Previously, on MinerBumping... Kalorned encountered unexpected resistance when he offered to sell a permit to a miner whose fail-fit Mackinaw and billion isk pod he destroyed. The miner in question, The Roak, had taken too long to respond in local. Timestamps proved this beyond all doubt. But The Roak was more interested in mourning his lost implants than in admitting his guilt.
Agents of the New Order wear almost as many different hats as the Saviour of Highsec does. Kalorned served as The Roak's executioner--and now he was The Roak's therapist.
After a brief jurisdictional dispute, The Roak started getting some additional tears out of his system. The tears always rain heaviest before the miner sees the light.
There's a big difference between the worldview of the Agent, versus the worldview of the carebear. The carebear is only concerned with money. Agents value higher things--namely, the Code. For this reason, a miner and an Agent often seem to talk past each other.
When the tears stopped falling, The Roak was ready to move on. In modern highsec, moving on means buying a permit.
No matter how angry a carebear gets, he's still capable of doing the math. It is always worth it to buy a permit. There is never a reason not to. A miner only needs to set aside his bot-aspirancy for a moment and let the numbers speak for themselves.
There were still some trouble signs, such as The Roak's unenthusiastic attitude toward Kalorned, the New Order, and the permit. He should've been thrilled to have been invited to participate in emergent gameplay for the first time in 5 years. Nevertheless, he purchased a permit. There were just a few loose ends to tie up.
You see, there was still the unresolved question about The Roak's fail-fit Mackinaw. Why did he have a Tracking Enhancer fitted? Was it intended to improve the aim of his Strip Miners?
The Roak was very confused. He believed the Tracking Enhancer improved the aim of his combat drones. He also seemed to think that if his drones were out (he was too lazy to launch them), he would have prevailed in the fight against Kalorned's two Catalyst alts. Military historians love to re-fight battles and indulge in their counterfactuals. However, The Roak's theory of how the Battle of Juddi would've unfolded is unlikely, since the CODE always wins.
If you want to learn how to fit your ship properly, five years of highsec mining doesn't get you very far.
Though he still had the whiff of bot-aspirancy about him, Roak took his first big step toward compliance with a payment of 10 million isk to Kalorned. First steps can be painful, but they're necessary. When you think about it, a carebear is a lot like a screaming baby. It wants to crawl. It sees no point in getting up and making the effort to walk. The baby's parents know better. We of the New Order are the parents and guardians of every carebear in highsec. No matter how rebellious or unruly the carebears may be, we take comfort in the knowledge that one day they'll thank us.
First Veers, Best Veers!ReplyDelete
No Veers, best VeersDelete
I wondered what Veers would do... Now I see what Veers did...ReplyDelete
Well, I'm the real Veers, and I'm pretty disappointed in these impostors. Want to steal my identity? Fine. But come on, at least use proper spelling and grammar. No one is going to believe that you are me, unless you can properly mimic my elegantly refined and sophisticated diction and syntax. If you need more examples of my brilliance feel free to consult my posts at https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4983874#post4983874ReplyDelete
where I am currently destroying Tippia (pretty incompetent) and some other goonie suicide ganker/code supporters. It's just too easy being me.
Can't tell if real....Delete
I don't remember writing thatDelete
Imposter! I am the one and only real Veers! Stop imitating me.Delete
fight me irlDelete
"But come on, at least use proper spelling"
CCP have ignored my repeated requests to outlaw bumping and other game mechanics that I do not agree with, they have left me no choice but to file lawsuits against them for the following -Delete
1. Not holding eve players hands
2. Allowing criminals and thugs like Code to be able to interact with other players in a multiplayer game
3. For not taking my threads and posts on the forums seriously even though CCP have a dedicated sticky thread regarding bumping.
4. My 4th law suit is in regards to not allowing the antiganking community permanent spots on the CSM even though none of them applied for any position.
5. Speaking to DrysonBennington the current leader of the anti gankers I want to see every new player having to perform the legendary scissor attack technique before being able to leave the rookie system so at least they can scissor attack technique Code members and stop the bullying via scissor attack technique.
I thankyou for taking the time to read this however I look forward to seeing CCP in court.
some grammar points -Delete
5. comma after DrysonBennington, anti-gankers, also this would not be grounds for a lawsuit, it is phrased differently than the first 4, and would imply that I would be suing CCP for speaking to Dryson.
thank you is two words, however is inappropriate in this context.
As for the content - deeply confused, 1 and 2 are false, 3 is inaccurate because I did post in the bumping thread, 4 is nonsensical, and 5 is well....strange......
All i have to say is...Delete
this is some pretty hot scissoring. SCISSOR ME TIMBERS!
Can someone kindly eft a mackinaw for the roak loaded with tracking enhancers, target painters, and other things that won't help him? We can send him off as an ambassador to the miners to teach how to make them all better targets.ReplyDelete
It really makes sense to have them. Consider the upside when they work or the downside if they weren't legit. It just makes sense to have a permit and follow the code - the code ALWAYS wins. Poor Roak, feel he is a slow learner and doubt he can become compliant with only being taught one time.ReplyDelete
Luckily, agents stand by to teach him as much as he needs.ReplyDelete
A bit better, but still not the real thing. You can't match true quality.ReplyDelete
I would lay off the "I'm a lawyer" thing....it only needs to be said once in a conversation to have an impact, and even then.
Oh dear, just like they taught the incursion runners. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=366607&p=3ReplyDelete
I mean come on guys....2500 ventures blown up, but not a single incursion ship, really? Loyalanon got so desperate as to declare that empty freighters he blew up in Uedama were "incursion runners." I guess CODE really is better at shooting things that can't shoot back. And no, don't buy a permit, it's just not worth anything.
"it only needs to be said once in a conversation to have an impact,"ReplyDelete
If something is worth doing once, it's worth doing on autopilot for 10 hours at a time, right veers? *cough*incursionrunningbotaspirant*cough*
incursion running is extremely challenging and dangerous, try running them on autopilot *eyeroll*ReplyDelete
What are you talking about, fellow Veers? Loyalanon blows up incursion runners *all the time*. Why just the other day, he shared a lovely incursion-running heron km in the super-secret minerbumping channel. The level of decadence and bot-aspirancy of this heron was just shocking....highsec is better for its erasure.ReplyDelete
Hell I'd buy a permit myself, except I'm too poor (having spent all my money on court challenges to CCP, James, loyalanon, minerbumping, and the government of Iceland). But if I could, I'd buy a permit in a heartbeat! Best investment in highsec.
Herons don't run incursions.ReplyDelete
Not anymore it doesn't.ReplyDelete
No thanks, I don't mine.ReplyDelete
fake accounts i seeReplyDelete
Someone stole your anonymous account? Did you file a petition?Delete
these comments got a lot better once the fake veers showed upDelete
What are you talking about, you coward-who-won't-fill-in-a-text-field-on-an-anonymous-comments-section? I, as a lawyer and ::elite:: forum poster, don't like the fake veers. Therefore they are objectively bad. Therefore your liking them (when I don't) is griefing and a violation of the EULA.Delete
OI, CCP! GOT SOMEONE ELSE YOU NEED TO PERMABAN OR I'LL SUE YOU FOR ENABLING TORTURE!
Veers: Getting really old, your endless crying over the Incursion contest. If you don't like it, don't play. What you have is people giving away billions and billions of ISK worth of assets simply in the name of creating content. You should run your own contest, and put up billions worth of prizes personally - and have it turn out to be a huge success.ReplyDelete
Once you do that, you can then criticize the hard work of other content creators. Until then, you're doing the same thing I always see you do - zero effort, zero action but very strong opinions :)
That was awesome!! Well done agent Kalorned.ReplyDelete
A perfect example of the totally psychotic worship Carebears have for isk.
The Code, winning omnipotently. \o/
Dear One of many possible Veers @ 7:51:ReplyDelete
"incursion running is extremely challenging and dangerous, try running them on autopilot *eyeroll*"
Well, try ganking illegal miners on autopilot, that's way more harder !!!!!
I can do it, naturally, but I've had years of special ops training plus I'm an engineer which trumps being a lawyer everytime!! *double eyeroll*
Oh dear I seem to have hit a never. DJ has made a very educational post here folks, lacking in his usual, but ripe for detailed analysis. Let us proceed.ReplyDelete
He initially complains about my "crying" over the failed incursion ganking contest. Notice this folks, a CODE agent, DJ, himself, complaining about someone crying! You heard it here first, the chief tear collecters are telling you - NO MORE TEARS. The guys who made a whole website devoted to humiliating people and posting their tears, who let Erotica1 run "bonus rooms" devoted to emotionally abusing people until they would break down crying, are complaining about tears! What can we possibly make of this?
The answer folks, is that they use "tears" as a generic term for communication. And when they tell you to stop (as they have begged me multiple times), it's because it ain't tears, it's mocking. It's the truth. It's pointing out the serious operation failures of a failed griefer organization, devoted to nothing more than humiliating people, posting the humiliation on their website, and getting them to quit the game. Exposing that, which is eating the, up inside, is what they call "tears."
DJ goes on to tell me not to play. Well hey, I'm the victim, it's EvE, I HAVE to play. There is no way to play Eve and turn off suicide ganking. So bro, I'm playing, it's your side that ain't showing up. And the assets - they are a crock. 10 Rattlesnakes (lolz, people still use those?), some other mediocre hulls, and 2 plex. For taking on incursion runners??? Really? What a crock. As one poster put it, "Nice idea, really, ganking can be fun... but wtf are those prizes??? Rattlesnakes, the like cheapest pirate battleships, and ishtars that get nerfed to hell (again). And lol 2 plex. Not really that much afford, goons had better prizes at hulkageddons. Even RVB Ganked has sometimes better prizes.
You all should run incursions yourself, you would make more isk then by ganking ^^"
And as another said "3. Fail Idea is Fail Idea. Come back to reality."
On a different note, DJ had promised to donate 2 plex in my name on the soundcloud - yet another unfulfilled promise.
DJ then challenges me to run my own contest - What? I lead the resistance. I'm opposed to the ganking. This contest is perfect for me, a lot of hype, big promises, drama, and no one getting ganked. DrysonBennington could do a better job!
At the end of the day this is just another example of CODE talking big, spreading promises around, and giving up when they run into real resistance. Ganking ventures? Sure. Ganking empty AFK ships? Perfect? Actually working together to take on an incursion HQ Fleet? Oh dear, I actually have an appointment with the Doctor.
DJ, if the contest ends with 0 ganks...can I fly a shuttle into a site, self destruct it, and claim all the prizes?
Yours & compliments,
nerve, not neverReplyDelete
Lacking in his usual wit, I meant to say.ReplyDelete
oh dear....post was too long to check properly, "operational" "them" and any other appropriate edits. The point though, is clear, I hope.ReplyDelete
Things are moving forward in HighSec. Just today in Couster I met a new recruit interested in joining the cause! Praise be to Holy One of HighSec, James 315!ReplyDelete
- Brother Palatine
The Order of St. James the Divine
Yup, your point is 100% clear.ReplyDelete
You create no content, do nothing, and offer snarky comments about the success or failure of someone else's contest that they put together to give something back to the community.
I'm sorry if the prizes for that contest don't meet with your high-standards. I look forward to seeing you announce a contest, donate billions of ISK in prizes to it, and create some content for the entire EVE community.
Something tells me I will never see it happen.
But, of course - you'll just totally ignore my points and repeat one of the same four things over and over again, like usual :) If you put even 50% of the energy you put into criticizing others towards actually creating content - you might be surprised with the results!
Just glad to see "The Roak" brought to justice and joining the ranks of the permit holding miner!ReplyDelete
Well done, agent Kalorned!
Well, I've created just as much content as your much hyped incursion contest. And given all the "tears" here, you must be really excited by my comments. As Loyalanon put it, you already have "vials of my tears," so OP success, eh? Just like the Alliance Tournament!ReplyDelete
I advocate for positive change of Eve on the forums, and try to get CCP to cut down on the griefing and scamming. While you blow up their ventures, ISK double them out of all their assets, and humiliate them on your website, I'm out there giving advice, helping people, and trying to get CCP to cut down on the twisted sadism in this game. I'm not interested in making contests with stupid prizes. I am interested in leading the resistance against CODE and all the other griefer groups in this game, which I happen to be doing quite well.
"I post a bunch on the fourms" is not quite on the same level as running a community driven event that celebrates the concept of emergent gameplay.ReplyDelete
Good try though.
rofl @ "Twisted sadism." - you are either fail trolling, or really having a hard time seperating a video game from reality. I worry that the latter is true :(
Posting on the forums is what gets CCP to change mechanics, which is what this game needs. Trying to stop ganks in Uedama is...well....boring.ReplyDelete
And I guess Erortica1 getting banned by CCP for real life harrassment for his "bonus rooms" was also just a video game and not reality? Or the people who spend months mining for assets that you blow up in an instant? Hint - their anger isn't virtual - it's all too real - and you are preying on it. Just take a look at how pissed off your allies in the Eve Forums got when I challenged them, over mechanics in a video game! Tippia was boiling over. That this is a video game is no excuse to cause people real life emotional grief, as erotica1 learned, and as hopefully you, Loyalanon, and the rest of your immature griefer buddies will as well.
Too many Veers here. I can't even be bothered reading any of the comments posted by "them" anymore, especially the long winded, sanctimonious, piles of BS.ReplyDelete
Hey Veers... you still hanging around Frarn?
I even kept this comment short enough for you to understand, buddy.Delete
I am so, soooooo smart. You're not smart, because you're not me. And I'm smart! Smart smart lawyer smart. You'd better not disagree with me again buddy, or I'll pull out the big guns and call you an idiot! And from a lawyer (which is what I am), that's legally binding. That's how smart I am!Delete
Oh don't get me wrong. It's easy to understand... just way too boring.ReplyDelete
I'll look you up if I'm on tonight.
Cool....try to bring a real ship, 3 bil +, I'm tired of seeing the CODE clowns in cheap ghetto ships.Delete
OK, as you can see from the above DJ is being a clown, too cowardly to show up. Can you bring a vindicator. You are one of the only brave CODE agents left, the rest are cowards.Delete
And again, you go on a tangent and repeat the same tired four things you repeat over and over.ReplyDelete
You don't create content, Veers. Aside from a bunch of low value "who cares" kills in Providence, you literally bring nothing to EVE with the exception of being wrong on the forums to the delight of others who have any clue what they are talking about.
Quite frankly, it's getting rather boring and old - and if you are unable to have an adult conversation and actually respond to any of the points brought up in my replies.... Then I really don't have any desire to deal with you.
You lose, sir. Good day.
Uh - huh. Trust me, I didn't want to deal with a clown like you either. But I'm not the one who declared ownership over highsec and demanded that everyone buy a permit. You came to me and tried to extort 10 mil from me, you threatened, and continue to threaten me, and put me on the front page of your website. So it's game on bro.ReplyDelete
My content is vastly superior to yours. I don't gank and grief helpless people in highsec, and then expose them to humiliation on websites and in "bonus rooms." And I creamed your clown allies on the forums, Tippia the idiot may never recover.
Your points were all refuted. And trust me, I would love to have no further communication with you, Loyalanon, James 315, and the rest of the gang. And you can make that happen. Stop demanding permits, stop ganking, stop claiming ownership of highsec, disband CODE, distribute remaining funds back to investors, and call it a day. Then we will not have any further interaction.
Barring that, I will continue to call out griefers in the appropriate venue, and thankfully not all your agents are as cowardly as yourself. Colonel Falkenberg, in a below post, would like to spend time with me. I find him a lot more reasonable and pleasant than I find you!
You lose, sir. Good day.
And you were really polite to him too.ReplyDelete
"I even kept this comment short enough for you to understand, buddy."
The reality is - you often engage in personal attacks against others, are unable to separate a video game from reality, and even use phrases like "helpless people in high-sec" and "humiliation on websites".
And no, you did not refute a single point I made. Your simply engage in more personal attacks in a very rude way, and repeated the same few tired catch phrases yet again.
If you want to discuss things, I am fine with that. I enjoy communicating with other gamers. However, I refuse to bother as long as you are refering to others as "clowns" and "idiots". I'm better then that.
Oh, how rich....I engage in personal attacks? That is epic bro? Am I the one who called people "bot-aspirants,' extorted them for money, or tried to blow them up? Have you heard Loyalanon talk recently? And who is always claiming they got tears from me? As for the good Col., he has been in the habit of threatening me, and was dealt with appropriately. Plus he called my words "sanctimonious, piles of BS." Here is a hint, if you want people to be nice to YOU, don't start out by extorting/threatening THEM. But again, you are just trolling, because you play this game the exact same way erotica1 does, as a sadistic attempt to rile up and prey on peoples' real life emotions.ReplyDelete
And ya, the CODE supported "bonus room" was adjudged to be real life harassment, leading to the permaban of erotica1, by CCP, not by Veers (and for the record I opposed that, and think erotica1 should be reinstated). And you do humiliate people on the website. Once again, I'm happy to cease further communication with you (it would be a pleasure). Just admit that you don't own highsec, stop demanding that we pay for permits, disband CODE, and go home.
Confirming that Veers actually thinks there's something wrong with extortion, explosions, piracy, and other such actions in EVE online.ReplyDelete
Wrong game, bro. Check out "World Of Warcraft" or "Hello Kitty Online" - it's pretty much all puppies and kittens and rainbows over there.
And of course we own highsec, and you really should remember a permit when operating in New Order sov space :-)
No but there is something wrong with committing real life harassment under the EULA, which is what got CODE supporter erotica1 permabanned. And there is nothing wrong with calling people "idiot" and "clown' in Eve Online, I tend to believe that people do far worse.ReplyDelete
And idiot, you can stuff your permit. I will continue to oppose your attempts to harm people in the game, rile them up emotionally, record on chat/coms, and post to the website for your own twisted and sadistic pleasure. Put me on the opponents list bro, real life emotional abuse isn't cool.
I respectfully challenge you to come up with a catchy website domain name and eye-catching design. Since you are a lawyer, you can probably even hire some of this out to make really nice. Create a document stating your goals and beliefs. Rally rebels to join you. Scam them all and take your rightful place next to us at James' table. Well, the last part just came to me, but I like it.
But wait, that would require Veers to do something other then post things on our forum, which as he has stated - totally qualifies him as a content creator on the same level as James 315 :)Delete
It's adorable, really.
I wouldn't get the fun of DJ, tear collector extraordinaire whining that "Veers: Getting really old, your endless crying over the Incursion contest. If you don't like it, don't play. What you have is people giving away billions and billions of ISK worth of assets simply in the name of creating content."Delete
And anyhow - to be clear. I'm not looking to respond to CODE with "emergent gameplay." I'm not looking to join the AG's and foil ganks in Uedama. I think that CODE is exploiting the bumping mechanic, and that people with -10 sec status should need to spend 12 hours ratting in low/null to bring up sec status before they can gank. Trying to fight back with content just lets CCP put off fixing these broken mechanics. I'd prefer if things actually got worse, so that we could convince CCP to intervene and fix them for good. Thus, my role consists of continuing to militate for change in the appropriate forums.
And what's most adorable is DJ leading Code to victory in the Alliance Tournament and running such a great Incursion Ganking Contest. Best Diplomat Ever! Eat your hat Capt Starfox. And he may be an idiot, but at least he is our idiot :)
"CCP considers the act of bumping a normal game mechanic, and does not class the bumping of another player’s ship as an exploit."Delete
You can call it an exploit of game mechanics as many times as you want, over and over, as loudly and as often as you want - but that will not change reality.
And that's what I'm trying to change, because it makes no sense, and is being used by CODE to pin freighters down for multiple waves of ganks while CONCORD sits by and does nothing. So I will continue to advocate for changes to bumping and faction police spawn time, to rebalance suicide ganking in highsec, and impede CODE from blowing up empty ships just to make people cry.Delete
Have you considered Ero's offer to have drinks? You can cry on her shoulder. I'm a bit jelly you got that offer. Brb, gotta take care of something...Delete
I'd rather hang out with Col. Falkenberg, he has a cooler name, but I think he is going to stand me up again :(Delete
8 freighters down in Uedama already today, and someone thinks the game mechanics aren't broken?
They should have bought a permit!Delete
Perhaps DJ Entropy should buy a permit to write these blog articles, and to post in the comments. We should also lump Erotica 1, Wolf Soprano, and a few others.Delete
Oh, you guys didn't know? James 315 doesn't write this blog, DJ does. Admitted from his own mouth in chat. That is of course assuming that DJ isn't James.
Not sure who writes the blog, it definitely has gone down hill since the early days. It used to be much more sympathetic, one man struggling against the miners and bots. Now it's just carnage and bloodshed. Kind of doubt DJ is James 315 though. For all his many faults, James is a seriously tough dude, with a take no prisoners attitude. DJ, while smart, is kind of effeminate and prickly, crying because I called him an "idiot." I can assure you that James (or even his stooge Loyalanon) would not sit here crying about something like that. Man up a bit.Delete
Color me "surprised" if it turned out that Erotica 1, DJ Entropy and James 315 were the same person all along. That would make my multiple personalities conflict look mild by comparison.Delete
I counted 11 freighters and 1 jump freighter gone, with most of them empty. Does that still sound like fun and educational? Admit it what you know in your hearts, it's griefing, plain and simple... like you CODE guys in general. I think this is a case of mass hysteria where single individuals loose their ability to think for themselves and go with the crowd. In that crowd, they feel accepted, safe and warm, even going so far as to deny the fact that they are just simple bullies. I guess you can call that content if you stretch the term.
And Erotica 1 can drink his drinks alone, from the content he creates in-game, he doesn't come out as fun person to hang around with.
You guessed it, 4:51 AM isn't me. but semi-intelligent comment still..Delete
it was meDelete
"8 freighters down in Uedama already today, and someone thinks the game mechanics aren't broken?"
So, in your opinion a group of over twenty players working together should not be able to take down a freighter?
You can continue to "to advocate for changes to bumping and faction police spawn time, to rebalance suicide ganking in highsec" - you've been super successful so far and have been met with some form of actual support by CCP, right?
Oh, wait, no. You just got Falcon punched and told to HTFU. Sorry I got the two confused :)
@ The other Veers @ 4:51AM
"DJ, while smart, is kind of effeminate and prickly"
Totally going in my bio, thanks for the lol :)
Logs and screencaps or it never happened.
I never claimed to be the alt of anyone in game (except the alt of my all powerful super Goonswarm main - who if you ever saw on grid would cause your face to melt), it should be obvious to anyone that my writing style and the writing style of James 315 are about as night as day different as you can get.
I like to think of myself as semi-crafty, smart, and pretty good at turning a phrase - but I am no where on the level of the 315.
Really? So you deny getting shit-faced drunk and confessing your soul to Gorila Vengaza about 3 nights ago?Delete
Ok, I'll ask him to post the logs then.
Please do, butthurt miner. Until then, hopefully you'll forgive us for not taking your ::conspiracy:: seriously.Delete
I was out and about Veers with my main. Hung out in Frarn for a bit before hoping into a Frig and heading over to Uedama to check the fireworks out. I was there for the last 2 ganks... Cops & Concord all over the place. Quite the party!ReplyDelete
Hell, I even had someone take a potshot at me as I cruised by. Not sure who pulled the trigger, but no damage done... and I don't take it personally, shit was going down and there was a bunch of "white knights" with GV whoring in on concord kills.
Unfortunately the corp & alliance I'm part of don't approve of CODE... can't imagine why, ;) but I'm sure they would not approve of me joining the fun.
That's what the Colonel is for... but he is very young and can't fly shit and sometime you just got to fly what you want to fly.
You should have given me a ring. I got bored and went to kill Goons. Was a GF.ReplyDelete
I killed 13 freighters and 2 jump freighters today. Why? Because I can.ReplyDelete
The Code ALWAYS Wins!!!!!!!!!!
Not me at 5:12 AM, I don't get bored that easily ;)ReplyDelete
Color me "surprised" if it turned out that Erotica 1, James 315 and DJ Entropy turned out to be the same person in the end. They have the same goals and frankly sometimes sound the same.
11 freighters and 2 jump freighters so far.... most of them empty while ganked. I suppose if you stretch the term, you can call this "creating content" or even educational. I call it lazy and an excuse to generate killmails.... but that's something we already know.
Erotica 1, thanks for the invite, but you don't seem like the kinda guy I would like to hang out with, no offence.
Veers let me know when you get on my level bro.Delete
Hope I never stoop down to your level. Your own BS has brought you low.Delete
ok the last 2 comments were not from me (5:12 am was me - check my killboard)....I am aware of your campaign of carnage and have raised it on the forums. Exploiting bumping and the fact that CCP does not adequately address -10 chars, while fun, is not impressive. I will continue to oppose your war against new players, and press for changes to the game mechanics to curtail your efforts.Delete
And imposterbros - come on - stop being retarded. Find someone else to pretend to be...you guys are way below my level.
and to 6:25 am - that was a lame effort - you sound like a goody two shoes. And to 6:32 am I don't normally use the term "BS"Delete
Oh, and it turns out that while Loyalanon was busy blowing up empty freighters that can't shoot back, and exploiting game mechanics, I actually managed to take out one of the main CEO's in TEST. Just saying. https://zkillboard.com/kill/41061372/Delete
Lol! What the fack does "goody two shoes" even mean. Hello!! They called from the 70' and asked if you could give them some good phrases to use.Delete
6:47 AM wasn't me, try and try again.Delete
What I propose to you loyalanon is, that instead of taking the quantity over quality approach you guys love, take the time to develop some character. It's not the methods you use, it's the quality of character that shines through... in as in you case.. lack of quality.
7:34 AM is not me. Notice the rage induced spelling mistakes. And obviously, It wasn't me at 7:24 AM or 7:28 AM. Give it a rest.Delete
7:34 and 7:35 both frauds...and idiots....probably New Order agents.....and anonbro, "goody two shoes" is a legit american expression from the 90s, k?Delete
7:24 was me - check my killboard.Delete
Nice try at 7:39 AM. Calling others by names is a valid method for CODE agents.... is can almost see you smirking there loyalanon.... or any of you anons out there. And using American expressions in an internationally flavored blog like this would only prove that I was as narrow minded and ignorant as you are NObodies. Nice try tough ;)Delete
Dear copycat at 7:45 AM, I would like to respond at your level, by I still have a spine and can't bend that low.Delete
Also.... why wouldn't I use american expressions in an american game. Think about it while you gank those empty freighters.
7:56 AM did me a favor by exposing himself with that comment. Nice try tough ;)Delete
Is this your idea of a monologue 7:57 AM, I can barely keep up with you while you use my name while revealing your own stupidity. Too much free time at your mom's basement, not enough nachos?Delete
Speaking of monologue, have you CODE-fellows given any thought about running a PR-firm? The way you claimed Victory-forever after AT is a sight to behold and a gag to choke on.
/me gets popcornDelete
Someone needs to snag http://veerstears.com and keep it updated with nothing but Veers arguing with himself.
Veers, you're cracking up man.... Why do you feel the need to argue with yourself?
Busted!! Why WOULD anyone think it was me 7:28 AM. Do try and use your OWN in-game name next time.ReplyDelete
7:28 was an anonymous poster...Delete
Im Veers and my farts smell good, mmmmmmmm.Delete
Oh, dear!! Maybe you really should register that name of yours at google before this gets any worse. I enjoy our talks and would not wan't to misunderstand your intentions.Delete
7:28 was an anonymous poster...Delete
No shit Sherlock :D
anyone who knows me can confirm that I am never nice, friendly, and totally chill to my fellow EVE players - laughing my ass off @ "real life emotional abuse".
Veers, shooting internet spaceships is not emotional abuse, recording a teamspeak session is not emotional abuse - and you do a huge and pretty fucked up thing to all victims of actual RL abuse when you try to compare internet spaceships to actual RL abuse.
Your lack of imagination and ability to even faintly comprehend the meta bore me. You just spew forth the same tired points over and over - is it any wonder no one takes you seriously?
But, keep it going. Keep throwing out personal insults at others who have a different play style (one that involves winning) while crying for the poor innocent spaceships that explode. We'll be right here, still winning, as always.
How's your well organized campaign to get CCP to alter basic game mechanics to make you happy going? You guys recovered from the last CCP Falcon smackdown yet?
Keep it up. You'll get on DrysonBennington's level soon, where the ISD/GM just lock any thread he creates or remove his posts in under a hour :)
Heh, somehow you code-monkeys think this is a smart reply to veers? lolReplyDelete
its not, it shows how childish underdeveloped your social behavior is.
codies failed BIG TIME on the AT.
that time too codies quit and went into hiding like little childen.
Awww, someone else has a sad over our total dominating victory in the AT, and our passing the 6 trillion ISK in kills while enforcing the law of high-sec.Delete
I wonder how "Random anonymous blog poster too afraid to post with his main at 9:20am"'s team did in the tournament, and how his killboard looks. Something tells me we may find it lacking.
That being said, he should really remember a permit when operating in New Order sov space.
You are a funny man DJ Entropy. Leaving the table before your turn is not winning, it's giving up or forfeiting the game. If your only standard is the ISK value of the kills, then even I admit, you are winning in high-sec. Achievement should be given to the CODE for killing the most defenseless targets.Delete
Stop using my identity and making my point for me, I can do it myself, thank you very much.Delete
*sigh* Not me at 9:57 or 9:59. Best effort so far... but quite up to par, sorry trolls.Delete
What alliance did you work with during this or other AT events? :)
*doublesigh* Not me at 10:04, though it was me at 9:59. Getting better, trolls.Delete
and i wonder who will believe your lies about "so much isk earned during" and "killed AT freighter..."? Nobody aside the code-monkeys themself!ReplyDelete
yes, for a clowns troupe you really lack nothing. funny that all of that 6 trillion ISK that you say theres just 10 Billion in your treasury!
When i am mininig in highsec your guys didn't ask me for a permit, they didn't shoot me either.
what you really lack?
Brains i would say. Social competence i would say.
You're confusing the CODE. alliance with the New Order. It's a common mistake.Delete
The New Order treasury is sitting somewhere around 10 billion ISK ready to give to brave agents. The CODE. alliance treasury != The New Order. It's tricky to understand.
Here's a fun way to keep it straight in your head. The CODE. Alliance is one of the largest supporters of the New Order, but it is not the New Order itself. Please read the words of the Savior of high-sec if you are still a bit confused :)
"The New Order transcends corporations, alliances, and coalitions. There's no membership application or skill requirement to join. Everyone in EVE who takes any action to support our cause is an Agent of the New Order. "
So the "mighty" somewhat alliance with supporters didn't have 12 able fighters, let alone 12 Elite PvPlers to fight in the AT?Delete
of course there are some miners supproting the code, but they don't dare to associate openly to CODE. more. Cowards to you own accord. i am sure there are POSes supporting CODE. do they associate? of course not, your miners and your POSes would be killed faster than one can type "CODE".
Liars, hippocrites and Cowards, that is what codies are.
PS no i will not read the code again, since it is pure sh?t.
Way to totally bypass the part where you were totally wrong, rant on about the AT, and rage :) 3/10 for effort :)Delete
so a codie says i am wrong on the AT events?Delete
sure, everyone (codies excepted) will believe this ..NOT
bypass? what about you "tricky" ISK stuff?
So before ranting more about cowards, please name some stations of yours.
We could create some content i think.
First step is to get a little bit of ISK, then try this thing called "Location agents."
Shoot me a message in game if you need help with the relevant mechanics.
Locationagents are known and Standing is fine. ISK are there!Delete
Where are the names of the stations?
Use the agent and find out. I'm not doing your work for you ;)Delete
Then, sit outside the station and complain about game mechanics when I instawarp/dock right past you :P
instawarp/dock from/to a destroyed POS?Delete
Since you retards, didn't even appear on time and without short (or long) notice you did NOT forfeit, you got KICKED and BANNED forever!ReplyDelete
In what kind of language, this is a "total dominating victory"?
is it in "total brain-damage-speak"?
Don't be angry, one day you might win too :)Delete
i am not angry!
(me not mad bro)
why should i be?
thats justs wet dreams of you!
Since you are a recogniced official laughing stock, i just love to rub the laughter into your faces. (still laughing)
"total dominating victory" for a "kick-ban" hilarious! (but not true)
To old saying "Arguing with stupid people is like playing chess with a pigeon." applies to New Order very well. No matter what the outcome is, the New Order is just going to knock all the pieces over, crap on the board, and strut around as if victorious.Delete
i have to write that down!
Anon @ 11:28AMDelete
He's just plagiarizing a clever Amazon review from 2005 and not giving any credit in a effort to seem relevant :P If you were curious, the original quote is:
"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon — it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." - 2005, S. D. Weitzenhoffer.
Go back to arguing with yourself on the internet and whining on the forms about "exploits", Veers - ripping off the words of those with more wit then you is a all time low.
You are right DJ, but then again why wouldn't you be. New Order is an expert at taking credit for things they did not do, like winning Alliance Tournaments.Delete
"plagiarizing" its getting better and better.Delete
You yourself (J315) steals from everywhere and now YOU want to point at others for "plagiarizing"...
and of course since you are lost, you want to send the opponent away.
Veers, here's a pro tip. Create a Google account and use that to post with. That way there is no doubt about who it is.Delete
You wanna talk about killboards?
proved and acknowledged COWARDS (--> AT) are not in the position to doubt other players.
No doubt needed, we just use a mixture of faith in the savior, anti-matter, and void. It's SUPER EFFECTIVE :)Delete
Nitpicking: its written "farts of" not "faith in" and its nature is a very numbing narcotic, i am sure!Delete
besides only having barges and mining frigattes dosn't make up a good killboard. it shows just how lame you are!
Confirmed we have never shot anything but "barges and mining frigattes" and all the CREST verified kills showing otherwise are part of an elaborate hoax by our Soonswarm overlords :PDelete
whatever, what you don't have is a respectable killboard, since you are carebears griefing other carebears.Delete
Confirming the only reason I play EVE is the gain the love and respect of "Random Anonymous blog poster @ 11:30AM" - i'll try harder for you :PDelete
Who is talking about love in EvE? Only you!Delete
But something that you really really want, is respect. Or why exactly are you mumbling about killboards if not for respect?
It's quite obvious that DJ is not getting any respect or love here, at home, in-game, or on other message boards. Too bad we can't do everyone a favor and pull his internet connection. So Dick Job, why don't you do the Internet a favor and cancel your ISP subscription. The Internet will be a much better place without you.Delete
And there is no need to confirm what we already know.
I don't have the most to add here, DJEntropy is doing fine playing with Ripard Teg....er, Veers Belvar on his own. But there is one thing I'd like to point out.ReplyDelete
"My content is vastly superior to yours....And I creamed your clown allies on the forums,"
Veers, do you understand that victory in a public forum, on a public matter, can't be self-declared? Pretty much definitionally, the value of your contributions is judged by the community you are trying to contribute to. And no matter how thoroughly you dislocate your arm trying to pat yourself on the back, we (the eve community) are by and large unimpressed by you. We've seen self-congratulatory, do-nothing windbags like you before. We'll keep on seeing them, after you quit in a huff because neither ccp nor the eve community bow to your "superior logic" and "crushing rhetoric".
You're free to say whatever you want of course. And, if it weren't so repetitive, I'd enjoy you saying it. But it's like you don't understand, at the most basic level, that winning arguments is a matter of what the audience thinks, not how smug you felt about the clever things you thought you said.
So... did that Moomoo milk dude end up giving Jerry Rin those 2 plex for "pvp" lessons? LOL!ReplyDelete
LOL Veers thinks he won on the EVE-O forums? He must work at being so delusional...that level can't come naturally.ReplyDelete
Consolidated response to DJ & Maria - This argument has gotten kind of stale, only slightly more entertaining than destroying Tippia the idiot, and watching her break down and call every second statement of mind a "lie."ReplyDelete
DJ - CODE is a troll organization. Your CODE is a made up sham. Your business operates at a loss, with no hope on making a profit. Your only goal is tears (which you call "winning.") You blow up empty ships to make people cry, record the convo on chat/coms, and post to your website to humiliate them. It is very, very close to the same real life harassment that took place in the "bonus rooms." It's not a playstyle, it's just an attempt to prey on people who are emotionally vulnerable. As for "winning," you continue to lie and claim you won the AT, continue to hype up your failed incursion contest, and continue to pretend like your fictional CODE is justification for hurting new players and driving them from the game. Good luck dude.
Maria - Victory on the forums is not determined by the opinion of the CODE stooges and idiots who hang out there. To see them reduced to calling every second word of mine a "lie," says all that you need to know. Your supporters are a joke, CODE is a joke, and this game will eventually be fixed by CCP to curtail the CODE exploits, and relegate you to the trashbin of history.
OMG, are you real ?Delete
You are a champion, a world class champion !
"this game will eventually be fixed by CCP to curtail the CODE exploits,"Delete
And if it's not? How long will you give CCP to see the light and do what you tell them to, before you give up and quit in a huff?
Why would I quit? I'm not xploding. I don't haul and I don't mine. And the CODE Incursion gank contest is the butt of jokes rather than a real threat. What I will not do is come to Uedama and try to help the AG's stop ganks that result from broken game mechanics, because that is a waste of my valuable time. Rather, I will continue to call CODE out on the forums, militate for change, and hope that CCP sees the light. As for quitting in a huff, I see no reason to.Delete
"Rather, I will continue to call CODE out on the forums, militate for change, and hope that CCP sees the light."Delete
So you intend to just do this...forever? Mine incursions, bitch on forums, and pat yourself on the back over how thoroughly you "destroyed" someone on eve-o. That's all you want from your life in eve?
How on earth did you get through law school with those kinds of low aspirations and an inability to learn from experience?
I need to ask, and I'm not trying to troll. Do you really think you will accomplish anything? Truly? CCP has weighed in on this and given their answer. All the whining and crying has done nothing. CODE continues on as is and gains more pilots and corps daily it seems.Delete
Yes there is some who fight and try to save pilots from their own stupidity, and that's a good thing (more content and action), but at the end of the day it's a drop in the bucket.
The only real fight and it's not really one is on the blogs and forums, and that means little... there is very little discussion, but the pages are filled with trolls, insults, butthurt, and tears. And the value of that? Absolutely nothing. Insults over the internet are the most meaningless. Anyone who get's "upset" from some Anon's trolling and insult, I would suggest has more issues going on than just this game.
So... at the end of the day, do you really feel like your DOING something? or are you just bored, looking for content and cheap laughs and that's why you post.
I definitely hope to accomplish something. CCP, like any business organization, is responsive to the demands of its customers. When those customers lose ships and get angry, and specifically when they complain about it publicly on the Eve Forums, CCP looks for ways to make them happy. Of course it also wants to keep its other customers, the gankers, happy as well. So it's kind of an elaborate balancing it, and a key part of it is figuring out who is currently unhappy, and how deep that unhappiness goes.Delete
CCP has in fact made significant changes to the game vis-a-vis ganking, most recently culminating in the latest freighter changes, which allowed freighters to fit bulkheads and significant boost their ehp. To paraphrase New Order Agent Ima Wreckyou on the Eve Forums, "CCP has been continuously nerfing suicide ganking for the last 11 years."
The Eve Forums are more than just a tear and whine fest - the CCP Devs read them and respond to them. Erotica1's permaban resulted from a forum post by Ripard Teg, which forced CCP's hand. Are they kind of pathetic? Sure. But they carry a lot more weight than than you are giving them credit for.
Currently, due to the drama in the incursion communities, I find myself with a lot of free time. I've been running missions and killing Goonz, but I've also used some of the time to advocate for positive changes in the game, and I happen to enjoy doing that, and in doing so to make the new player experience better (as opposed to CODE ganking 3 day old players in their Ventures).
Oh and Maria- try to chill a bit. You sound rather pissed off. One important thing about this game is that I don't get emotional. I try to play, have fun, and help other players. And yes, between incursions, low-sec roams, missions, and the forums, I'm actually really enjoying Eve. Are you?
The naked truth.
"One important thing about this game is that I don't get emotional."Delete
Oh, my sides.
Well, keep on trucking then Veers. I get the feeling I'll be ignoring you more and more though. You were briefly funny, but then your lawyering really started getting in the way of your entertainment value. We've tried interacting with you, and engaging you in conversation. But you're not interested in that; you're interested in giving the appearance of conversation, while actually directing all "the idiots" to the conclusion you want them to reach. Guess it comes with the profession; the other lawyer I knew was the same way. It makes you repetitive, and unproductive to talk with.
CCP does respond to carebear whining, you're right. Sad, but true. But after Falcon's recent posts, it seems clear that more and more they're coming around to our way of thinking. If you want to see this as a conflict of ideas, the Code and pro-interaction ideologies are beating the whining and anti-interaction ones. So...have fun filling the forums with your tears, veers. It's what they're there for. And for ccp, you're now win-win. Either you keep on paying them for the privilege of whining which they'll wholly ignore...or you stop paying and shitting up their forums.
Oh dear, an unhappy customer :(Delete
Hopefully hey will go with option number 3, changing the game to make it better for new players and worse for griefers like you. And buddy, I pay with Plex, not $$$. Feel free to ignore me from now on, not like you have anything useful to say anyway, "tear collector."
Oh hey, you do have a use! You make plex worth more for the people who buy it. Nice to know you do contribute something, however small.Delete
....also, come to think of it, I'm starting to have doubts that you're employed. You run incursions for 10-hour stretches at a time. You're on this website, updating the comments, literally every 10 minutes, 8+ hours a day. You're also active on other forums I don't bother checking. This (whining about ccp and "destroying" people in "debate") seems like it takes up the entirety of your time. So...calling bullshit on your being a lawyer. Or did you mean that you *were* a lawyer?
And as for "interacting," as has been stated before, and as is obvious, the CODE interaction with me was solely to try and get someone riled up about their "incursion permit" nonsense. Since, as always, I retained my cool and made logical arguments, the soundcloud failed to serve its purpose, did not take off, and just made you guys look like a bunch of griefer cretins. Don't think that everyone is as as stupid as the emotionally vulnerable people that you target.Delete
And great job on the incursion gank campaign *eyeroll*
Well, I am a lawyer, I am financially comfortable, and I don't need to work very much, and that's all you are going to know :) But do keep raging, it is so amusing.Delete
"as always, I retained my cool"Delete
"you guys look like a bunch of griefer cretins"
Oh, Veers. Never change.
The truth hurts. You messed with the wrong guy. But do keep trying.Delete
I'm good, thanks.Delete
Sure doesn't sound like it - would you like the Butthurt form?Delete
"But you're not interested in that; you're interested in giving the appearance of conversation, while actually directing all "the idiots" to the conclusion you want them to reach. Guess it comes with the profession; the other lawyer I knew was the same way. It makes you repetitive, and unproductive to talk with."
yesyes, very angry
Veers is the Mittani. Those are almost the exact same words Mittens used to describe himself.Delete
Well now I'm pissed. I just got home from court. I was in judge's chambers along with the other attorney. We were asked to wait while the judge stopped laughing (he was reading minerbumping.com). I spoke too soon and got fined for being in comtempt of court. VERY FUNNY James, or shall I call you Your Honour? Yeah, I saw the edit button on your screen. If you don't fix this, I'm going to give you a piece of my mind tomorrow. Right now I'm going to grab a stiff drink and lie down. Fuck you all!Delete
*** 100% Approved by Veers Belvar ***Delete
© Copyright - Veers Belvar
Veers' tears are really the very BEST tears. Never laughed so hard in my life. This has to be the funniest thread EVER!ReplyDelete
Yes Anonymous blogger at 4:39 pm afraid to post with his in game name, DJ was laughing real hard, in a whiny voice, when he wrote the blow.Delete
"Veers: Getting really old, your endless crying over the Incursion contest. If you don't like it, don't play. What you have is people giving away billions and billions of ISK worth of assets simply in the name of creating content. You should run your own contest, and put up billions worth of prizes personally - and have it turn out to be a huge success.
Once you do that, you can then criticize the hard work of other content creators. Until then, you're doing the same thing I always see you do - zero effort, zero action but very strong opinions :)"
So the problem is, even funny jokes stop being funny after they've been repeated 50+ times. That's why we ask you to cry about different things, if possible. Having you cry about our turning our leet-pvp guns on incursion runners was funny the first time. Having you actively promoting the thing you want to fail was funny...the first time. After a while, it's just gotten old. Which is why we're asking you to mix it up a little.Delete
We have a great symbiotic relationship going on here veers. You give us things to laugh about, and we pay attention to you. All we're asking is that you uphold your end of it: keep being funny! And for that, we require fresh and interesting tears. The same old, same old is just boring, and if you bore us enough, we'll stop paying attention to you. And who even knows what you'd feel the need to get up to then, if you lost your audience. Let's all avoid that. Help us help you avoid the horrible fate of not having our attention, veers. Just switch up the repertoire now and again.
Anonymous blogger at [time] who is *totally* afraid to post with his ingame name.
Lolz, I never "cried" about incursion threats because (1) they were laughable and (2) they demonstrated what a joke your own Code is. And it seems that my "active promotion" has not lead to dead incursion runners, just a failed contest and endless excuses. So who is "crying" now. I've never been harmed, so why would I cry? I think you, and your CODE buddies, suffer from some serious self-delusion. See a shrink.Delete
Veers (at 5pm sharp) who is *totally not* afraid to post with his in game name.
The Veers at 5:19 is not me. I'm the real Veers Belvar. Nice try though trolls.Delete
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Confirming that the real and only one Veers writes "actively".Delete
To the troll @5:29Delete
Well put, thank you. Everyone really can figure out who is really me, because I am so much more intelligent than all you idiots. Which is they'll know that this is really me, and not you, who are not me. See? It's so obvious.
Nice try loyalanon.
You win Veers. Your mastery of words has convinced me to stop blapping carebears and join you. Together we will defeet the New Order. Where do I sine up?ReplyDelete
Just go there, make an account, and post repeatedly about how the New Order are all gankers and that's illegal harassment torture and genital mutilation. Gotta post 20+ times a day for it to really have an effect though. And try not to ever actually engage what people say, it only encourages them to interact with you and we're trying to direct, not interact. So whatever you do, stick to the same short list of talking points, just rephrase them slightly different in each post.
Godspeed, young padawan.
Will you help me make 20 accounts for the cause? I'm short on isk. Send 20 PLEX to George H Wilson along with your buddy code and I can support your cause for 51 days for free.ReplyDelete
Sure thing! I'm totally willing to give up my own money for something I believe in. Just message me in-game about it! I'm kinda busy fighting the good fight on the forums though, so you may need to send me a few mails to catch my attention. 30 or so oughta do the trick. But then, I did configure my incursion-running bot to block things it thinks are spam....so if it accidentally blocks you, no worries bro, just mail me from alts or get your friends to do it. Eventually, I'll see the mails, and you'll get your 20 plex. That's a Veers Belvar promise.ReplyDelete
Play the game instead of crying about the way others play the game.
PS - if I was gonna mock you on the comments section of minerbumping I'll always post under my own name.
Anyway I have game mechanics to exploit :)
Check my killboard from last night. Test Corp CEO killed, and multiple goons down. OP success.Delete
And the posts referencing you were from the trolls,not from me. I'm busy taking on Maria, DJ, and the good colonel, not obsessing over you.
...your comment at 5:53, among many, many, *many* others accusing people of being alts of loyalanon, suggests otherwise.Delete
Presumably the comment by you pretending to be me, and now referencing as an anonymous user? Keep trying, bro.Delete
Just trying to help man, what's your problem?ReplyDelete
Just whatever you do, don't send billions to Scooter McCabe. He's probably the one person who could bring down the New Order if you met his price.ReplyDelete
anon@6:27, what do you mean? I'm trying to help you help me! But since you're not posting with your in-game name, I need you to contact me through the game client. I just need to know who to give the plex my bot earns to, that's all!ReplyDelete
I'm forming a new resistance movement, A Lawyer Against Tyranny. I'd appreciate as much isk as you can spare to defeat the New Order because this is going to take a lot of forum alts. Speaking of, please send as much isk as you can to my alt, Currin Trading, whom I will use to keep funds separate.ReplyDelete
Together, we can DEFEAT THE NEW ORDER!!!
Click my name for our fight song.
You really need to get help. Why are New Order agents so immature?Delete
I just picked out a perfect name for your thing as well as a perfect theme song (Grave Digger- Silent Revolution). Now run with it!Delete
Can we please record Veers singing this on comms? PLEASE......Delete
I just realized James 315 is really CCP Falcon. Look at the timestamps, it's icelandic time!ReplyDelete