete
Held der Finsternis, there's only one sure safe bet, when donating isk to make sure its used properly for fun. That's not to you but the real hero's of highsec the new order.
Sounds like she's scared held's rebellion may win. hahahahahaDelete
If that's what you want to believe, Anon@9:02, be my guest. You might want to send some money to Held yourself, since he keeps on repeating that he needs more donations. Come on, anonymous miner, put your money where your mouth is!Delete
I would like to issue a challenge to "M."Delete
I challenge him to purchase 1,000 shares of Held's "Heroes of Highsec" stock. (maybe even pull a "Ming" and purchase 11,000 shares!)
It is time for that carebear to put his money where his mouth is!
(And Held, you're welcome, although I doubt you're gonna get anything out of him.)
99% of all charity is scams like Code anyways so yes it's waste of money Maria Malukker.Delete
Now that's just ludicrous. Charities aren't scams.
Charities help do good all over the place. Look at great charities like Carnegie. Libraries everywhere. Look at the Red Cross. 4-H. Doctors without borders. They all help people. Your house burns down? Red Cross will give you some money for clothes and a place to sleep while you get re-situated.
The New Order may be a for-profit business, but that doesn't mean that we can't "Do good works." We help by cleaning up the highsec experience by dispensing justice on those who pollute the environment with their profanity and greed. We fight those who are enslaved to money. And every .01 isk donated to the New Order Treasury is used for the reimbursement of ships for New Order Agents hungry to enforce the Code, and defeat bot-aspirancy.
I can't think of a more charitable cause than that.
See what you miss ming is this:Delete
I planned to use your pride to make you donate isk to Code. to prove you where over prideful of yourself. You not only did what i taunted you into doing, but you did it 11 fold over what i taunted you to do. Pride to the extreme.
I achieved my goal of getting you to give more isk to james.
Yes, i may have inflated the new order treasury in the process, but i still proved my point that new order agents are easy to manipulate.
To put it in a way you understand, with less then 10 posts on here i managed to scam you out of 11 billion isk. Keep in mind to scam someone, you dont have to recieve the isk directly, which is exacaly what i did to you ming.
I will say your welcome to james, since i did him a service in helping him achieve his scam of grabbing the most isk ever in game. :)
*pats ming on the head* dont worry mingy, its just a game after all, and code agents say isk isint that important, right?
No Ming Tso, all leaders in those organisations have been caught stealing just like the Code does.Delete
You don't follow the news right?
There is a lot of stuff happening outside EVE so try to shut down the client for some time and feel the real world and read it's news.
Ming buys shares in the strongest business in highsec, is happy and proud of his new shares. M thinks he scammed Ming, tries to spin it as a victory.Delete
Hehe, poor maria, there is no spin to it. I did what i set out to do. My end goal was to get ming to spend isk on james scam, he did just that. Only thing that was even better is ming's vanity got the better of him and he went 11x what i was shooting for. Maybe your just jelous i came up with the idea and managed to scam ming?Delete
Ladies and gentlemen, behold!Delete
We have seen the two-faces of this anonymous carebear who shall be only known as "M."
In one instance, he complains about how I did not serve the noble Order that I do, with the refrain: "Ming doesn't have any shaaares!"
And when he is shocked and surprised that I am indeed the ninth largest shareholder in the order, he changes his tune, quickly as lightning!
"I just extended the life of the New Order of Highsec by getting you to buy so many shares!" M screeches, scrambling to find a new story, after his first one crumbles! "I scammed you even though James 315 and the New Order got the money!" The carebear screams.
Well, I have something to tell you, "M."
You can't scam somebody out of something that is freely given.
James 315 writes on this blog every day, vastly outstripping His counterpart, and has faithfully kept every promise he's ever made. He has delivered ALL of Highsec to the New Order! He has thanked every shareholder who has donated, and he has kept the carebears to this site, so that we may skewer you until you decide to become compliant. He is deserving of my gift, in fact, Held der Finsternis, the leader of the so-called "rebels," (whom you refuse your own challenge to donate to) has appeared here to beg for donations, bending the knee before James 315 and His Agents, begging to be their clown.
There is only one face that I wear, M. And that is the face of a New Order Agent. And no matter how many times we square off, I will always win, you will always be left scrambling to hide your bitter defeat at the hands of the New Order. Financially, militarily, conversationally. The Code always wins!!!!
Wow ming, your sure taking this hard.Delete
Should i eve mail james and ask him to return your isk?
It seems like its really bothering you.
*gives ming a hug*
It will be ok, really.
So, I guess you admit that I'm a New Order Agent then huh?
Cause you know, I have some shares now?
Maria Malukker you say that scam Code is a company?Delete
A company that hides every verifiable report is not a trustworthy company.
Someone told Ming to get the economy reports from CCP and he failed to get real verifiable documents that CODE can never produce since they lie to much.
Oh, I forgot that you play so hard you think CCP is just a game mechanic but that company is real and as all companies they need to have public reports.
How is it possible that neither loyalanon, Maria Malukker or Ming Tso have done anything according to public kill boards?Delete
Ming, prove you dare to gank and go gank Maria Malukker or loyalanon if you dare. I'll watch kill boards the next few days.
Well, I wouldent call ming an agent. Not anymore then I would call a miner who got scammed into paying 10 mil for a permit an agent. Shareholder? Yes sure your a shareholder ming. Thing is miners get scammed for 10 mil, sometimes 30 mil, but your the first to get taken for 11 billion at once. If it hurts to much, please let me know, I'll try to get James to give it back, cause you know care bears and their fixation on isk. Personally I think I did you a favor, care bears love their isk and I fear it was starting to affect your soul. If anything, you should thank me for ending your care bear fixation on isk.Delete
Lots of love,
It's possible because you don't have to gank people to be a part of the New Order. You don't even have to log into the game. You can serve the New Order by doing anything at all that supports the New Order.Delete
Ming Tso recently re-subbed. Maria doesn't have an active subscription. loyalanon's skill is with organization, it was said. The New Order has plenty of teeth, if it chooses to bite.
In the end, though, it doesn't matter what you think of them because the New Order is their family, and accepts what they do as good enough. M issued a challenge, and Ming rose to it. If the score is to be evened, the onus is on us. Can we rise to a challenge?
This "victory" by M is about as hollow as a pringles tube.Delete
If anyone actually rises to a challenge among the rebels it'll be you, Star. M is too busy trying to bait Ming-sempai into noticing him, and ReportsAnon only cares about people reading CCP's economy reports (because if CCP is losing money, that must mean the New Order is responsible and should stop because CCP gaining money and subscriptions is the only absolute good). Among all the rebels and non-Agents who post here, you're the only one I think would ever actually part with money to further a cause.Delete
The question then becomes, is that something you want to do? Say you did give money, the New Order were defeated, and the rebels won. People like M and ReportsAnon would not acknowledge the importance of your contribution, or thank you for it. If anything, M would make fun of you for being "scammed" into donating money, and he wouldn't be the only carebear doing so.
It would be noble to give to a cause you support, even when that cause opposes the New Order. But do you want to be the only carebear giving, and to save ingrates at that?
It's difficult for me to explain my position fully because there are a lot of little things that make up the whole of what I'm thinking, and the question seems to make some assumptions that I'm having a hard time untangling.Delete
If my money did something I thought was good, I don't care what people would say or if anyone acknowledged it or not. Doing a good thing is its own reward, and if you have to do it alone, then so be it.
A challenge doesn't have to be monetary, though I suppose you get used to carebear conversations being about that. I see no shame in giving Ming credit where credit is due. For what you do, Maria, I give you credit, too.
Whether defeating CODE would be a good thing or not is a different question, as is whether I'm saving ingrates by doing whatever it is that I do.
I get it.ReplyDelete
Zealous miner created just for this maybe?ReplyDelete
Center for Advanced Studies [CAS] from 2015.03.02 00:45 to this day.
Not really trustworthy
this carebear won't give isk to anyone. theyre all too greedy to give to held, that's why the new order will never be beat, carebears are too selfishReplyDelete
SABRIZ FOR CSM!!!ReplyDelete
ALSO GREAT ARTWORK!!!
ALSO CAPSLOCK IS YES
more shareholders, list updatedReplyDelete
Where is your blog post congratulating those who just now joined your cause? You need to make your shareholders feel "special," Held.. like it was a fantastic idea to contribute!Delete
Oh, just wait and see, you're going to love everything I have planned... well until the last bit where we defeat the New OrderDelete
Is this because since your last shareholder update you've only accumulated 51 million isk?Delete
Held, have you considered attempting a hostile takeover? Just imagine, if you had a 51% majority of shares...Delete
Held I'm worried about all these vague future plans and victories with no practical way of getting to them. You know who had similar assertions? every failed resistance movement that's ever existed.against code that's who. Still I'm sure you'll just put it down to Op sec and get back to your lists.Delete
Oh dear God, I'm laughing so hard at held's latest post. Rote Kapelle PLOT TWISTS lolololDelete
Best us of funds would be donating to all the Veers alts.ReplyDelete
All Veers alts are code monkeysDelete
Seeing how i managed to scam 11 billion out of ming to give to a great scam artist (james), i now wonder if i could scam more out of him using his pride and vanity to donate now to Held....Hrm....such posibilities lolReplyDelete
Yep, a fool and his money are soon parted...poor ming...ReplyDelete
The only thing i regret now is that i didnt dare him to buy 10,000 shares. If i had perhaps he would have let himself get scammed out of 110 billion instead. Oh well, live and learn, there is always a next time :)Delete
Can you imagine the amount of numbers James would have to write if someone managed to make a 110 billion isk donation?Delete
Why, we'd have an entire paragraph of numbers!
Fortunately, M, like you, I have only challenged you to meet a 1 billion isk bar in Held's whatever-he's-calling-it-anti-new-order.
If you do not meet this challenge, You shall be considered to be "defeated."
Do yourself a favor and show that you're not "all talk."
Love, the #9 shareholder in the New Order,
'Consider the case of Zealous Miner, a brand new player.'ReplyDelete
Wow 10billion, I never realised afk mining was so profitable!
It is, how do you think ming got his 11 billion?Delete
Code don't want competition and try to make them quit before they get to powerful for Code to handle.ReplyDelete
It's just the Code way, they say they want content but not when it threat their own existence.
Where do you get that from, Anon@4:09? We keep on encouraging carebears to donate to their cause. We're actively urging you lot to band together and fight against us. How do you get from our saying "Carebears, donate to your rebellion and fight us" to "Code is trying to make the rebels quit"?Delete
A related question: what behavior on our part would you interpret as our wanting carebears to join/support the rebellion (since apparently saying "carebears, please join and support the rebellion" isn't cutting it)? Is there anything we could say or do which would convince you of this, or is your certainty that we're trying to make the rebels quit independent of empirical confirmation/falsification?
I am confident that the New Order will be able to handle all so-called "competition" from the rebels; In all of time, there has never been a rebel movement that has done so much as successfully strike a blow against the New Order- and that's not going to change now.
Think of it like Neo in the last "Matrix" movie- The carebear is blind, flying at full speed towards the New Order, and the New Order effortlessly dispatches the carebear hero, without even so much as a yawn. At best, the carebear is able to achieve equilibrium with the New Order, but only as long as it sacrifices itself in the name of peace.
Ming Tso keep on living in your dream it's OK to be afraid to see.Delete
You seems to be very angry since your so called donation that is still unverified if it even occurred.
Give us an API-key that verify that it really happened or consider yourself a liar and forever a big loser.
Sigh. Projecting much, Anon@4:58? Ming's been triumphant since his donation, and basking in the praise of his peers. If anyone's been angered by his donation, it's you and M. Or are you going to join your buddy in asserting that donating to a worthy cause is being "scammed"?Delete
Ming is trying to get me to spend isk now that he spent 11 billion lol. See the thing ming is on my main i rarely keep more then half a billion, and even then i hate seeing that much in my wallet. I can make isk easy, 100 million in an hour or two is so easy, but i rarely bother to do that. What happens when i feel i have to much? Simple. I come on here and see who you guys scammed out of isk for a permit, and then using one of my alts i make a donation to them, giving them back what they wasted on you. At no point have i had 11 billion sitting in my wallet doing nothing, that is just greed and vanity to have that much, and only care bears keep that kind of isk. Care bears like ming that is. So ming, while you strut around saying you donated 11 billion isk, well i donated far more then that in the past few years, and always to needy people. At least the isk i give to people is without strings attached, and given freely without asking for anything back in return. Try it some more, you might enjoy the freedom of not being attached to isk brings. Unless your care bear ways are stronger that is.Delete
*gives ming a hug*
Maria Malukker, just take a look at how frightened your friend Ming are. He gets really angry as soon as someone talks about anything that may go against you.Delete
Are you that weak or what do you try to hide?
CODE don't want to share their sandbox with anyone who might pose a threat to their fake believes.
How wonderfully unverifiable, M. Particularly since you've only been commenting on minerbumping for, what, a month? And people with your, well....interesting personality can never resist commenting. So suuuuure, I'm fully convinced you've spent the last several years giving money to random carebears.
I'm not seeing Ming seem either frightened, or angry. Is this like all those times M kept on referring to typos Ming wasn't actually making? Also, please answer my question: Is there anything that Code members could say or do which would lead you to believe that we actually do want carebears to join the rebels, or is that belief independent of corroborating/contradictory facts?
Maria Malukker, yes you try to psych them before they pose a threat to you.Delete
If you don't see that you're the best psychopath in entire EVE.
And Mings so called donation is still unverified, why are you Code dudes so scared of giving verifiable proof?
What about the 1 week old miner that donated 10b,how trustworthy is that?
Clearly a Code player that tries to break down the scary resistance.
So, M, what you're saying is that every time we sell a miner a permit, You're the one who's actually paying for it? Wow! That's pretty amazing! So tell us, how much has the New Order scammed you out of? Must be a lot!
Probably not more than my more-than-substantial contribution of 11 billion shares, which, I think we and everyone here can agree, absolutely met, exceeded, and I think "objectively belittled" your challenge. Additionally, it denies you the ability to ever surpass me in shares of New Order stock. That, I can assure you, will now never happen. I have effectively denied you.
Should you want to know, I have that amount of isk, because I'm not a scrub and I know how to properly make isk in EVE- and it honestly took me about ten hours to make that. You see, there are so many ways that one can make ISK in EVE that are better than mining or highsec ratting. Not that I'm going to tell you those ways because they involve risk- so I won't be bothered to waste my breath telling you about them.
But I will say- It certainly is good to be me right now.
Also, what "strings" were attached to my donation of 11 BILLION isk to the New Order Treasury? Donations to the New Order have never come with strings- except for the Supreme Commander to register the share purchase on the Shareholders list and with a public thanking for each 1 billion isk milestone.
So I'm going to go ahead and bask for my second day in the limelight, have a nice code-compliant day!
Did you recently become a shareholder in Held's Anti-New-Order thingy?
There's a person who talks just like you do that just bought a whopping 50 shares in his order- and he didn't even thank you for it the way James would.
Check it out: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5553651#post5553651
And Ming is still unable to produce verifiable proof of his and the 1 week old miner's fake donation.Delete
Give us proof or forever be the biggest liar in EVE's history.
Ming, hard to buy something with a currency from a game you don't play.Delete
If I played I would not care so much for someone to thank me or give me anything back as you do.
I'm used to help people in my work without getting anything back except that I know that one person is safe for now.
And you have mixed your anons that's one thing I'm 100% sure about.
I think your mistake, Anon@6:12, is in thinking that we have some kind of an obligation to convince you. James has proven himself to be the single most trustworthy individual in EvE (yes, even more so than Chribba), and James has, as is his custom, registered and documented Ming's donation. That's enough for any reasonable person. The alternative you're positing is that James is faking these donations, and putting money in the New Order treasury out of his own pocket. That's the same James you keep bleating is a scammer who's taking everyone's money. Ah, #minerlogic.Delete
Oh, hi DenialAnon! How's your week going?Delete
If you're tired of being mistaken for all the other Anons, why not start signing your posts? You don't have to use your main toon's name (since you totally don't play EvE, wink wink), but pick a name for yourself. It'll help avoid future confusion.
Maria Malukker, no proof that are verifiable then your are bluffing and to scared to admit that.Delete
Ok, Anon@6:33. Where do you think the money for new gank ships comes from then, if not from player donations like Ming's?Delete
Why are you so obsessed with me being here as an anon?Delete
As long as you are to afraid of giving proof of the donation from the fake miner and angry Ming you have no rights to know even a fake digital name from me.
Well, it's also hard to send an in-game EVEMail to James 315 if I don't play the game either- so you got me there.
And of course, you're a carebear. If someone was to give you say, 11 BILLION ISK (like I did, to James 315) I'm sure you would not be offended if you didn't get at least a "Thank you." Carebears never thank people who do good things for them- like watch over them while they mine. Those noble, but misguided fools always come over to the New Order- precisely because we keep our words when we say we'll reimburse ships, thank people who give donations, and issue permits to those people who give us 10 miliion isk.
I know you think i'm lying, but I'm really not when I say that the New Order is literally the most honest organization in Highsec. Our writing is on the wall, we're not two-faced, and you can absolutely be assured of how we'll react to any circumstances. We'll simply win. And then we'll tell you about it.
Maria Malukker, from stealing off course.Delete
The only game mechanic which allows theft is corp theft, where a character will join a corp, get director roles which allow access to communal hangars and equipment, and steal it. Those characters are not going to be James (since he's well-known), and they're not going to be members of CODE. (since CODE. is well-known, it'd show up in their employment history, and carebear corps would never trust them). So people who aren't James, and aren't CODE., steal isk. Then that isk must get to the New Order treasury, since that is where the gank ship reimbursements come from. How do you think that it gets to the treasury, if not through donations?Delete
No Ming, honesty is one thing that should never be connected with Code.Delete
I have read to much on this forum to know you always bend the rules so you can get a gank and hunt for rage.
Maria Malukker, you call yourself a police force and steal the ganked players stuff. Start acting like a police force and stop living like pirates.Delete
Anon@7:00, we can't actually steal the ganked players' stuff. It is impossible within the game mechanics to take their stuff. I guess we can loot their wrecks, but that frequently won't pay for the cost of ganking ships. Suicide-ganking is not profitable most of the time. So, again: if you think that donations like Ming's are fake, and if you think that James isn't privately financing the whole thing, where do you think the money comes from?Delete
Maria Malukker, show me verifiable proof or consider yourself a liar.Delete
Let me ask you an honest question:
You come to this site, Minerbumping.com, every day and you read the stories.
Do you believe they are fabricated?
Every day we come across miners who say they will follow the Code and then they don't, forcing the New Order Agents to revoke their permits and decommission their illegal mining equipment. We come across carebears who lie about being AFK. We have carebears who tell us they're CCP devs, or that they have "powerful friends in nullsec." And finally, we have certain carebears who literally create a clone of this website- except it's supposedly for the "benefit" of the carebears and things like "truth" and "honesty," etc. And then one of the first stories on that website is how one of that guy's top shareholders actually only wanted to buy 50 million of shares, accidentally bought 1 billion, and then Held refused to give his money back.
We don't have to fabricate our stories. The truth is good enough.
It is also the Truth that I have given James 315 11 BILLION ISK for shares of New Order Stock. I considered it my donation for all of the good times I've had with Minerbumping as an Agent of the New Order over the last year. And if you don't think that's true- wait until you see the explosions that my isk is going to cause! That's enough isk to wardec 220 corps!
Still no verifiable proof Ming so I think you are lying.Delete
You are so scared of giving verifiable proof because they will kill your bluffs.
What would you do if I gave you verifiable proof?
If the proof shows you really donated you don't lie about that at least.Delete
But I really doubt that you will ever provide proof.
That's not good enough. Try again. What would you do if I gave you verifiable proof? Give me something worth proving you wrong over.Delete
Im starting to think ming and maria are the same person. Same rage, same delusions, same care bear activities, both get upset at the same things.Delete
Well this got boring quick.Delete
Ooh, ooh, do you also think we're James' alts?
@ ming, Learn to read more correctly. I didnt say i pay for their permits. I said that i look at who got scammed by new order and using an alt i give them isk. Sometimes its 10 million when they just got a permit and you all left them alone, sometimes its more. Depends entirely on my mood and how bad they where scammed by the new order. Actully i kinda thank james for this website, before this site it was hard to know who did and didnt get scammed by new order, now its easy, just read the stuff going on here every day.Delete
I also will agree with you ming that yes it is easy to make isk in game, unlike you thou i dont hoard isk and keep only a little for myself. Keep in mind, you admited to having over 11 billion at one time, sounds very care bear to me. You might ask why you never heard of someone giving isk to the ones you scam, well why would they tell you about it? Even letting you know all this i still havent told you anything, cause you dont know who i am, who my main or alts are, and only an vague idea who i gave isk to.
Try again ming, My isk goes to worthy causes, the victims of new order, yours just went to a criminal group. :)
*gives ming a hug*
btw, please dont be suicidal since you lost that 11 billion isk, i know some care bears are like that. Dont quit playing either, i just got you to re-sub after all!
gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8Delete
I totally believe that you've reimbursed everyone who's ever given money to the new order, M. Yyyyup.
Wait, God, I just realized. If you convinced yourself to give money to people who aren't you...does that mean you scammed yourself?
You, by saying that you give permit-holders and other donatees of ISK to James 315, means that you are personally accepting financial responsibility for the carebears' losses! This means, that by reimbursing the carebears, the New Order is actually doing economic damage, not to the carebear, but to YOU. You're the one we've been scamming all this time! I think that's fantastic news!
If you need help, I'll spell it out in a diagram:
Carebear Gives Isk to Ming
M gives isk to Carebear
Carebear is removed from the equation
M is giving isk to Ming!
And it goes further!
Ming gives isk to James 315
Ming is removed from the equation
M is giving isk to James 315!!!
It's so simple! You're the one we've been scamming! And given your anger at having, well, you know, your entire attack vector ripped away from you yesterday, I'd say you've got a valid right to be angry!
Of course, It makes sense that I'm getting all the credit for the donation. After all, I'm that good and amazing. I managed to steal 11 billion isk from you, M, and use it to fund the New Order and it's gank squads!
Gosh I'm shining so hard right now DO YOU SEE THIS SHINE?
Wow, ming you really are delusional.Delete
Btw, thank you M, you gave me 50 mil to help me a few weeks ago when i got ganked and taken by these fakes.
Sure, Anonymous-poster-too-scared-to-use-a-toon's-name! How nice for you that you were given some money by Other-anonymous-poster-too-scared-to-use-a-toon's-name! I don't know about you other Agents, but I'm certainly convinced now, M is the real thing. Yyyyyup.Delete
Glad to have helped you anon @ 8:53 pm. I dont recall who you are, i usualy give isk to a few people every day, but im happy to know it helped :)Delete
Ild also like to thank james for this blog, so that if anyone else i helped wants to say thank you they can. Thank you james :)
P.S. Calm down maria, its just a game, and the isk isint supposed to be important to code members, remember?
What a wonderful conversation i had last night in game, as james would say, let me tell you all about it. A little over 6 months ago some agents of new order ganked a wonderful lady that i now know in game, and at the time she did have very little left in assets, as most of her isk was tied up into her ship. (yea i know, bad idea). I read about it here on miner bumping (thanks for the info james!), and got in touch with her in game :) Turns out when i got in touch with her in game she had only like a week left on her sub and was going to quit playing, so i helped her out with 125 mil isk to get her back on her feet. Besides the isk i also sent her several helpful mails with details how to avoid ganks, how to invest her isk, and generly how to stay safe from the thugs and criminals of new order. Fast forward to last night. I got on my alt (same one i helped her with months before) and she started up a conversation with me. I was very happy to find out she had continued to sub the game and play, and even better yet had learned how to keep herself safe from criminals in the game. Even more impressive, she is now the ceo of a corp, doing quite well from what i see and makes a fair amount of isk with her corpmates :) She asked me if she could donate isk back to me as a way of saying thank you, and i politely declined, instead offering to have her "pay it forward".Delete
Confused i guess, she asked what i ment. I said that ild rather see her help a new person, preferably one that new order made an example of on their blogs. She agree's with me and is now planning on doing much the same as me, and giving excess isk she makes to players that have been hurt by new order. Way to go!!
Im of the firm belief that instead of waging a war with ships against the new order, which wont work because the odds are stacked in new orders favor, that instead you should be kind to new players and keep them in game with kind acts. Save the new order targets by helping them :)
Ild just like to say thank you to M for the help you gave me 2 months ago when i also got ganked by new order thugs. The 75 million you gave me helped me get back on my feet, and the tips and tricks you told me about helped! I have yet to be ganked by new order thugs again, and managed to avoid several of them since then. I also will do like you suggested the lady do, and will help out others when i can.Delete
Thank you again M :)
You do. Teach a man to fish?
The New Order does.
Let it go, let it go...
So i scammed you out of isk,
Let it go, let it go,
You knew the risk...
You failed at my game,
Yet you still act the same,
Does the 11 billion bother you,
Your a bad agent, this is true,
Let it go, let it go,
Code. never is up to quality standards anyway.
Recently, I've been hanging out in the Anti-Ganking channel, and I paid a number of folks who actively participated in some form of anti-ganking activity a small stipend of 10M.Delete
One of the people whom I paid said I was one of the few, and asked why I gave him money. When I said "Because I saw you policing hisec." he saluted me and called me 'sarge' like it was something amazing.
It seems unlikely to me that our protectors are being properly paid for the risks and time they take to do so. If we have all this cash, why is that?
New Order Agents will also beat any comers in chess as well.
I'm always up for a game, feel free to challenge me in these comments.
You're pretty dumb for thinking a pigeon could play chess in the first place really.ReplyDelete
I love the butt hurt hereReplyDelete
terrible art my 3 year old can do betterReplyDelete
Ming Tso, produce verifiable proof or be forever a liar.ReplyDelete
Why do you play chess?
Khet 2.0 is harder and more fun, you should try it.
Because Chess is a man's game.Delete
Also I'm sure that there are a million games out there that are harder than Chess. There's just not one that is as popular as Chess.
And you're not going to be getting anything from me with that kind of mouth. If you're not going to offer me anything I at least require that you ask nicely.
Since chess is a mans game that means your disqualified before you even start?
Kinda like the alliance tourny ehh?
It will be ok,
I dont know about the biggest liar, there is james after all, but worst, yea, he is by far the worst.ReplyDelete
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