The New Order war machine never runs out of fuel--thanks to readers like you!
Hrothgar Nilsson threw down the gauntlet this week, bountying the biggest multiboxers of highsec. In addition, Hrothgar made several batches of share purchases, buying 1,799 shares in all. A smart move, as you can never own too many New Order shares. Hrothgar sent us over the 605 and 606 billion isk marks, which earned him a Double Supreme Protector's Tip of the Hat™.
The isk continues to flow into the wallets of gankers; tears flow from the carebears who refuse the Code's wisdom.
Saturday, June 6, 2015
Friday, June 5, 2015
Spy vs. Cry
The New Order doesn't cut and run. Our mission is to improve the lives of all those who reside in highsec. When our Agents take corrective action against a carebear, they'll do follow-up visits as needed. Less known is the fact that it's the carebears themselves who frequently contact us. This shouldn't be any great surprise; our Agents are natural mentors, and their awesome power commands respect.
Lisanna struss was the subject of punitive action by our Agents many moons ago. What, you don't remember Lisanna struss?
After Lisanna struss lost his ship, his older sister contacted our Agents for an extended TeamSpeak conference. Lisanna himself was also in the room at the time. The meeting was a masterpiece of New Order diplomacy. Lisanna's sister came to identify with the New Order and asked her brother why he didn't just follow the Code.
Afterward, for whatever reason, Lisanna latched onto Agent Motoko Nishizawa and designated her as his New Order contact. Lisanna informed Motoko that he was moving out to lowsec and nullsec to explore the game outside of New Order territory. Whenever a highsec carebear decides to expand his horizons, it is a victory for the New Order.
Several months later, Lisanna contacted Motoko out of the blue. Did life in low/null have a salutary effect on the carebear?
The New Order recommends that highsec PvE'ers make their way out of highsec so they can see what the rest of the world has to offer. It's not enough to be physically outside of highsec, though--it's even more important that a carebear abandon the highsec state of mind. Can you imagine how difficult that would be, if our Agents weren't around to keep carebears accountable?
Lisanna struss was the subject of punitive action by our Agents many moons ago. What, you don't remember Lisanna struss?
After Lisanna struss lost his ship, his older sister contacted our Agents for an extended TeamSpeak conference. Lisanna himself was also in the room at the time. The meeting was a masterpiece of New Order diplomacy. Lisanna's sister came to identify with the New Order and asked her brother why he didn't just follow the Code.
Afterward, for whatever reason, Lisanna latched onto Agent Motoko Nishizawa and designated her as his New Order contact. Lisanna informed Motoko that he was moving out to lowsec and nullsec to explore the game outside of New Order territory. Whenever a highsec carebear decides to expand his horizons, it is a victory for the New Order.
Several months later, Lisanna contacted Motoko out of the blue. Did life in low/null have a salutary effect on the carebear?
Lisanna struss > yeah, u dont get it, when u fly with rooks and kings, mine in their space and blow up people like u guys, noobs in null, then and only then can you look down at meThe former highsec carebear took an antagonistic posture right from the start. It seemed his time away from New Order territory hadn't cooled his anger about the Code.
Lisanna struss > also, i dont find it fun fucking with someone and making them quit the game, thats not fun, thats just ruining the game and thats y CODE. can suck a nut
Lisanna struss > ok
Lisanna struss > now i love talking to u guys, hell i'll even help u guys out with resourses from time to time but dont give me the shit u guys give, thats just irritating and upsetting to the spirit of EVELisanna still had an attitude problem. Spending a short time outside of highsec made him arrogant. He felt above the New Order; he lacked the humility that he'd learned at the hands of our gankers. But Agent Motoko wasn't convinced by Lisanna's claims to be a busy, important gate-camper. She was confident that Lisanna would miraculously free up some time to continue the chat, if given a little bait.
Lisanna struss > now feel free to chat with me anytime just dont come in and start talking down to me or my corp, that gets u of the corp shit list and if i find u in null/low it can b an insta pop order
Lisanna struss > now, if you dont mind, i am right now trying to avoid a gate camp in null so this chat is over
Motoko Nishizawa > why all the hostility, you may have left highsec it seems but you didnt leave behind the toxic attitudeAs expected, Lisanna's gate-camping duties suddenly became less pressing. He raged against the New Order with the same kinds of talking points and Miner Bingo squares that we get from highsec miners every day.
Lisanna struss > yeah, u dont get it at all, the code have closed ur eyes and you cant see the truth, thats the only reason that u look down on me and my corp, toxic, bitch please, with out miners, there is no resourses, no resourses, no new ships, no new ships, NO GAME
Lisanna struss > all you guys are doing is trying to control any miners in highsec
Lisanna struss > if anything, thats toxic, granted, i pop afk/bot miners in high, low and null space as if u mine you should stay near the keyboard, that i agree with but everthing else code has done and is doing is wrong
Motoko Nishizawa > we have talked about this before the ore stockpile in this game is ENOURMOUS if half the miners stopped mining tomorrow i doubt we would see a price increast for a year or moreThe veneer began to drop. You can take the carebear out of highsec, but you can't take the highsec out of the carebear--unless they accept the Code, of course.
Lisanna struss > wait hold it
Lisanna struss > okay, i understand u urself have not ganked in months but that dont change the fact that u still look down on what i and others stand for, also thats what alts are for, i run a PVP alt on a second computer while i run this character...
Lisanna struss > on my main pc, allowing me to run 2 things at once and keep not only my corp but its members out of the firing line
Motoko Nishizawa > whats your alts name thenThen came the self-aggrandizement we see so often with carebears: Friends in nullsec, powerful alts, secret missions, etc. Lisanna wasn't reformed at all. He claimed to have a top-secret operative. He wouldn't reveal anything about the spy character; all Motoko needed to know was it was planted somewhere in the Providence region. Why Motoko needed to know this, I'm not sure.
Lisanna struss > spys dont reveal information like that, my alt is a spy damn it so for the missions protection, i will NOT reveal its name
Lisanna struss > all u need to no is that its in providence
Lisanna struss > and sinse i no u wont beleive me i new its safe and the mission will continue as planned
Motoko Nishizawa > lawl provi block you soo hardcoreWhen Motoko scoffed at Providence, Lisanna quickly declassified the fact that the spy was only there temporarily.
Lisanna struss > provi is just a stop while i deal with this character
Lisanna struss > i wont reveal its destination nor its mission so thats the end of that
Motoko Nishizawa > bet you cant even give me a screenie to prove it
Lisanna struss > do u not no the meaning of spyLisanna couldn't believe it when Motoko asked for even more sensitive information about the spy's mission. As for Motoko, she began to suspect the spy's "mission" had something to do with the Sisters of EVE arc.
Lisanna struss > gezz, if i did that, i corp i work for and the mission would be killed off, i like that characters job thanks
Motoko Nishizawa > do you not know how to just take a screenie that wont reveal opsec
Lisanna struss > yeah well, i have been ordered not to even do that
Motoko Nishizawa > you a real james bond huh
Motoko Nishizawa > soo hardcore until you can provide proof of any sort of halfway competent pvp stop trying to bluffLisanna's boasts about her spy alt didn't earn him the respect he'd anticipated. On the plus side, if Motoko didn't believe the spy existed, that would tend to preserve the spy's secrecy. Almost as well as if Lisanna hadn't talked about her spy alt in the first place.
Lisanna struss > no, i just follow orders from my clients
Lisanna struss > otherwise my work is cut and i loose my alt
Lisanna struss > i dont exspect u to beleive me, the less people no about the alt and the more people think it dont exsist the better
Motoko Nishizawa > listen i have seen your verbal prowess and you couldnt spy your way into free cover night at the strip clubNevertheless, Lisanna felt it was time to declassify a bit more information.
Lisanna struss > yeah............. my work tends to be lone work, hense, im good at what i do
Lisanna struss > and in my line of work, i love not talking in local, i dont talk in low or null local for that reason
Lisanna struss > Widow
Lisanna struss > that ship, tech 2 fittings and the best rigs, thats the main ship my alt uses
Lisanna struss > then combat tends to by a group of 30/40 doing a bombers bar style raid on targets before jumping out
Motoko Nishizawa > why did you link the ship info instead of the actual fitAt this point, Lisanna decided he'd revealed enough information about his spy alt for one day. The spy's cover was still mostly intact. Some details had been divulged, yes, but at least the all-important Widow fitting was safe.
Lisanna struss > because im not stupid, each fit is to client spec
Lisanna struss > i can link a ship but the fit is never leaked out, only the ceo, directer and my self no the fit
Motoko Nishizawa > you know widows arent even that great right?
Motoko Nishizawa > so you couldnt possibly have some super secret fit that is soo amazing
Lisanna struss > im aware
The New Order recommends that highsec PvE'ers make their way out of highsec so they can see what the rest of the world has to offer. It's not enough to be physically outside of highsec, though--it's even more important that a carebear abandon the highsec state of mind. Can you imagine how difficult that would be, if our Agents weren't around to keep carebears accountable?
Thursday, June 4, 2015
Highsec Miner Grab Bag #81
No matter where in the world you live, complaining about the government is always a popular thing to do. Even highsec's government--the New Order--takes flak from the citizens it so diligently serves.
Everyone's a critic. And as you ponder Hitomi Nabalia's in-game house fires, I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome you to another edition of the Highsec Miner Grab Bag.
Presumably Koor Vokter is referring to an in-game concept of some sort. Is there a skill that takes six months to train?
I was alarmed when Kishu Tenderpaw reported that an Agent of the New Order hadn't followed proper protocol. Cue the investigation that exonerates the Agent in five seconds...
Yeah, that's was never gonna fly. Sometimes people ask me whether they can buy 10 million isk worth of New Order stock and have that simultaneously count as their 10 million isk mining permit fee. It doesn't work that way--you need to specifically buy a permit. An "extortion tax" would be a separate expense.
Meanwhile, in the Anti-Ganking channel, carebears complain that Agents are too quick to send in frivolous petitions. It really is Bizarro EVE in that place.
Trends come and go. In the past, carebears wished cancer on the family members of our Agents. Now there's a lot of fire-related stuff.
Remember, folks, Jake Lawson Vherokior went on this rant because he watched someone else's Retriever get ganked. Highsec miners can be a bit touchy, I've found.
What if, instead of threatening to cancel their EVE subscriptions, ganked miners cancelled their subscriptions to the games they really play? Then they could pay an appropriate level of attention to EVE.
It was a tale as old as time: Sovea Vyvorant was a brand-new EVE player. Having been ganked by the mean ol' New Order, he was now completely out of cash. If you check his profile, you'll find that Sovea really was new. Have we, at long last, found a genuine newbie who was bankrupted by gankers?
Better luck next time.
"Look bro, I was on the phone, mate." Bro or mate. Choose one.
Now that's more like it. There are still some miners in highsec who care about their fellow corp members.
Everyone's a critic. And as you ponder Hitomi Nabalia's in-game house fires, I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome you to another edition of the Highsec Miner Grab Bag.
Presumably Koor Vokter is referring to an in-game concept of some sort. Is there a skill that takes six months to train?
I was alarmed when Kishu Tenderpaw reported that an Agent of the New Order hadn't followed proper protocol. Cue the investigation that exonerates the Agent in five seconds...
Yeah, that's was never gonna fly. Sometimes people ask me whether they can buy 10 million isk worth of New Order stock and have that simultaneously count as their 10 million isk mining permit fee. It doesn't work that way--you need to specifically buy a permit. An "extortion tax" would be a separate expense.
Meanwhile, in the Anti-Ganking channel, carebears complain that Agents are too quick to send in frivolous petitions. It really is Bizarro EVE in that place.
Trends come and go. In the past, carebears wished cancer on the family members of our Agents. Now there's a lot of fire-related stuff.
Remember, folks, Jake Lawson Vherokior went on this rant because he watched someone else's Retriever get ganked. Highsec miners can be a bit touchy, I've found.
What if, instead of threatening to cancel their EVE subscriptions, ganked miners cancelled their subscriptions to the games they really play? Then they could pay an appropriate level of attention to EVE.
It was a tale as old as time: Sovea Vyvorant was a brand-new EVE player. Having been ganked by the mean ol' New Order, he was now completely out of cash. If you check his profile, you'll find that Sovea really was new. Have we, at long last, found a genuine newbie who was bankrupted by gankers?
Better luck next time.
"Look bro, I was on the phone, mate." Bro or mate. Choose one.
Now that's more like it. There are still some miners in highsec who care about their fellow corp members.
Wednesday, June 3, 2015
Agent Celebrates Two Hundred Mining Permits
The New Order has earned a unique place in video game history. There has never been an entity quite like us. The isk grinding of the carebears is forgotten almost as soon as it happens, but a thousand years from now, people will still be talking about the New Order of Highsec.
In this way, our Agents achieve a kind of immortality. Their accomplishments blaze a trail, providing an example to all who engage in sandbox games.
Consider, for a moment, Agent Liek DarZ. One look at his killboard stats and you know he's an elite PvP'er. You think your pods are safe? They're not.
A second look at his killboard stats, and your respect for the man only grows further. As of this writing: 404 exhumers and 1,030 mining barges terminated. Probably all of them were surprised.
People often ask, "Are mining permits really a thing? Do people actually buy those?" Yes, and yes.
Liek DarZ loves to sell mining permits. He decided to create a photo record of them for posterity.
Our Agent soon realized that he'd sold so many permits that an album of all the photos would be quite difficult to compile. He began taking screenshots of the list of screenshots, instead. Meta-screenshots, if you will.
On and on and on the list goes. This offers a visualization of just some of the permits sold by a single Agent of the New Order.
Liek DarZ snapped a photo each time a miner was rescued. But did all of the miners stay on the straight and narrow, or did some of them stray?
As we tell the carebears, we're not only interested in your 10 million isk. It's your compliance that we're really after. Liek kept a close eye on his flock. Can you believe that some miners forfeited their permits after only 30 minutes? That's like ordering a pizza and throwing it into the garbage before you take a bite. Miners can be so weird.
As recounted in MinerBumping posts such as this one, we occasionally get permit owners who commit treason. On the other hand, we also see hardened rebels who eventually give in and buy a permit. The traitors, then, are simply miners who must buy a permit more than once.
The list of Liek's customers grew. To assist him in keeping a tally, Liek began marking every tenth permit.
At last, Liek DarZ reached a tremendous milestone: 200 permits sold. The two hundredth permit owner, Nova Outburst, apparently couldn't handle the pressures of legacy; it wasn't long before he biomassed himself. No matter, there are always more miners in need of permits.
And so Liek sold 2 billion isk worth of mining permits. It's an impressive number of miners to bring into the fold. Other Agents have roped in their fair share of miners, too. As for me, I kept a careful count at first, but I stopped keeping track long ago--after I sold my 534th mining permit. It is enough to know that thousands of miners throughout highsec have purchased permits. In time, they all will... Unless they biomass first, of course.
In this way, our Agents achieve a kind of immortality. Their accomplishments blaze a trail, providing an example to all who engage in sandbox games.
Consider, for a moment, Agent Liek DarZ. One look at his killboard stats and you know he's an elite PvP'er. You think your pods are safe? They're not.
A second look at his killboard stats, and your respect for the man only grows further. As of this writing: 404 exhumers and 1,030 mining barges terminated. Probably all of them were surprised.
People often ask, "Are mining permits really a thing? Do people actually buy those?" Yes, and yes.
Liek DarZ loves to sell mining permits. He decided to create a photo record of them for posterity.
Our Agent soon realized that he'd sold so many permits that an album of all the photos would be quite difficult to compile. He began taking screenshots of the list of screenshots, instead. Meta-screenshots, if you will.
On and on and on the list goes. This offers a visualization of just some of the permits sold by a single Agent of the New Order.
Liek DarZ snapped a photo each time a miner was rescued. But did all of the miners stay on the straight and narrow, or did some of them stray?
As we tell the carebears, we're not only interested in your 10 million isk. It's your compliance that we're really after. Liek kept a close eye on his flock. Can you believe that some miners forfeited their permits after only 30 minutes? That's like ordering a pizza and throwing it into the garbage before you take a bite. Miners can be so weird.
As recounted in MinerBumping posts such as this one, we occasionally get permit owners who commit treason. On the other hand, we also see hardened rebels who eventually give in and buy a permit. The traitors, then, are simply miners who must buy a permit more than once.
The list of Liek's customers grew. To assist him in keeping a tally, Liek began marking every tenth permit.
At last, Liek DarZ reached a tremendous milestone: 200 permits sold. The two hundredth permit owner, Nova Outburst, apparently couldn't handle the pressures of legacy; it wasn't long before he biomassed himself. No matter, there are always more miners in need of permits.
And so Liek sold 2 billion isk worth of mining permits. It's an impressive number of miners to bring into the fold. Other Agents have roped in their fair share of miners, too. As for me, I kept a careful count at first, but I stopped keeping track long ago--after I sold my 534th mining permit. It is enough to know that thousands of miners throughout highsec have purchased permits. In time, they all will... Unless they biomass first, of course.
Tuesday, June 2, 2015
Open Thread: CODEdot Alliance Logo
The New Order changes lives. Newly rescued carebears wake up each morning and, making their plans for the day, say something like, "Ah, yes! We have the Code now. Splendid!" The purpose of an alliance logo, I think, is to encapsulate that feeling into a single image.
Design of CODEdot's logo has been opened up to the public. Lately, support has been coalescing around this one, created by Agent Gurty Jones:
That's the rust version, which seems to be the most popular at the moment; Gurty has an album of other colors. CCP's art team has preferences for certain color formats, so if they don't like the rust, we can submit others.
This is an open thread for contemplation and comment about the alliance logo. If you have any interest in submitting your own design, now would be the time to get it done. You can read the MinerBumping post about the rules for logos at the link.
Regardless of what the logo turns out to be, it will serve as a beacon across highsec--now and always.
Design of CODEdot's logo has been opened up to the public. Lately, support has been coalescing around this one, created by Agent Gurty Jones:
That's the rust version, which seems to be the most popular at the moment; Gurty has an album of other colors. CCP's art team has preferences for certain color formats, so if they don't like the rust, we can submit others.
This is an open thread for contemplation and comment about the alliance logo. If you have any interest in submitting your own design, now would be the time to get it done. You can read the MinerBumping post about the rules for logos at the link.
Regardless of what the logo turns out to be, it will serve as a beacon across highsec--now and always.
Top Supporters for May 2015
Each month, MinerBumping immortalizes its top isk contributors in a hall of fame post. The "Month's Top Supporters" sidebar will begin showing the current month's supporters in a few days. You can view the August 2012, September, October, November, December, January 2013, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December, January 2014, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December, January 2015, February 2015, March 2015, and April 2015 top 10 lists at the appropriate links.
Here are our top isk contributors for May 2015:
TOP SUPPORTERS
May 2015

#1. Carlvagio
3,150,000,000 isk

#2. Black Pedro
835,000,000 isk

#3. ikryeverytiem
500,000,000 isk

#4. Ariadne Andenare
365,000,000 isk

#5. Annah Tsero
315,000,000 isk

#5. Myevil Gankalt
315,000,000 isk

#7. The Silver Circle II
300,000,000 isk

#8. TenThunders
150,000,000 isk

#9. Malfunctioning NPC
100,000,000 isk

#9. Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
100,000,000 isk
Each solitary isk that you invest in the New Order Treasury yields incalculable dividends. Not money dividends, exactly, but the dividends of peace and happiness that the Code brings to highsec. Talk to anyone who has been ganked by the New Order and they'll confirm the wisdom of your purchase--whether they mean to or not.
Here are our top isk contributors for May 2015:
May 2015

#1. Carlvagio
3,150,000,000 isk

#2. Black Pedro
835,000,000 isk

#3. ikryeverytiem
500,000,000 isk

#4. Ariadne Andenare
365,000,000 isk

#5. Annah Tsero
315,000,000 isk

#5. Myevil Gankalt
315,000,000 isk

#7. The Silver Circle II
300,000,000 isk

#8. TenThunders
150,000,000 isk

#9. Malfunctioning NPC
100,000,000 isk

#9. Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
100,000,000 isk
Each solitary isk that you invest in the New Order Treasury yields incalculable dividends. Not money dividends, exactly, but the dividends of peace and happiness that the Code brings to highsec. Talk to anyone who has been ganked by the New Order and they'll confirm the wisdom of your purchase--whether they mean to or not.
Monday, June 1, 2015
Alliance Executor to the Rescue, Part 3
Previously, on MinerBumping... Agent Mildron Klinker was contacted by the executor of Alwar Alliance, the self-described "Brutor Bulldog", Javen Kai. Infuriated by Mildron's three ganks of Alwar miners, Javen threatened to stop Mildron from ever ganking again.
After careful study, Javen noted that the FanFest slides each had a CCP symbol that was "not negliable". This proved that they were faked. In addition, there were traces of thermite on each of the JPGs.
Several hours later, Mildron reappeared and ganked Jack Sithyrys' Retriever. Alwar Alliance members were still fail-fitting their mining ships. As for the Brutor Bulldog, he was nowhere to be found. As expected, his bark was worse than his bite.
Even so, some members of Alwar Alliance cheered their leader on. He had failed in his mission to stop Mildron's ganks, but by engaging in a convo, he'd proven his mettle.
The Alwar tweeter sent out a link to a propaganda picture. The fight against Mildron Klinker would continue another day!
Javen Kai > do you understand im not going to leave you alone if you keep attacking my guysHaving failed to negotiate safety for his miners, Javen told Mildron that he would follow him around and perma-camp him. No longer would Mildron have free rein to gank as he pleased.
Mildron Klinker > well, either get your guys a permit or teach them how to dock up in time
Javen Kai > no your going to not attack my guys
Mildron Klinker > Well, as an Agent of the New Order of Highsec i need to keep people following the law. So that's not an option as long as they don't have a permitMildron took the threats in stride. All the Agent needed to know was that the Code empowered him to enforce highsec law. Javen's huffing and puffing was wasted breath. The Code would always have the last word.
Javen Kai > your law has no authority in Uphene
Javen Kai > send that back to whoevers dick you suck
Mildron Klinker > The CODE is active in all of Highsec, so yes, also in Uphene,.
Javen Kai > nah
Mildron Klinker > if you want to read more about it, just visit http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.htmlAlthough Javen previously claimed to have never heard of me, he was already well-versed in the Code. He didn't like it much. But, fortunately, the whole "Code" thing was just a temporary nuisance. Someone else would come along and put a stop to it. Any day now.
Javen Kai > ive already read it bro
Javen Kai > its shitty roleplay
Javen Kai > for whatever reason its become cool to gank people
Javen Kai > CODE will not last
Javen Kai > its a stupid fad
Javen Kai > once people get smart and start fucking you guys up
Javen Kai > then you guys wont have so much fun anymore
Mildron Klinker > well, let me tell you one thing... The CODE Always Wins!Like most Agents, Mildron had heard the "someone will stop Code" speech many times. He'd also heard that the Code always wins. Based on his personal experience, Mildron found the latter claim to be the more reliable. Javen suggested Mildron do something that actually mattered in the game. (Perhaps starting a highsec mining corp or designing an ore buyback program?)
Javen Kai > ya thats what every dickhead corps says :P
Javen Kai > until the day when they dont
Javen Kai > i bet your a smart guy too
Javen Kai > you waste your time with code
Javen Kai > do something in the game that actually matters bro
Mildron Klinker > i do, enforcing the CODE is very important...In utter frustration, Javen urged Mildron to voluntarily stop ganking. And, as was inevitable, the Brutor Bulldog found himself drawn to the familiar nonsense about protecting new players.
Javen Kai > trust me.. you guys think that your the ones that have gotten rid of bots
Javen Kai > but your not
Javen Kai > of course you want to believe your actually affecting the game
Javen Kai > we all do
Javen Kai > the only thing you MIGHT actually be doing is pushing newer players from the game
Mildron Klinker > CCP Proves the New Order was right! wrong about that too...Mildron kindly linked Javen to the good news: CCP's study proved that suicide ganking doesn't actually drive new players from the game. In fact, it improves retention rates. Javen couldn't believe it.
Javen Kai > lol
Javen Kai > some shitty propaganda
Javen Kai > oh ya.. proof!!
Mildron Klinker > CCP is lying ?The Alwar Alliance executor was not persuaded by the MinerBumping post, or even by CCP's own presentation at FanFest.
Javen Kai > i think its pretty easy to twist things to make it seem in favor of your beliefs
Javen Kai > totally a fake fanfest slide
Javen Kai > you notice the ccp symbol at the bottom is not negliable?
Javen Kai > kinda funny isnt it?
After careful study, Javen noted that the FanFest slides each had a CCP symbol that was "not negliable". This proved that they were faked. In addition, there were traces of thermite on each of the JPGs.
Mildron Klinker > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5504176#post5504221 CCP Rise wrote that.. so he must be lying...Helpful as always, Mildron linked directly to CCP Rise's post on EVE-O. Now what?
Mildron Klinker > well, as long as you believe a CCP dev is lying i know enough about you...
Javen Kai > i think your lying to yourself man
Mildron Klinker > i just pointed you to facts, where is your prove then ?Protip: It is ill-advised for highsec industrialists to attempt to win arguments against New Order Agents.
Javen Kai > those are not facts
Javen Kai > those are one dev's opinion
Mildron Klinker > so CCP Rise made it all up
Javen Kai > maybe!
Javen Kai > who cares
Mildron Klinker > you have no idea how many new players i have helped alreadyDisgusted, Javen dropped the argument about hurting new players and fake FanFest slides. Judging by his tone, Javen seemed to be losing confidence in his mission to dissuade Mildron from ganking miners.
Javen Kai > what difference does that make?
Javen Kai > you guys do literally nothing to affect anything
Javen Kai > except piss people off
Javen Kai > so your scamming new players
Javen Kai > good job
Javen Kai > you win at eve
Mildron Klinker > not scammed anybody at all, ever,After a long enough time, even the rebels and skeptics come to express a grudging admiration for the New Order and its Code. It's hard to argue with success.
Javen Kai > ive read the "CODE
Javen Kai > pretty clever actually
Javen Kai > saying that people with a permit cant be ganked is the scam
Javen Kai > besides.. charging people for free mining rites is a scam
Javen Kai > wtf is that
Javen Kai > why should someone pay you to mine?With that, Javen terminated the convo. He couldn't talk Mildron out of ganking. Would he be able to make good on his promise to personally camp Mildron in a station and prevent him from ever ganking again?
Javen Kai > you dont cultivate that space
Javen Kai > you just fly around like a bug
Mildron Klinker > as proof that they are willing to follow the CODE, to make Highsec a better place
Javen Kai > wow
Javen Kai > can i ask you
Javen Kai > do you really honestly believe that?
Javen Kai > roleplay aside..
Javen Kai > man to man
Mildron Klinker > absolutely yes
Javen Kai > ok
Several hours later, Mildron reappeared and ganked Jack Sithyrys' Retriever. Alwar Alliance members were still fail-fitting their mining ships. As for the Brutor Bulldog, he was nowhere to be found. As expected, his bark was worse than his bite.
Hope code likes to stay docked. Or use jump clones. Or show us their alts! Maybe all three!!! #alwarwreckingcrew #tweetfleet
— Grima The Mad (@GrimaTheMad) May 30, 2015
Even so, some members of Alwar Alliance cheered their leader on. He had failed in his mission to stop Mildron's ganks, but by engaging in a convo, he'd proven his mettle.
The Alwar tweeter sent out a link to a propaganda picture. The fight against Mildron Klinker would continue another day!
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