Tuesday, December 11, 2012

Reimbursement for Knights of the Order

In my Knights of the Order announcement post, I made a brief comment about my intention to reimburse gankers for their losses with the isk I raised in selling New Order shares. In this post, I'll provide the details on how the reimbursement program will work.

Critics of the New Order have long accused me of running an elaborate scam to bilk our shareholders of their isk. Not so! While most shareholders would describe themselves as having been more than adequately compensated already, I do intend to put the isk to good use.

Originally, I intended to reimburse losses by having people send me links to in-game killmails, which I would manually go through and reimburse by sending isk to each pilot who did damage. However, even in my optimism, I still managed to underestimate the speed with which our army of ganker alts went into action and slaughtered our enemies. (admiral root's tally confirms enemy losses of nearly 40 billion isk already.) Reimbursement cost isn't an issue, but the labor of going through and making multiple payouts per killmail certainly is. So I've decided to simplify things.

The combat log on your character sheet allows you to see your killmails. It also allows you to see your losses, so you can keep track of how many Catalysts you have sacrificed in the name of the New Order. The reimbursement plan is retroactive to December 2nd, when we moved to Kamio.

To request reimbursement, simply send James 315 an EVEmail with "reimbursement" in the subject line. In the body of the mail, state the number of Catalysts you have lost since your last reimbursement. Where possible, specify how many Catalysts were tech II fitted or used named/meta guns (I'll be addressing the subject of named/meta fits in the near future). All other Catalysts will be presumed to have used tech I fits. Links to killmails/lossmails are not necessary.

You can send in reimbursement requests at your convenience. Making requests less frequently makes it easier for me, because I will have fewer EVEmails and fewer payments. I'll attempt to do a run through my reimbursement EVEmails once every few days. Reimbursements will be paid as follows:

Tech I -- 2 million
Named/Meta -- 4 million
Tech II -- 15 million

Reimbursement payments will bring your ganking costs to zero or close enough to zero that the cost is trivial, even if you conduct a very large number of ganks. Now for a few comments about the limitations of this system:

No scamming. The reimbursement program will be done on the honour system. If you're a random reader of this blog and you think you can send in a reimbursement order for a bunch of tech II Catalysts, don't bother. I trust my Agents, though if I get a suspicious order I'll ask for some verification in the form of linked kill/lossmails. Generally, if I'm familiar with your name from seeing you on New Order fleet killmails, I'll trust you. If you're new or operate on a completely different timezone, provide some links of (in-game or API-verified) killmails where you and known Agents are on the same killmail.

Unlike the Goons' old Hulkageddon program, this does not cover everyone who ever shoots a miner anywhere in EVE; it only applies to New Order Agents who kill miners in the name of the Code. (On the other hand, the reimbursements here will be somewhat more generous, since they apply regardless of who got the killing blow and can cover Catalysts lost in failed ganks.)

As a final note, this is an opt-in program, which means you are not required (obviously) to send in reimbursement requests. For example, if you've lost some tech I Catalysts but don't think it's cost you enough isk to bother ordering reimbursement, then don't worry about sending in a request. Likewise, if you are space-rich and would rather spend money from your own wallet, don't feel any pressure to send in reimbursement requests.

The key here is to remove limits on ganking. If your ganking costs would take enough of a chunk out of your wallet to make you "feel" the cost, let us reimburse you. Also, consider this example regarding tech II Catalysts: If your gang is confident of its DPS without your having to go tech II, then use tech I. On the other hand, if you think it would help your gang for you to use a tech II fitting, but you find yourself calculating how much it would cost to do too many tech II ganks--you are "feeling" the cost. That's a case where our reimbursement plan will help.

Ideally, all Knights of the Order should be completely unconcerned about how it will affect their own wallets to go on killing every Code violator they meet. If you get Concorded and immediately return to station to fit out another Catalyst without thinking about it, then things are working as intended.


  1. Attention to Newb Order Supporters, permit owners and share holders. Remove your bumper stickers and renounce your support now for the New New Order is coming and the cleansing of Kamio and Halaima will begin soon. There will be no reprieve to those who support gankers, scammers and extortionists. There is only one way to truly cleanse a system and that is to burn it down and begin again. All those supporting this disease will be destroyed.

    Long Live the New New Order! Long live the Kamio/Halaima accord and code of conduct. Long shall we reign. Resistance is futile!

    1. How is this going to be enforced?

    2. Enforced? You mean you want him to back up his words with action? That would require ::effort::.

    3. Meaning not to be afk in the first place :)

    4. Proof of the New Order of Highsec: Miners bumped, petitions filed (and rejected), permits purchased, wardecs... uh... decked, 40 billion ISK worth of mining ships asploded, and most of all, this blog.

      Proof of the New New Order: Anonymous rantings (again on this blog).

      I think we can safely not worry about this until something, anything actually happens.

    5. The New New Order have started appearing in Kamio ... several Old Newb Order agents have already felt the sting. But more are coming. The revolution as begun.

    6. Poor miners, they talk big but are literally incapable of actually putting in the ~effort~ required to take action. Perpetual victims of their own greed and laziness. That is why the New Order prospers, and why none Code compliant miners wallow in filth and poverty

    7. It looks like I'm going to have to fix my sec status & make a trip to Kamio.

    8. Watch out guys, he might get a bunch of people together for an untanked mining op near a trade hub!

  2. I'm sure what most of us want to know after reading that article is... How did you get killed by a capsule?

    1. Quirk of the killmail. The Mackinaw sent his drones after me before he got popped. Since he was in his pod when I died, the killmail registered his ship as a Capsule instead of a Mackinaw.

  3. James 315, a prince amongst men :)

  4. \o/ May the frozen pod-goo-particles of the non-compliant litter the ice belts, replacing those little specks that float past the screen!
    Glory to the New Order! May the mackinaws shatter like the hopes of the rebels!

    -Galaxy Pig

  5. The New Order Customer Satisfaction Survey is now live, agents & knights of the New Order, please feel free to direct bumped and ganked unbelievers to

    http://tiny.cc/kyc6ow (really really long URL so it's been shrunk)

  6. James, I am a humble early investor. I put in 10m ISK, back when everyone thought the New Order was merely a bunch of entertaining :words:.
    Now I have joined the Knights. My baptism by CONCORD just took place. We killed the rebel's pod. It contained over 3bn ISK in implants.
    I believe that my joining of the Knights of the New Order has been ordained by a higher order!

  7. Awwwww, did someone pop your precious ship?

    Oh, and do use proper English. "Your" in this context should be spelt "you're", as you're trying to contract "you are". "Your" is the possessive.

    Back to school with you, child.

  8. Sounds like anon is mad. Rebuke your evil bot-ways, sinner, and bask in the light that is the New Order.


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