Friday, September 12, 2014

See You in 315 Station, Part 1

In EVE as in life, war is inevitable. From Smoske jokes to the word "mate", almost anything can spark a conflict.


Meet Deando. He is a member of the Nulli Secunda alliance. Despite what you might have heard, they're no joke. Nulli proved its elite PvP skills with an impressive showing at the most recent Alliance Tournament, finishing in third place overall (behind CODE. and The Camel Empire).

Deando has two great loves: Linking racist GIFs in his bio and AFK autopiloting his pod through highsec. One of those loves was about to get Deando in serious trouble.


Tisiphone Dira, a strong, independent Agent of the New Order, spotted Deando's pod sneaking through the Uttindar system. She was compelled to destroy it. The pod contained no implants and was worth almost nothing.


You might be asking yourself, "Why would anyone care about losing an empty pod?" But that's not how EVE works. EVE is a game about power. There were great things at stake here. For Tisiphone, the New Order's territorial integrity and the Code. For Deando, the honour of Nulli Secunda.


Deando was above the whole "highsec" thing. He wasn't a highsec player; he was a nullsec player. Like an ice miner who doesn't consider himself a miner despite mining all day, Deando was only in highsec for reasons that didn't count.


Despite Deando's hostility, Agent Tisiphone politely presented him with a list of specific things Deando had done to violate the Code. After all, you can't punish someone for breaking the rules and not say what they did wrong. That would be crazy.


Deando dismissed the notion that the New Order owns highsec; only nullsec systems allow you to claim sovereignty. However, I would point out that N3's renters own sovereignty in far more systems than Nulli Secunda itself does. By that logic, maybe Nulli should pay rent to the renters?


Tisiphone was running out of olive branches. For some reason, Deando kept slapping them away, even when given the benefit of the doubt. Defiantly, the not-really-a-highsec-player vowed to repeat his feat of AFK autopiloting in a pod across highsec.


What began as an argument about an empty pod slowly escalated into something far more dangerous.


For the first time, Deando contemplated getting Nulli Secunda into a war with the New Order. Alarmed, Tisiphone acted quickly to defuse the situation. She would need to be creative:


Tisiphone understood that Sasha Nyemtsov's audio version of the Code has charms to soothe the savage bot-aspirant. It was definitely the way to go. Unfortunately, Deando wouldn't click on the link.


With Deando refusing to let go of his stubborn pride, and Tisiphone holding steadfast to the Code, there was no telling what would happen next. Nulli Secunda and the New Order of Highsec were on the brink of war.

To be continued...

70 comments:

  1. He can blow the shit out of the new order? What for free? does he swallow?

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    1. Gross gross gross gross gross
      Don't want that mental image
      Now I have it...fuck

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  2. Just like the united states, CODE. Will not acknowledge the fact that they have been bitch slapped like a little kid by CCP for illegal activities. Enjoy your ban. I will make sure the rest of you illegal doers get banned as well.

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    1. The only ones that got banned are shitheads like Erotica1, loyalanon and other people who find joy in harassing other human beings. Honorable gankers haven't been banned and we will continue to destroy your code-violating ships where we find them. Allahu ackbar!

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    2. loyalanon is still ganking freighters and miners

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    3. Now they even make up stories about loyal being banned to comfort themselves. Please check his killboard, there is no gab, only an endless stream of dead miners

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    4. So you're saying that the code is on the same page as IS?

      "destroy your code-violating ships where we find them. Allahu ackbar!"

      May obama bomb your house aswhell

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    5. Yup, the fate all terrorists, including internet ones, is to have a bomb shoved up their ass and detonated.

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    6. Better hope that CCP never actually follows it's own rules and starts banning people for hate speech and foul language, otherwise it's pretty much good night carebears - as evidenced by posts above :P

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    7. your tears, they taste so good.

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  3. It seems that this time that the NO has stepped on toes that belong to someone who will punch them in the mouth, because that is all the New Order, CODEdot, the code, etc... is all about, mouth. Words are all you have. Hell, I might talk to their leader and pay for a wardec against code. I might join their alliance for some good code killing fun.

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    1. I dunno, I've seen a lot of freighter kill mails. seems that's money where the mouth is

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    2. I agree with you to some extent, but the problem is that kill mails, show, well kills, not saves. There are no "save mails" in EvE that I'm aware of. There's been quite a few saves.

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    3. Anything to make you feel better about not being as relevant as code

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    4. So many ganks foiled
      Yet with not one video
      Yup...cool story bro

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    5. War has no meaning for us, most of CODE. are -10 anyway and can be freely engaged by anyone anytime. It just tells a lot about you that you still struggle with such basic game mechanics. With such unprepared (wannabe) enemies, how can we lose?

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    6. I doubt Nulli Secunda really cares if one of their idiots got podded AP'ing in high sec, and as Alyth said, Wardecs against a bunch of -10s are rather pointless.

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    7. LOL ... you can not be this daft.

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  4. Not really danks, thats a lot of no risk pvp...picking on targets that have no way to shoot back...lets see what you monkeys are like when facing something that even has a remote chance of winning against you...wait you monkeys showed us that when you RAN from the alliance tournament and lost...that one was hillarious...

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    1. "No risk" pvp it may be, but it's not talk it's action. The type of action it is isn't the issue.

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    2. "Not leet pvp!"
      So echo their tear-filled cries
      Always from losers

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  5. I've got to admit, after years of mining in highsec and a year or two of arguing with New Order agents, it is rather interesting that the New Order always says what you did to get their attention. CCP, on the other hand, seems to be banning lots of people under false pretense and hiding the real reasons. Maybe I should give this ratrace up and look into being an agent.

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    1. Its their game not yours. You don't like their ways? Good, then go away. You won't be missed.

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    2. That's odd; I see the reasons being true, and the real reasons being explained. Perhaps this will help:

      The took things that happened (supposedly) in-game, and posted without permission in-game "emergent gameplay" recordings that were exposed to the public. By taking this into the public mainstream, and for no other purpose that for humiliation and subsequent harassment, they violated not only Eve's EULA but also quite a few countries' laws.

      There. Understand *now*?

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    3. I understand that an anonymous poster made a bunch of claims about unknown things happening to unknown people. This anonymous poster has definite and specific ideas about why these unknown things happened to unknown people, although he doesn't present any proof.

      I understand this perfectly well; but it wasn't really worth it.

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    4. Anon 10:07PM

      Funny how that feeling only works one way - when it comes to the carebear who is crying that "high-sec should be safe!" and "my barges need more EHP and I don't want to fit a tank!" and "A solo AFK player in a freighter should not have to worry about 30 other players working together to take him down!" - it's just the carebear trying to present their reasons for why they feel something is not quite "right" about EVE.

      However, when it's the pirate who complains about CCP's double-top-secret rules that can result in a permaban for anyone at any time without even telling them what if any rule they violated, the response from the carebear is a response like yours.

      I do think, from what I can tell, you are a little too emotionally invested in hating pirates to really be able to from a valid and adult opinion about it. The childish level of "Anything that helps a pirate is BAD THEY SHOULD JUST QUIT anything that helps me in my personal play style is GOOD" is a way of thinking that belongs on Hello Kitty Online: Island Adventure - not with the adults of EVE online.

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    5. "However, when it's the pirate who complains about CCP's double-top-secret rules that can result in a permaban for anyone at any time without even telling them what if any rule they violated, the response from the carebear is a response like yours"

      And this is what worries me about the whole thing. The rumors I hear is that it wasn't just bonus room people and not all the bonus room people were banned. So what were the bans for? What's the "moral line" as you'd call it, in a game that champions scamming and betrayal? I don't even do what you guys do and I'm now worried this could result in my getting banned. Because all sorts of things can be seen as harassment; where's the line? Can I go shoot ratters in null? Blow up their miners, camp their stations, and insult them in local? Can I camp a gate so that guy who wanted a shortcut dies?

      Where's the line? What am I allowed to do? Because if it's just mine/mission and avoid other players, I want my money back. CCP owes the players an explanation. If what these people did was so terrible, tell us. Because I don't want to play a game where I might randomly get banned.

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    6. Well said Threadnaught!

      If there is a "line", then make it clear. Thou shall not do this, this, this, and especially this! And never ever THIS!!

      If CCP want's to go the direction of WoW in Space... that's fine, just please let me know so I don't invest anymore time into it.

      Anyway... the past dozen or so threads (comment sections) are getting really silly. To much frothing hate and insanity for something that is basically a 1st world time waster. I think I'll pass on them for awhile and just read the main blog until people come to their senses... ROTFLMAO!
      Ok, that's too much to hope for... See you in Uedama!

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    7. The line is already very clear. Focus on in game results. Stop with the tear collection and the intentional infliction of emotional distress and you won't get banned. The problem is that the CODE folks live for the tears, and that's why they rightly end up banned.

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    8. Mr Veers,

      If tear collection and intentional infliction of emotional duress is bannable and we must focus on things in game to avoid being banned, why are you on this website attempting to collect out of game tears in a harassing and unwelcome fashion? Do you consider what you are doing right now as harassment? What if someone else does? After all, it is their opinion about what you are doing that counts and not yours!

      You seek to define why people were banned and then instantly commit the same offenses yourself. What if I said your posting here has caused me extreme emotional distress? If I claimed this, you too would be as guilty as any of the banned players. Why? Well, you are here, outside of the game on a forum, attempting to collect tears using vile and hurtful words that make me feel bad. Since this isn't in game and you are harassing the poor people here relentlessly (in a prolonged, continuous fashion that would better fit any definition of harassment than any bonus room ever could), wouldn't you consider yourself guilty of participating in a real-life harassment scheme that targets eve players?

      Think about it, friend. The guilty party here, according to you, is you. How clear is that line now?

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  6. What is it with nullbears? why do so many of them have all this pent up anger?

    Does nullsec make one angry, is it like living in a place where pertually overcast & grey skies creates a despondent mood?

    They should join the Code in sunny highsec. Every day is glorious! A day with the Code is like a day on the farm. Every meal's a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune! Every undock a parade! I LOVE the Code which always wins!! \0/

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    1. correction: pertually = perpetually

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    2. not everybody wants to part of a band of losers and griefing whining highsec-carebears (=CODE)
      and this shiny thing that you see over you might be Jimmies ASS
      xD

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    3. It probably is Jimmy's ass. It does glow after all.

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  7. Classic ~315 here. Too tired right now to pick out the gems. For now..

    "After all, you can't punish someone for breaking the rules and not say what they did wrong. That would be crazy."

    Brilliant.

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    1. Loved that bit too. James is a hell of a writer.

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    2. I came here to point that out too. It's uncanny how our dear leader has always has the wit to comment on current events. Peace be unto him, and we will never forget the martyrs who committed the ultimate cost to bring High Sec into compliency!

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  8. Piss poor pod. Won't help Tisiphone in the contest. ;)

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  9. Veers will kick all your asses! He'll kick your ass while mission running.... veers FTW!!!!

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  11. you realize a nullsecr doesnt really care about an empty pod in highsec? all your doing is sending him home and letting avoid the long trip to get there or the time wasted waiting on their JC timer. in their case it would be wiser to not kill the pod....sheesh idiots.

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    1. So why didn't he self-destruct his pod like any non-idiot, you idiot?

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    2. Not always worth your time to do it. Generally with my out of corp scouting character, when I'm done with it I can either self destruct the ship/pod (takes at least two minutes of sitting at the computer to wait for the ship to blow up, or a bit of clicking to leave the ship, trash it, and confirm), or I can set my autopilot to take me to my scout's home base with less clicks, and turn it on immediately after undocking while I go to do something else (because generally after I've used it for a bit I want a break from the game for a few minutes anyways). If it gets blown up, then it's at home when I get back. If it doesn't... then it's at home when I get back. Either way I saved myself a bunch of clicking.

      Of course, this isn't to say that Autopilot is always a good thing; outside of instadock bookmarks, I don't use it on my other characters.

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  12. This blog is starting to look more and more like a heaven for terrorist like minded people.

    If you persist on claiming that you only do this for the game, there is something Very VERY wrong with you.
    You either have the need to Inflict hurt upon other or you don't.

    The ban on E1 and the escrow agent's (code agent's), show that people have a very very twisted way of "helping people".

    Your are not trying to educate a pilot, you are trying to educate a person with a similar fasion as a the Church used to do or even as the more extremists are doing these days.

    If you say there is nothing wrong with your "mentality" you schould talk to a counsaler.

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    1. Ah, the "Terrorist" buzzword. "I don't like it and I think it's wrong so it's terrorism."

      No, I don't agree with everything that CODE. does so I'm not going to defend them on everything... but for the love of god if you're going to attack them please don't sound like you're some Fox news fearmonger. It hurts your argument greatly. If you want to convince people you need to put your argument out there logically and rationally and explain it. What if all my info on CODE. I get from this blog? Your argument isn't going to be very persuasive, as it doesn't go in to detail about anything. It simply states that CODE. is out there to inflict pain on other people and that the agents have a terrible view of helping people. Why?

      And this is assuming you're talking about the bonus rooms and that they're just as bad as I've heard they are (I don't know, I've never listened to them. That aspect of Eve doesn't interest me). If you're talking about something else then I really have no idea what you're going on about. Is it the Suicide Ganking? Because although I also don't find suicide ganks interesting, I have killed many people that probably weren't wanting to PvP out in low/null. You have carebears everywhere. Hell, despite my dislike of suicide ganking, I've even done that a handful of times when an enemy alliance decided to use out of corp alts to move control towers/SBUs/TCUs to their staging system to be used against us. The person didn't want to PvP, but we saw it as a direct threat to our space so we intercepted it and blew it up in highsec, then got killed by CONCORD. Was that immoral to do it, or was I just playing the game?

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    2. Icey, you could not be more wrong if you tried.

      E1 and others from the "old" bonus room days were (and those who are not banned still are!) some of the coolest, most friendly and chill players that you could possible meet in Eve online.

      Sure, they loved to blow up people's spaceships and steal everything they owned and have a good laugh about it. That's a huge part of EVE online - ever watch any of the trailers? That's something that makes EVE special - loss is "real" and "bad guys" are welcome, it's part of the game.

      What you might have a bit of a hard time with is laughing at someone who is just awful at EVE to the point where they will willingly hand over all of their stuff - aided by the time honored tradition of playing on the greed of human beings and the good old "Already sent them X amount, might as well go all in!" state of mind.

      As someone who was present for many of the bonus rooms, both new and old - let me assure you, 99% of the time was nothing but singing songs, making up hilarious stories, and keeping someone busy while we did what EVE encourages as a valid playstyle - being the bad guy. If the criteria for being banned falls there, there's a LOT more bans coming - and they won't hit the New Order nearly as hard as they are going to hit pretty much every pirate/null alliance out there.

      Asking someone to pop onto TS3 and sing a song while you devour and distribute their assets is hardly a new thing, and to try to tie that to "the bonus room" is just silly - we never did anything new, we simply followed in the footsteps of those who came before us - and as far as I can see as of today, none of them are banned.

      Now, when it comes to "helping people" - you are also more wrong then you could ever realize. Yes, we love to steal money from the rich. But we also give it to the poor. I could name a hundred players who I have helped out, either by giving them a PLEX to get through a rough month, teaching them some of the finer aspects of PVP mechanics, chatting with when they had a bad day RL, the list goes on and on. Erotica 1 was well known for many acts of kindness of this nature.

      So.

      Before you lean back in your armchair and start comparing other players that you don't even know in reference to a situation that you were not part of to people needing to "see a counselor".

      Finally - I can't even begin to describe the level of silly in your statement

      You wrote:
      "The ban on E1 and the escrow agent's (code agent's), show that people have a very very twisted way of "helping people""

      So, due to the fact they were banned - everyone involved was guilty, otherwise why would they have been banned? :) Can you see how dangerous and flawed that line of thinking is? If simply standing accused of a crime is evidence of guilt, any semblance of justice and reason has now been thrown out of the window. CCP has screwed this up so many times over the years and reversed so many permabans - what makes you think they are suddenly infallible?

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    3. @Threadnaught.

      "The person didn't want to PvP, but we saw it as a direct threat to our space so we intercepted it and blew it up in highsec, then got killed by CONCORD. Was that immoral to do it, or was I just playing the game?"


      @DJ Entropy.

      I can keep this up with you for a very very long discussion.

      And in the end you will still say that i am wrong for all the reasons you wish to throw at it.

      I base what i say, on the way you do things. guerilla tactics in order to achieve your goal this is called "Terrorisme" You can actually look this up.

      Iv'e also said before that not al Code Agents are bad people just many of them are in Code just to HURT people they do not care for the game mechanics they do not care about code.

      I once asked the Qeustion.
      What Will you do when high sec will become fuly code compliant?

      the anwser was: We will start killing permit holders instead.

      I deleted my Code bumper the next day.

      You are here for tears.
      You are here because you want to change how people thing and act therefor the way how they look at things, Thus changing how they live their lives.

      THIS IS A WRONG THING.

      The fact that Certain players (i will adapt not using the bonus room part)
      Have gotten bans and account freezes, That even said that james 315 himself got banned once deu to bumping a certain player longer than 3 hours.
      He got a temp ban for harrasing a player.

      I agree with the part players should play the game as it was built.
      Then agin they are playing as the game was built, it merely got evolved over time.

      i personally find that afk/bot miners need to play according to all the sandbox rules, selling a permit to somebody while they still haven't read the code?

      Iv'e seen that happen way to many times and they go all angry on me, Why are you bumping me? i have a permit. (i have tried to get their permit revoked not a single agent was ready to help me out on that)

      DJ Entropy i would rather come back to the game to join the ranks as a bumper once again. Alas the way things are bieng portraited on MB.com it show that its all about sadisme.

      With followers that resemble Jihad warrior mentality.

      Is this enough explaination for you or would you rather have private discussion.?

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    4. I added some thoughts, but derped where I put them, you'll have to read in comments here: http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/09/ccp-forbids-pretending-to-be-affiliated.html

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  13. a pod got shot and you still couldn't sell a permit.
    thats not special, thats daily code-monkey life.
    shoot cheap kills and gain nothing.
    in businessterms you lost money for the concordokened ship.

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    1. In business terms he got great value, paying a little money to make a big point.

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  14. another fine thing:
    some code-monkey mentioned code has the media (only the forums) but if you get into public view and realy can get someone serieus angry, code will be rolfstomped.

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  15. Did anybody notice this post doesn't have the victory tag?

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  16. Obnoxious racist nullbear gets caught with pants down, acts like an asshole because he believes ppl are scared of his mates, lacks the integrity and intelligence to fight his own battles.

    Obnoxious hisec hate-filled bear gets caught blah fear CCP blah lacks intelligence blah blah POD THEM ALL CODE, POD THEM ALL. In fact podding is too good for them.

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  17. Wow... When comes the moment, the (nul)carebears finally realise, that -10 Gankers don't care about war and that you can attack them enywhere anytime anyway?

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  18. Well I am sure a CODE member would not AFK autopilot through Nulli Secunda space without interception so I understand why action had to be taken against this pilot when in CODE. space. I say this as an N3 member in nullsec,

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  19. But code. does not own that space...the Empires do...just because the buffoon of highsec claims he owns it does not actually prove or exhibit ownership...code. is a bunch of criminals in the game...we should start really treating them like it...

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    1. CODE owns the space until another group comes and pushes them out..until then the de-facto ownership is theirs.

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  20. The answer to code ganking everyone in high sec is easy. Rent space in zero zero they can't dock at your stations. Blue on blue is reason to be removed from the rental group. A nice easy way around code if they bug you. A way to beat code is to simply leave high sec.And fro freighters Use a jump freighter and always have a cyno on stand by they bump you light and jump.

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    1. And what will you do when code decides that Renter carebear need a lesson too?

      soo many renters in PL space who don't even put defence on their posses?

      This false reality of safety in this game. This game is never intended to be Safe.

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    2. when has code ever cared about low sec?

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    3. Code invade null sec unlikely code in low sec pos and use warp stabs when you light a cyno they want ganks not fights afk campings the only real worry and even then bubbles work well to pervent that. If theres a nuet in local kill it

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  21. Mr Cobalt
    CODE is the newest form of entertainment New Eden has had for years. I am lo longer bored.
    They heap great importance on their mission and themselves, Like a new religion.
    My 10 mil check is in the mail. What would happen if it bounced?
    Forever laughing at the CODE

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    1. Impotent laughter
      The only weapon of those
      Helpless before us

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  22. Maria
    How are you!
    I agree with you, I will always laugh it up when Code arrives.
    Seems like you don't like ships with 40K or more hp.
    Although i have seen Orca's explode during one of your 20+ gangs arrive.
    Nice timing and coordinating, scouting.
    One question? why waste that talent on high sec nobodys?
    Mr Cobalt

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    1. The highest virtue:
      "Help improve the lowest, and
      save EvE from itself"

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  23. Oblige me Maria.
    If the lowest start out in high sec and they get ganked then they got helped?
    I always had trouble with religion.
    Mr Cobalt

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    1. Gonna have to take a bit of a break from the haiku to explain this properly.

      Eve is a multiplayer game. At heart, it is about player interaction, whether adversarial ("I'm gonna blow that guy up") or cooperative ("Let's gang up to go blow those guys up"). In lowsec and nullsec, this is never in question; everyone is always aware that they are playing in a game with other people, and they are always prepared to interact with them, however unplanned or unexpected. Even the ratters who dock up at the first sign of neuts in station, are interacting with the roaming neuts, as they are intelligently responding to their presence. In lowsec and nullsec, nobody forgets, or possibly could forget, that they are playing a multiplayer game, and they play the game accordingly. This is good for eve, it keeps things interesting, and it encourages social behavior in the players as well. It's simply a desirable state of affairs all around.

      In highsec, since there is a higher barrier to player interaction (CONCORD), many players either forget, or deliberately ignore the fact that they are playing a multiplayer game. They may be surrounded by other people, in a station with hundreds of them or sharing a belt with a warp-in alt, and they completely ignore them. This is bad for the miners (this blog is littered with examples of what prolonged solitary highsec mining can do to a person), and bad for the game as well, since the miners miss the point of eve entirely, yet they want to exert influence in the direction of the game, and CCP has proven unfortunately responsive to whining from the carebears.

      Ganking helps someone, in that it forcefully reminds them that they are playing a multiplayer game, and not just any game, but one whose fundamental philosophy is to always enable and encourage player interactions, by force if necessary. If you minimize local, ignore chat requests, and block my evemails, I can still hunt you down and kill you. You cannot fully block the rest of the players out, no matter how much you may wish to. This reminder of the nature of the game can be an immediate shock, since it requires the person who's been ganked to restructure their expectations of what kind of game they're playing. But in the end they will either more fully engage with the eve community, which is good for them and for the game, or leave eve entirely, which is still good for the game.

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  24. Maria
    I agree with you Mining can be addictive and force one the exert greed into their decision making. Like not installing the proper modules to improve shield and armor tanks. So many kills i looked up and i can see this as being true. They are only install the modules that will get them more ore. More, more> more go go go.
    Many times a ganker not necessarily Code has tried to gank me and wound up CONCORED, with me taking their modules. I always try to have nice conversations with gankers. I am eager to learn being a newbie, doesn't mean i am dumb.
    Can't wait to meet you in game.
    Much love
    MR Cobalt

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    1. See, you're exactly the kind of miner we love to see. Engaged, prepared for the possibility of being attacked, and interacting with the other players you share the game with. Good for you, Mr Cobalt! That's exactly how eve was meant to be played.

      Given your attitude to the game and emergent gameplay, if you ever get tired of highsec, might I recommend giving Brave Newbies a try? While not a perfect fit for everyone (I recently left them to move to the ass-end of nowhere in Stain), they are wonderful toward new players, take a lot of time to teach new people and welcome them into eve, and have regular (I forget if daily, or only bidaily) teaching fleets to give people experience with different combat roles and how they can contribute in any fleet fight. Even though I no longer fly with them, I still strongly recommend them to any new player.

      And sure! Message me in-game sometime, if I'm in highsec we can have a duel!

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